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CB Fry

CB Fry

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2 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Does it not put you off that because oh his pedigree Munich etc it makes him a fashionable appointment with much higher chances of getting poached like what happened with maresca.. 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

Just a reminder that "what happened with Maresca" is Leicester won the league.

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coalman

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8 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Does it not put you off that because oh his pedigree Munich etc it makes him a fashionable appointment with much higher chances of getting poached like what happened with maresca.. 

Plenty of managers could do a good job here at championship level so wouldn’t it make more sense to get one that might actually grow with us and not just use as a stepping stone ? I don’t see that happening at all with rohl 

Would you rather have Pochettino or Koeman? Or Jones, Martin, Juric or Selles?

Much as it breaks my heart when our manager gets poached at least they've done something worthy of getting poached.

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pimpin4rizeal

pimpin4rizeal

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7 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Do you realise how utterly daft you sound warning against appointing someone in case they are too good?

Let me make it clear let’s say we could appoint ‘A -rohl B cooper C Adkin’s and just for the sake of my argument whoever we chose did equally well . The chances of Adkin’s sticking around are a mile higher right?  ..and cooper also a lot more likely then rohl .. not sure why this is so hard to understand ?

I’m only throwing those names in for the sake of the point before people start about Adkin’s .  Someone like cooper could easily do as good as rohl and not get poached as fast which is better for us no?

it’s not as black and white as we must appoint a fashionable manager or we do crap 

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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Let me make it clear let’s say we could appoint ‘A -rohl B cooper C Adkin’s and just for the sake of my argument whoever we chose did equally well . The chances of Adkin’s sticking around are a mile higher right?  ..and cooper also a lot more likely then rohl .. not sure why this is so hard to understand ?

I’m only throwing those names in for the sake of the point before people start about Adkin’s .  Someone like cooper could easily do as good as rohl and not get poached as fast which is better for us no?

it’s not as black and white as we must appoint a fashionable manager or we do crap 

It’s also not as black and white as three managers will do exactly the same job.

Here’s the crux of it: The overwhelming majority of mangers will either be sacked or poached. So with that in mind which one would you like our next manger to end up being…?

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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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1 hour ago, DT said:

Wonder if they are waiting until the end of the playoffs as Lampard is probably a contender if Cov go out. 

I think they are waiting for our season to end more than anything. 

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coalman

coalman

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1 hour ago, DT said:

Wonder if they are waiting until the end of the playoffs as Lampard is probably a contender if Cov go out. 

Call me crazy but shouldn't any sane manager recruitment strategy involve not hiring Lampard?

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miserableoldgit

miserableoldgit

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1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Is the focus is on Lens? then they have their final game at the weekend.

Picture might be clearer then.

Yes.....we will see what develops......nothing negative I hope.....

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Appy

Appy

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1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Is the focus is on Lens? then they have their final game at the weekend.

Picture might be clearer then.

Wonder when we’ll contact Lens 

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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3 hours ago, DT said:

Wonder if they are waiting until the end of the playoffs as Lampard is probably a contender if Cov go out. 

Would be pretty shabby of Lampard to walk out on Coventry after 5 minutes.

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Kenilworthy59

Kenilworthy59

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23 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Would be pretty shabby of Lampard to walk out on Coventry after 5 minutes.

yes. If the focus is on building for the feature it is nonsense to appoint someone who will walk out as soon as the next better offer comes along

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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3 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

I think they are waiting for our season to end more than anything. 

To do what, make an announcement? Presumably the recruitment process itself is well advanced at this stage?

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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4 hours ago, DT said:

Wonder if they are waiting until the end of the playoffs as Lampard is probably a contender if Cov go out. 

I cant really see Lampard even wanting to come here given he's reminded every visit he's made that his Uncle 'arry is a C**t.......

Unless he agrees of course ! 

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Forester

Forester

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21 hours ago, Dman said:

Rohl is my top choice - has been since January. I think he'll go really far in the game, however, Sheff Weds end of season form & him throwing his toys out of the pram leading to nothing short of unporofessional performances has put a huge concern in my mind. 

I think Rohl has some questionable loyalty morals. So If he comes and does well, as soon as a bigger side show interest, he'll be off. I also suspect he's probably holding off to see if something a bit bigger and better comes up. 

But you know what, I'm okay with that. I'd rather someone those better than us want in charge than someone noone wants. Alas, Jones, Selles, Martin & Juric.

Still is a bit more of a gamble, but I wouldn't be against it. 

The summer is going to be huge for us - both players in and out. We need to get the new man in by the start of June latest to give them a summer and pre-season to give us the best chance of sucess. If Rohl wants to wait, we need to move on. 

Refreshingly balanced view

gecko

gecko

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10 hours ago, coalman said:

Would you rather have Pochettino or Koeman? Or Jones, Martin, Juric or Selles?

Much as it breaks my heart when our manager gets poached at least they've done something worthy of getting poached.

Totally agree. Interesting that people have generally come to the realisation that players like Mane/Van Dijk (and soon to be Dibling/Fernandes) are basically too good for us to keep long term. And we seem to appreciate that the longer term situation with players is that we simply need to be successful in replacing those that we lose to the higher-ups. It's whats Brighton, Brentford, B'Mouth etc have done well at in recent seasons.

Now counter that with how quite a few people seem to be talking about hiring an excellent manager, that we'll probably lose in the near future; kinda weird isn't it.

Same thing applies here imo, managers need replacing and replacing well, just like players. And that means pre-emptive scouting so we're not completely sunk/scrambling when the inevitable happens.

Turkish

Turkish

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24 minutes ago, Football Special said:

To be fair our recruitment has been like the blind leading the blind 

very short sighted when hiring managers too

OldNick

OldNick

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3 hours ago, Kenilworthy59 said:

yes. If the focus is on building for the feature it is nonsense to appoint someone who will walk out as soon as the next better offer comes along

more likely be sacked as I dont rate him. There again I could be wrong, its just as hes so close to Harry it rankles

westmidlandsaint

westmidlandsaint

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55 minutes ago, justvisiting said:

To all those supporters wanting Rohl...  Have you asked owls fans about the type of football they have watched this season.  Be careful what you wish for......

Can't be any worse than the shit we've been served up this season.

The Wednesday fans I know all rave about him, or at least did up until our interest back in January.

Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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1 hour ago, justvisiting said:

To all those supporters wanting Rohl...  Have you asked owls fans about the type of football they have watched this season.  Be careful what you wish for......

Well the majority I've seen are raving about him..

DT

DT

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Lampard, then. 😉

 

(33-1 with Paddy Power...)

Gary O'Neil behind favourite Rohl

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LeBizzier69

LeBizzier69

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16 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Before even getting into whether he’d be good, I’m amazed anyone thinks Lampard would walk out on Coventry for us at this point. 

You'd assume the only upside is the potential resources we could offer over Coventry.

Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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41 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

You'd assume the only upside is the potential resources we could offer over Coventry.

You'd also think that we could offer him and his team a better salary / package than Cov can probably afford. 

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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4 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Frank Lampard has to be approached.

He did what Steve Cooper did a few years ago, taking Forest from the depths of the league to the play-offs.

Only difference being that he won the play-offs and Frank didn’t.

Cooper is available, Lampard isn’t.  Can’t see him walking out on Coventry.  That would be a pretty shitty thing to do.

Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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5 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

You'd also think that we could offer him and his team a better salary / package than Cov can probably afford. 

 

48 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

You'd assume the only upside is the potential resources we could offer over Coventry.

Salary and resources maybe but the guy has only just taken the Coventry job, which he got through the help of family connections, the same family which isn’t popular here. Considering the position they were in when he took the job I doubt very much anyone thought ‘we either go up or I walk out’ so I suspect he’s had his eye on next season at least the whole time and even more so they’ve run really close this time around. Feel good factor, status and trust, plans already in place. Think they all trump an extra few quid especially as he’d presumably burn a lot of bridges and his reputation a bit if he walked out now. It’s not like he’s at Sheffield Wednesday where they’ve hit their ceiling either. 
 

sockeye

sockeye

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It would be premature of Lampard to walk now, he’s only just gotten the job at Coventry and is finally succeeding after a dodgy couple of spells at Everton and Chelsea. If he can build and maintain the work done on this season he will be able to achieve playoffs again in the next campaign. Don’t see him as more attractive than other options spoken about here anyhow

Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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1 hour ago, sockeye said:

It would be premature of Lampard to walk now, he’s only just gotten the job at Coventry and is finally succeeding after a dodgy couple of spells at Everton and Chelsea. If he can build and maintain the work done on this season he will be able to achieve playoffs again in the next campaign. Don’t see him as more attractive than other options spoken about here anyhow

Think a lot will depend on what assurances he gets from the Coventry board. If they end up selling their better players and not replace them with sufficient quality he might be tempted. Not saying he should be our manager at all, I would hope the club are targeting better.

aintforever

aintforever

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1 hour ago, sockeye said:

It would be premature of Lampard to walk now, he’s only just gotten the job at Coventry and is finally succeeding after a dodgy couple of spells at Everton and Chelsea. If he can build and maintain the work done on this season he will be able to achieve playoffs again in the next campaign. Don’t see him as more attractive than other options spoken about here anyhow

I guess it depends on what Saints can offer compared to Coventry, if it's a massive difference in terms of salary and money to spend on the squad he might see it as a good opportunity.

He's got a patchy record but Coventry played some decent stuff last night, looked like a well coached outfit. Plus I think having a 'name' might be a benefit us in our current situation.

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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I love the speculation about the new manager.

All in vain though as history has showed us time and again - let's face it, not one predicted Nathan fucking Jones, Russell Martin or Ivan Duric.

Likely no one will predict the next manager to join the wacky races - although plenty will say they knew it all along once announced ;)

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sockeye

sockeye

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1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I love the speculation about the new manager.

All in vain though as history has showed us time and again - let's face it, not one predicted Nathan fucking Jones, Russell Martin or Ivan Duric.

Likely no one will predict the next manager to join the wacky races - although plenty will say they knew it all along once announced ;)

Gennaro Gattuso.

Screencap this.

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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16 minutes ago, aintforever said:

I guess it depends on what Saints can offer compared to Coventry, if it's a massive difference in terms of salary

You appreciate he's worth in the region of £75m??

An extra 2 or 3 mil over 3 years really isn't going to make much difference to that!

As for the 'challenge', do we really offer anything more than Coventry do?

Doctoroncall

Doctoroncall

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1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I love the speculation about the new manager.

All in vain though as history has showed us time and again - let's face it, not one predicted Nathan fucking Jones, Russell Martin or Ivan Duric.

Likely no one will predict the next manager to join the wacky races - although plenty will say they knew it all along once announced ;)

Well it’s not going to Pezzolano, who I’m sure was on someone’s list. Watford have beaten us to him 🤪

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