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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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47 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Manning has arguably been one of our better players this season.

Sadly that says more about the rest of the squad than it does about him. He's still a massive liability defensively.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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8 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Sadly that says more about the rest of the squad than it does about him. He's still a massive liability defensively.

Leicester away in the Championship was an absolute horror show for him. I'd keep him as back up but no way would I rely on him to start every week. 

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stknowle

stknowle

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1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Manning might be able to get forward, although typically he doesn’t because he’s programmed to stop and pass backwards. Not only that he’s so slow getting back that the defence is severely compromised as a result. When he does manage to get back invariably he stands off his man allowing a cross. He’s nowhere near the quality required and not a patch on Welington.

Manning’s not fit to lace Welington’s boots.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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30 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Leicester away in the Championship was an absolute horror show for him. I'd keep him as back up but no way would I rely on him to start every week. 

Birmingham away he wasn’t any better defensively either. I didn’t expect him to be brilliant defensively from the reports at Swansea but I did expect him to be a lot better going forward with assists, and the odd goal here and there going by reputation. 

Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Birmingham away he wasn’t any better defensively either. I didn’t expect him to be brilliant defensively from the reports at Swansea but I did expect him to be a lot better going forward with assists, and the odd goal here and there going by reputation. 

Likewise. he's pretty limited going both ways.

BarberSaint

BarberSaint

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4 hours ago, Nolan said:

Put it this way, there could be an argument that Southampton spot talent,  but too early.

Look at Alcaraz and Danso who remain in the Premier League while we don't. 

Now with a good club model we both open pathways for players who might not get pathways to English, or place on loan players who may be attracted by Southampton but not necessarily Göztepe or Valenciennes. 

Imagine the Bristol youth model, but now stationed in France and Turkey, and getting players from world wide. 

It could go spectacularly wrong, or spectacularly right, but the bigger pool of players we can fish in, the better

 

Isn't that that lot down the road?

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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6 hours ago, SherborneSaint said:

https://www.attackingfootball.com/southamptons-summer-rebuild-20-signings/

 

I’ve no idea who this journalist is, or how realistic the estimated prices are. But, some of the analysis here felt realistic. There might be some potential signings here, or perhaps not…

Nice link - analysis reasonable and I prefer Alex’s take on the incoming players (whoever Alex is?).

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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If a player doing well at Goztepe (Romulo) is considered unrealistic for us then you have to seriously question what it is we're getting out of the partnership. Surely them getting cheap loans from us is contingent on any successful players for them signing for us before going elsewhere.

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Nolan

Nolan

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4 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

If a player doing well at Goztepe (Romulo) is considered unrealistic for us then you have to seriously question what it is we're getting out of the partnership. Surely them getting cheap loans from us is contingent on any successful players for them signing for us before going elsewhere.

Romulo was a direct loan for Göztepe. They chose to fully buy him in January 25 and he has a contract until June 28.

I would be surprised if he's sold at all this summer as Göztepe want to build a team around him. 

And any signing being contingent on coming to us would severely restrict Göztepe's draw.

If they did sell him  to Fulham or Anderlecht or else where, they would further cement themselves as a good option in the Turkish Lig. Ultimately benefiting the entire Sporting Group.

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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3 hours ago, Nolan said:

Romulo was a direct loan for Göztepe. They chose to fully buy him in January 25 and he has a contract until June 28.

I would be surprised if he's sold at all this summer as Göztepe want to build a team around him. 

And any signing being contingent on coming to us would severely restrict Göztepe's draw.

If they did sell him  to Fulham or Anderlecht or else where, they would further cement themselves as a good option in the Turkish Lig. Ultimately benefiting the entire Sporting Group.

I think we all understand the financial benefits the group may derive from the arrangements. Saints supporters however will rightly question the bias in benefit from a player movement perspective - i.e. there appears to be little or none in the direction of Saints. And given that it would appear the club is being used as some kind of administrative front for player trading, how much focus is taken away from the business of improving our club in all aspects? Has recruitment lost its way because general competence has been reduced to a ‘Group average’ and way below that required to sustain a club such as Saints operating at the very top of the profession? And is all of this indicative of the reason we’ve seen such decline since SR took over?

Nolan

Nolan

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For F*cks sake, how many times do we have to point out the same thing.

yes recruitment lost its way thats why there been all the changes in the last 6 months. For some reason some people continue to ignore what is happening behind the scenes.

15th February 2025: Johannes Spors starts work at Southampton.

May 2025: Eliott Stapley and Nikola Laden joined as asst to Spors and head of international Scouting. Tim Lederer coming in to scouting team too.

Recruitment lost its way because we we didnt have the right set-up in place. how about we give the new set-up at least a window and see how its going?

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Saint86

Saint86

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16 minutes ago, Nolan said:

For F*cks sake, how many times do we have to point out the same thing.

yes recruitment lost its way thats why there been all the changes in the last 6 months. For some reason some people continue to ignore what is happening behind the scenes.

15th February 2025: Johannes Spors starts work at Southampton.

May 2025: Eliott Stapley and Nikola Laden joined as asst to Spors and head of international Scouting. Tim Lederer coming in to scouting team too.

Recruitment lost its way because we we didnt have the right set-up in place. how about we give the new set-up at least a window and see how its going?

Agree, but i think the vast majority of people are well aware of this, are pleased that we've got Spors in trying to rebuild the recruitment back to something resembling what we had previously (and after wreck it Rasmus and co dismantled it), and are pleased with the early signs (Will Still, finally singing a pacey and powerful CB, noises from fernandes and negotiating stance re Dibling) - there isn't much to fault Spors' new era on so far?

Nolan

Nolan

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7 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Agree, but i think the vast majority of people are well aware of this, are pleased that we've got Spors in trying to rebuild the recruitment back to something resembling what we had previously (and after wreck it Rasmus and co dismantled it), and are pleased with the early signs (Will Still, finally singing a pacey and powerful CB, noises from fernandes and negotiating stance re Dibling) - there isn't much to fault Spors' new era on so far?

yep and the minority who seem to live in a vacuum will click the "haha" button on the post.... 

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Turkish

Turkish

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54 minutes ago, Nolan said:

For F*cks sake, how many times do we have to point out the same thing.

yes recruitment lost its way thats why there been all the changes in the last 6 months. For some reason some people continue to ignore what is happening behind the scenes.

15th February 2025: Johannes Spors starts work at Southampton.

May 2025: Eliott Stapley and Nikola Laden joined as asst to Spors and head of international Scouting. Tim Lederer coming in to scouting team too.

Recruitment lost its way because we we didnt have the right set-up in place. how about we give the new set-up at least a window and see how its going?

Dont you think it's absolutely incredible and gross incompetence that we went into a premier league season without the correct recruitment set up in place?

I know there is this current mantra of give them a chance and to a point i agree but the fact of the matter is how on earth did we get into this situation in the first place? 

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Nolan

Nolan

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8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Dont you think it's absolutely incredible and gross incompetence that we went into a premier league season without the correct recruitment set up in place?

I know there is this current mantra of give them a chance and to a point i agree but the fact of the matter is how on earth did we get into this situation in the first place? 

Yes I think it was gross incompetence. That is why I'm happy that Kraft resigned from Sport Republic UK Ltd and that Dragan Solak put himself in as Chair of the Club, limiting Ankerson's role. (he's obviously not going to be able to usurp the money man, and there are more directors directly informing Solak)

People with money, like Solak, don't accumulate their wealth down to luck. I'm willing to give the restructure that only started AFTER the Winter transfer window a go.
  

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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Wonder if Still will bring Ryan from Lens with him, with Ramsdale certain to go and Baz not upto the job, Ryan would be a decent keeper at this level to bring in for free.

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Verbal

Verbal

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1 hour ago, Nolan said:

yep and the minority who seem to live in a vacuum will click the "haha" button on the post.... 

Quite right. And anyone who reacts to having no air by clicking the haha button deserves their fate.

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saintant

saintant

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1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Wonder if Still will bring Ryan from Lens with him, with Ramsdale certain to go and Baz not upto the job, Ryan would be a decent keeper at this level to bring in for free.

Not a bad shout.

Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Dont you think it's absolutely incredible and gross incompetence that we went into a premier league season without the correct recruitment set up in place?

I know there is this current mantra of give them a chance and to a point i agree but the fact of the matter is how on earth did we get into this situation in the first place? 

Greatest era of our lives.

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m4

m4

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Russ to Rangers then, hopefully takes cement feet joe with him!

(also wonder if fraser fanices a trip back to his homeland)

Nolan

Nolan

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21 minutes ago, Danbert said:

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-consider-signing-colo-colo-forward-plan-to-loan-him-out/

So the plan (allegedly) is to buy the player who has replaced Bereton Dias at international level and loan him to Goztepe 

Moving him up from a tier 5 league to a tier 2 league to see how he goes. Minimal outlay for Saints, and could cement him in the Chilean team to ensure Work Permit requirements are met (current poistion in the national set-up with 5 internationals under his belt already helps his case)

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Badger

Badger

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7 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I think we all understand the financial benefits the group may derive from the arrangements. Saints supporters however will rightly question the bias in benefit from a player movement perspective - i.e. there appears to be little or none in the direction of Saints. 

Its probably easy to sell the idea of playing at Goztepe to players seeing it as a stepping stone to Saints than bringing them the other way.

Romulo is a good example. He’s done well at Goztepe and if given the option of coming to Saints (in the Championship don’t forget) or other  options, say Feyenoord, or a Spanish club with prospect of European competition, staying in the SR group doesn’t seem attractive. 
 

Despite the tie up within the group, the players aren’t commodities to be moved around, we’d still have to overcome the human factor of players choice, and their bastard agents. 

 

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Badger

Badger

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13 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Moving him up from a tier 5 league to a tier 2 league to see how he goes. Minimal outlay for Saints, and could cement him in the Chilean team to ensure Work Permit requirements are met (current poistion in the national set-up with 5 internationals under his belt already helps his case)

Article says he’s 23. Not a youngster as they call him.

Wonder if it is to see how he does, or to improve Work Permit chances. 

Turkish

Turkish

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1 hour ago, m4 said:

Russ to Rangers then, hopefully takes cement feet joe with him!

(also wonder if fraser fanices a trip back to his homeland)

we all know how this pans out, With the biggest budget in the league aside from Celtic, he'll implement his philosophy up there being able to buy the best players in the Scottish league where he will have some success and be hailed as one of the best young coaches around. 2 or so years time some hipster premier league chairman buys the hype, appoints him and in a stronger league with lesser players he'll be exposed again.

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Göztepe

Göztepe

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3 hours ago, Danbert said:

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-consider-signing-colo-colo-forward-plan-to-loan-him-out/

So the plan (allegedly) is to buy the player who has replaced Bereton Dias at international level and loan him to Goztepe 

The newspaper that published the news is a newspaper that makes fake news, do not believe the news from the Turkish national media, only believe the special news of the Twitter accounts with many followers, they are usually true. By the way, if it were me, I would take Matej Kovar from Bayer Leverkusen as a goalkeeper, after Flekken transferred to Leverkusen, he performed well in the European league last year.

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sockeye

sockeye

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Still struggling to see any real successes for Southampton FC of this multi-club model that is entering its fourth year now.

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saintant

saintant

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2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

If we look at will still players what about el Aynaoui? 23 year old Central midfielder who can also play dm. Looks like he got 8 goals last year. Maybe a bit beyond our reach. 

Good shout.

Badger

Badger

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6 hours ago, Göztepe said:

By the way, if it were me, I would take Matej Kovar from Bayer Leverkusen as a goalkeeper, after Flekken transferred to Leverkusen, he performed well in the European league last year.

Seems a bit of a come down to leave a Champions League club for us at the moment.  Even if he’s out of contract (no idea if he his). 

Nolan

Nolan

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19 minutes ago, Stu Man Do said:

Would be a bit disappointing if true, seemingly more evidence of Goztepe getting the best out of our current set up.

 

https://sportwitness.co.uk/player-could-leave-just-after-signing-for-southampton-arrived-on-friday-exit-possible/

They said exactly the same after Kayi Sanda joined in January. Lazy journalism in close season. 

The players that Southampton bought and put on loan last season were pictured in Göztepe strips and wore civvies in the Saints website pics.

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SaintJackoInHurworth

SaintJackoInHurworth

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On 02/06/2025 at 17:43, SherborneSaint said:

https://www.attackingfootball.com/southamptons-summer-rebuild-20-signings/

 

I’ve no idea who this journalist is, or how realistic the estimated prices are. But, some of the analysis here felt realistic. There might be some potential signings here, or perhaps not…

Like others I feel the analysis in this seems pretty insightful and it will be interesting to see if we are linked with any of the players mentioned. Johnstone, for example, sounds like a good possibility in goal.

Having said that, however, I would be surprised if as many players as they are suggesting actually leave or are sold. In effect they are suggesting that all of the following will leave:

GK: Ramsdale, Bazunu, Wright

Defenders: KWP, Sugawara, THB, Bednarek, Stephens, ABK, Taylor, Larios, Lawrence

Midfielders: Aribo, Fernandes, Brereton-Diaz, Lallana, 

Forwards: Sulemana, Dibling, Robinson, Onuachu, Ballard

While I can see a lot of those being sold and others being loaned out, I would be surprised if all of those were to be out of the building by the end of the transfer window!

In particular, I would be happily surprised if Stephens were to leave! But who knows?! 

If we did shift that many players and those ones in particular, I would guess we might bring in up to £150m for that lot (some bringing in significantly more than others!).

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Willo of Whiteley

Willo of Whiteley

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Happy for all but three of the squad to be sold (Ramsdale, Fernandes & Dibling) but know full well at least one of them will be going.

Would like to see us linked with the following:
- GK: Carl Rushworth (Brighton), Freddie Woodman (Preston, Viktor Johansson (Stoke)

- DEF: Max Aarons (Bournemouth), Ashley Phillips (Spurs), Bed Godfrey (Atalanta), 

- MID: Jeusren Rak-Sakyi (Crystal Palace), Lennon Miller (Motherwell), Jonathan Rowe (Norwich), Borja Sainz (Norwich)

- ST: Evan Ferguson (Brighton), Jack Sargeant (Norwich)

I am by no means saying we’re going to get these players but there is a blend of experience and youth in there.

I think we should be looking at British players based abroad too, there is a wealth of players overseas at the moment that I think would be tempted by a return to the UK and could do a job for us: Demari Gray (Saudi Pro League), Josh Doig (Serie A), Charlie Cresswell (Ligue 1) etc

goodymatt

goodymatt

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Do we think Archer is going to be our main goal threat next season? Will he even stay? I think he would do well at Championship level as previous Boro loan suggests and also Will Still’s attacking at pace will give him much more opportunities to shoot.

On the flip side he was largely invisible at PL level, but was that due to the quality of the rest of our players and the slow build up style?

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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12 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Do we think Archer is going to be our main goal threat next season? Will he even stay? I think he would do well at Championship level as previous Boro loan suggests and also Will Still’s attacking at pace will give him much more opportunities to shoot.

On the flip side he was largely invisible at PL level, but was that due to the quality of the rest of our players and the slow build up style?

That had a lot to do with it.

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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21 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

I think he would do well at Championship level as previous Boro loan suggests and also Will Still’s attacking at pace will give him much more opportunities to shoot.

18 goals in 40 games for mid-table clubs in the Championship suggests he can do a good job for us.

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UpweySaint

UpweySaint

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29 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

18 goals in 40 games for mid-table clubs in the Championship suggests he can do a good job for us.

He looks like an accomplished finisher - if the system suits him I think he could do well for us next season. I’m convinced there is a player in there (disclaimer - I thought Cedric was going to be top drawer and after seeing BBD against Lazio I thought we had done fantastic business!) 🤦‍♂️

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