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Verbal

Verbal

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2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I didn't say the goals were not his fault, I said they were not "solely his fault". Key difference!

Sorry, what are you arguing about?

Danbert

Danbert

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4 hours ago, Chez said:

Likewise.
You are probably a good man to ask for the best (valuable)/biggest named players to stay with a relegated club?  Sander Berge, KWP in recent times. Going back there was Barton/Kevin Nolan/Alan Smith at Newcastle, and further back Michael Carrick/Defoe (for half a season). Not too many player 'easily good enough for the Prem' seem to stick around.

Steve Bull?

sockeye

sockeye

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9 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Evan Ferguson please, loan with obligation if promoted 😃

He was loaned to a Premier League team in West Ham last year, what makes you think Brighton would 1) loan him to a weaker league 2) just give him away if we got promoted? He's a pretty hot prospect still at age 20.

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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4 hours ago, sockeye said:

He was loaned to a Premier League team in West Ham last year, what makes you think Brighton would 1) loan him to a weaker league 2) just give him away if we got promoted? He's a pretty hot prospect still at age 20.

Because goal scoring becomes a habit and banging in 25 next season in the Championship may be better for him than getting 4 or 5 at a lower Prem team. 

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Just read that we rejected a £19million bid for THB from Porto, guessing the only reason we're turning that down is because City will get a large percentage of it? 

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chiknsmack

chiknsmack

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36 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Just read that we rejected a £19million bid for THB from Porto, guessing the only reason we're turning that down is because City will get a large percentage of it? 

Also the fact that we want to keep him and have him be our captain in the Prem for the next decade.

benjii

benjii

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1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Just read that we rejected a £19million bid for THB from Porto, guessing the only reason we're turning that down is because City will get a large percentage of it? 

Or we don't want to sell him.

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benjii

benjii

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9 hours ago, bangkoksaint said:

TBF his trial is unlikely to be before next August so we could get a season out of him!

One year deal, option to extend if not a rapist.

Win/win.

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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4 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Just read that we rejected a £19million bid for THB from Porto, guessing the only reason we're turning that down is because City will get a large percentage of it? 

 

3 hours ago, chiknsmack said:

Also the fact that we want to keep him and have him be our captain in the Prem for the next decade.

 

2 hours ago, benjii said:

Or we don't want to sell him.

Or that is less than we paid for him a year ago and he's on a decent contract.

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lambtiss

lambtiss

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4 hours ago, chiknsmack said:

Also the fact that we want to keep him and have him be our captain in the Prem for the next decade.

I know he is still young, but I  thought THB was a disappointment in the Premiership last year and was a significant part of one of the worst defences ever to "grace" the Premiership. 

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Chez

Chez

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5 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Just read that we rejected a £19million bid for THB from Porto, guessing the only reason we're turning that down is because City will get a large percentage of it? 

they'll only get a percentage of any profit. 

benjii

benjii

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1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

 

 

Or that is less than we paid for him a year ago and he's on a decent contract.

Yeah, and that. 

benjii

benjii

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1 hour ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Porto never bid for THB. The rumour was quashed.

Fucks sake, we've only just signed Quashed.

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Chez

Chez

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"There doesn't need to be a massive overhaul, but there will be addition of quality where it's needed"

I wonder if Quashie and Downs are the quality where it is needed or that might be some loans closer to deadline day?

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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3 minutes ago, Chez said:

"There doesn't need to be a massive overhaul, but there will be addition of quality where it's needed"

I wonder if Quashie and Downs are the quality where it is needed or that might be some loans closer to deadline day?

Who are you quoting?

Chez

Chez

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9 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Who are you quoting?

Sorry, it's Will Still, in the Daily Echo interview.

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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15 minutes ago, Chez said:

"There doesn't need to be a massive overhaul, but there will be addition of quality where it's needed"

I wonder if Quashie and Downs are the quality where it is needed or that might be some loans closer to deadline day?

That could also mean they are hopeful of keeping our best players?

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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8 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

That could also mean they are hopeful of keeping our best players?

Got to be a hint towards that.

sure, a couple are going to go, but no need to sell all of ramsdale, Dibbling, Fernandes, THB, Downes 

Fernandes is the one. If we can somehow keep him, that would be impressive 

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Chez

Chez

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9 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

That could also mean they are hopeful of keeping our best players?

sure, could be. My point, or question was more along the lines of how Still sees the two players we have/are signing - are they the missing quality and thus better than what we have or is that quality coming later in the form of PL loans. I didn't see Quarshie as a starter, but maybe I have underestimated how good he is?

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

No idea how you come to that conclusion on the back of that statement, but sure. My point, or question was more along the lines of how Still sees the two players we have/are signing - are they the missing quality and thus better than what we have or is that quality coming later in the form of PL loans. I didn't see Quarshie as a starter, but maybe I have underestimated how good he is?

Bednarek, THB, Stephens, ABK all ahead of Quarshie at moment although can see 2 of those going. We also have Bree, Taylor and Shea have all played centre back for us. Think he is more longer term.

Chez

Chez

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32 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Bednarek, THB, Stephens, ABK all ahead of Quarshie at moment although can see 2 of those going. We also have Bree, Taylor and Shea have all played centre back for us. Think he is more longer term.

Agreed, so the statement "add quality where it is needed" doesn't seem to align. 

I guess they are just words. "by and large the squad is fine, we'll just strengthen it in a few places" is standard stuff. He's not going to say it needs a total overhaul. Doesn't mean a lot of players might depart and many come in. 

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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5 minutes ago, Chez said:

Agreed, so the statement "add quality where it is needed" doesn't seem to align. 

I guess they are just words. "by and large the squad is fine, we'll just strengthen it in a few places" is standard stuff. He's not going to say it needs a total overhaul. Doesn't mean a lot of players might depart and many come in. 

I keep being asked how we will do this season- I honestly have no idea and until the window closes and see our squad I can’t say.

The stench of last season will still hang and Still is saying right things but talk is cheap getting us playing won’t be easy.

We can’t lose Ramsdale, Fernandez or anyone of quality last day of window either.

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Chez

Chez

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1 minute ago, Give it to Ron said:

 

We can’t lose Ramsdale, Fernandez or anyone of quality last day of window either.

They are going to be big money sales and that probably means they won't happen out of the blue. Proper medicals etc. which should give us time to make our own replacement signings. I know we have the final decision, but we can't keep these players here when they get PL offers (obviously if the transfer fee is right) and It's out of our hands when clubs make the offer.

gio1saints

gio1saints

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1 hour ago, Chez said:

"There doesn't need to be a massive overhaul, but there will be addition of quality where it's needed"

I wonder if Quashie and Downs are the quality where it is needed or that might be some loans closer to deadline day?

That quote is straight from “The Managers handy guide to answering reporters questions”.

There are 3 possible answers to the reporters question “ are you going to overhaul the squad ” 

1. Yes. ( Unspoken - I’ve already seen some of the players are weak) 


2. No ( Unspoken - I’ve already seen some of the players are weak but I don’t want to undermine morale early doors - or let them know I’m ditching them until I’ve got someone else lined up) or

3 “There does not need to be a massive overhaul “ etc - this is essentially the same as (1) but put more diplomatically. 

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Patches O Houlihan

Patches O Houlihan

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2 hours ago, Chez said:

"There doesn't need to be a massive overhaul, but there will be addition of quality where it's needed"

I wonder if Quashie and Downs are the quality where it is needed or that might be some loans closer to deadline day?

Here's a thought. When we played under Ralph we were pressing high. There were loads of occasions when opposition attackers would break clear and be 2 on 2 with our central defenders. In those situations we really struggled; but we did notice a benefit in having big/quick CBs - ie when ABK or Salisu had one of their occasional good games.

We know that Bednarek and Stephens look like a fish up a tree in those circumstances, and that THB is not quick, and not a standout performer in those situations either. Ronny Edwards is also not tall or quick. Have we bought a CB equivalent of Kyle Walker - a player who's physical abilities enable him to get himself and the team out of a jam when it all goes tits up?

"Standing at 6ft 5in tall and boasting explosive pace, Quarshie was statistically the fastest player in 2. Bundesliga this season with a top speed of 37.04 km/h." SFC

Will Still & Johnanes Spors are both fans of the high pressing 'Ralph' style

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bugenhagen

bugenhagen

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2 hours ago, Chez said:

sure, could be. My point, or question was more along the lines of how Still sees the two players we have/are signing - are they the missing quality and thus better than what we have or is that quality coming later in the form of PL loans. I didn't see Quarshie as a starter, but maybe I have underestimated how good he is?

I can’t speak for Will 😉 but I take it as those two are more types of players with attributes we are lacking, and that a bit of quality is coming later depending on what becomes available. 

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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1 hour ago, Chez said:

Agreed, so the statement "add quality where it is needed" doesn't seem to align. 

I guess they are just words. "by and large the squad is fine, we'll just strengthen it in a few places" is standard stuff. He's not going to say it needs a total overhaul. Doesn't mean a lot of players might depart and many come in. 

He can't really say anything else really, you have to keep your cards close to your chest. There are still so many unknowns.

I think the ideal is that we trim the squad down, get rid of the bloat (which we're doing), raise some funds, and integrate some missing attributes in areas we don't have them (i.e pace and power up front and at the back and through the middle).

If we start losing players like Fernandes, THB, Dibling, Suguwara, Ramsdale, Armstrong etc as the window goes on, then yes, we'll be adding players to replace those. But ideally we won't lose those, we'll add little bits of of pace and power around them, and get rid of the bloat.

That is the absolute ideal though, and I think we all know it won't pan out like that. We'll probably be looking for replacements for at least 2 of our 'sought' after players at some point.

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Dusic

Dusic

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2 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Bednarek, THB, Stephens, ABK all ahead of Quarshie at moment although can see 2 of those going. We also have Bree, Taylor and Shea have all played centre back for us. Think he is more longer term.

You have mentioned 7 players there but once you take out those who are certain to leave and not even with the squad (ABK), those likely to leave (Bednarek, THB) and those who aren't really centre backs then only Stephens is likely "ahead" of Quarshie just now.

I would think our CB pool come Sept will be something like Stephens, Wood, Quarshie and Edwards (unless he is deemed not physical enough and is sold) with either Kayi-Sanda if he isnt loaned out or Bree as a emergency option in a 3CB setup.

Then its up to those guys to show who deserves to play - but I am certain Quarshie is seen as a real contender to start games.

Toussaint

Toussaint

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3 hours ago, Chez said:

sure, could be. My point, or question was more along the lines of how Still sees the two players we have/are signing - are they the missing quality and thus better than what we have or is that quality coming later in the form of PL loans. I didn't see Quarshie as a starter, but maybe I have underestimated how good he is?

I came to that conclusion on the basis that if two previously unheard of and unproven players are all that were required we must be keeping most of our best players, otherwise it doesn’t make any sense. If we do sell our better players then a massive overhaul will be required. 

Dusic

Dusic

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11 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I came to that conclusion on the basis that if two previously unheard of and unproven players are all that were required we must be keeping most of our best players, otherwise it doesn’t make any sense. If we do sell our better players then a massive overhaul will be required. 

We haven't even played the first pre season game yet and there is almost two months left of the transfer window.

Clearly we will bring in more players and clearly at least some of our best players will leave (the club might not know which yet) - there is loads of time for this to happen.

Absolutely no sign that Quarshie and Downs are seen as "all that were required" nor that "we must be keeping most of our best players". 

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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13 minutes ago, Dusic said:

We haven't even played the first pre season game yet and there is almost two months left of the transfer window.

Clearly we will bring in more players and clearly at least some of our best players will leave (the club might not know which yet) - there is loads of time for this to happen so absolutely no sign that Quarshie and Downs are seen as "all that were required" nor that "we must be keeping most of our best players". 

I was responding to Stills quote. 

Dusic

Dusic

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11 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I was responding to Stills quote. 

Your response doesn't make sense. Still is talking about the window knowing that it doesn't close until September, not that we only needed to add Quarshie (and Downs).

Pretty obvious some of our better players will go and when they do some of them will be replaced by more incomings.

39 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I came to that conclusion on the basis that if two previously unheard of and unproven players are all that were required we must be keeping most of our best players, otherwise it doesn’t make any sense. If we do sell our better players then a massive overhaul will be required. 

 

IFHP

IFHP

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54 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Do you think the squad is better or worse than our last Championship squad?

Worse. No Walker Peters , Adams and for half the season Brooks . 
 

Fernandes is would without doubt walk into our last championship team though . 

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