Will Still

[santolijador]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

They do in French Guiana and Suriname!

I knew that was coming....

Two footballing powerhouses of course! 

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, santolijador said:

I knew that was coming....

Two footballing powerhouses of course! 

You joke, but some very good players were either born in French Guiana and Suriname or they have parents/grandparents that were!

For example... Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids, Ruud Gullit, Frank Rijkaard, Georginio Wijnaldum, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Florent Malouda, Mike Maignan etc

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

You joke, but some very good players were either born in French Guiana and Suriname or they have parents/grandparents that were!

For example... Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids, Ruud Gullit, Frank Rijkaard, Georginio Wijnaldum, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Florent Malouda, Mike Maignan etc

Ken Monkou (if you want to keep it Saints related). 

[revolution saint]

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

Think this is a much better insight into him rather than conversations with nauseating podcast hosts and/or awkward youtubers reading from a script they've stolen from said podcasts.

Cheers for posting, I'd watched that last week and couldn't find it again.  Agree, it's a much better insight into what he's like as a manager and far better than the interviews he's done.  Comes across as far more assertive than he does in anything else I've seen.

[CSA96]

Video of Will Still's first interview now on the Saints website: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/video/watch-will-stills-first-interview-as-saints-manager

Edited Monday at 15:06 by CSA96

[Zorba]

2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Think this is a much better insight into him rather than conversations with nauseating podcast hosts and/or awkward youtubers reading from a script they've stolen from said podcasts.

“Either you fucking foul them or you win the ball back!”

You listening Smallbone?

[Matthew Le God]

49 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Video of Will Still's first interview now on the Saints website: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/video/watch-will-stills-first-interview-as-saints-manager

YouTube version...

 

 

[Harry_SFC]

49 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Video of Will Still's first interview now on the Saints website: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/video/watch-will-stills-first-interview-as-saints-manager

A manager who wants to win and is happy to adapt his plan to suit the club and players. In my mind this guy is light years ahead of Martin already.

[goodymatt]

 

[Saint NL]

He is absolutely top class at swearing. Never misses an opportunity to get a "shit" in a sentence. That's to be applauded, a dieing art.

 

[Convict Colony]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

You joke, but some very good players were either born in French Guiana and Suriname or they have parents/grandparents that were!

For example... Clarence Seedorf, Edgar Davids, Ruud Gullit, Frank Rijkaard, Georginio Wijnaldum, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Florent Malouda, Mike Maignan etc

You missed out Saints legend and brickshit house template provider Ulrich Van Gobbel

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, Convict Colony said:

You missed out Saints legend and brickshit house template provider Ulrich Van Gobbel

He is in the etc part

[Convict Colony]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

He is in the etc part

Poor Ulrich reduced to an abbreviation 😁

[malcolm waldron]

I'm just thinking that with all the news building up to the announcement yesterday - and random French journalists saying he's the best young coach in Europe - have we got the wrong Still?  Lets face it, if he's that good he'll be off to Leeds, Burnley or Sunderland by mid November, and if he isnt very good he'll be sacked by the end of October.  So should we have cut out the middle man and gone straight for one of his brothers?  I'm not fussed which one - either the one with aspirations, or the video analyst one?   I hadn't heard of either of them before last Wednesday but I'm willing (no pun meant there) to trust Dragan, the Spors geezer and of course Mr if it aint broke break it man. 

[SaveloyMush]

43 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Poor Ulrich reduced to an abbreviation 😁

Abbreviation, or contraction?

[goodymatt]

4 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Think this is a much better insight into him rather than conversations with nauseating podcast hosts and/or awkward youtubers reading from a script they've stolen from said podcasts.

Great watch and thanks for sharing, really encouraging insight into how he works. He appears to have great man management skills and clearly puts everything into it. Agree with other posters this is the best video of them all, the suite of content on this guy is all looking like we have made a great appointment. Let’s hope that excitement and hope that this is going to work bears fruit this season. I’m certainly feeling a lot more optimistic the more I look into this guy.

[Give it to Ron]

Has it been confirmed his brothers are not joining? I saw few reports yesterday saying no.

[ErwinK1961]

Just now, Give it to Ron said:

Has it been confirmed his brothers are not joining? I saw few reports yesterday saying no.

Alfie House has basically confirmed it, ones got their own managerial offer.

[Soton7]

I was a bit underwhelmed with the appointment. However, watching his interviews and reading his background story, he seems like a genuinely nice chap with great morals. I wish him all the best. Weirdly, looking forward to August- Up the Saints! 

Edited Monday at 21:13 by Soton7

[aintforever]

It is a gamble but I guess with Still there is at least a chance we have got someone with potential to be really great. He seems the sort character we need and certainly talks a good game. I like his ideas about a high energy game so it will be interesting to see who he brings in and gets rid of in the summer.

Edited Monday at 19:17 by aintforever

[BarberSaint]

Unlike Martin, I see no snake oil on him. He is beardless, appears to not vape and does look (as someone said elsewhere) like Tintin.

[suewhistle]

I haven't really got much to compare it with but he seemed clear with what he wanted in his coaching style,  essentially keeping it simple but his emphasis on movement was accompanied by plenty of detail on how to move. The bit about taking responsibility and not blaming other people was particularly apposite for Saints..

Mind you, his resting heart rate seems about 25 more than mine! Thanks for the link, I'm more encouraged now.

 

[davefizzy14]

Really enjoyed his first interview 😊 excited by his appointment. Looking forward to seeing who joins in his back room staff.

[Saint_clark]

Think Sulemana will fit perfectly in the Balogun role for his style of play. 

[Disco Stu]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Think Sulemana will fit perfectly in the Balogun role for his style of play. 

We shouldn't be relying on Sulemana to contribute anything next season. 3 goals and 5 assists in 69 appearances (0 goals in 25 in the Championship). Jones, Selles, Martin, Juric and Rusk have all failed to get a tune out of him. Fed up of seeing him strolling about in most games (not suited to a pressing system) and only putting effort in against Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal, two of those games being end of season exhibitions against rotated oppostion. Any forward that has a worse goals to game ratio for us than Sekou Mara shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. Get rid!

Edited Monday at 23:10 by Disco Stu

[Saint Fan CaM]

4 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Alfie House has basically confirmed it, ones got their own managerial offer.

Positive about Will Still’s appointment and he comes across very well, however not employing his Brothers as his coaching team might be seen as a hairline crack in the plan…were they an essential part of the equation in his previous successes? Time will tell of course and if he was not confident of success without them he wouldn’t have taken the job…would he? I do hope it’s not SR skimping.

[Osvaldorama]

6 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

YouTube version...

 

 

Yep. Like him already. 
 

Over to SR to back him to the hilt now. 

[besty]

Will Still
Wild and young
Long may your innocence reign
Like shells on the shore
And may your limits be unknown
And may your efforts be your own

[bogwoppit]

Not sure if anyone has already mentioned but on instagram / web there is a site called Coachnotes official - some interesting videos and analysis from Will. Apologies if already mentioned.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

14 hours ago, goodymatt said:

 

First game at St Mary’s and he’s got to put up with Rishi Sunak asking for a selfie with his Mrs. 

[Pilchards]

7 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Positive about Will Still’s appointment and he comes across very well, however not employing his Brothers as his coaching team might be seen as a hairline crack in the plan…were they an essential part of the equation in his previous successes? Time will tell of course and if he was not confident of success without them he wouldn’t have taken the job…would he? I do hope it’s not SR skimping.

I mentioned last week about a twist.

Will Still nearly never signed after being told he was to work with a team Spor are setting up for him.

Seriously are you telling me he wanted to come here without at least one of his brothers.

I reckon they are trying to keep Lallana in a coaching role to work with Will.

 

[ErwinK1961]

20 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

I mentioned last week about a twist.

Will Still nearly never signed after being told he was to work with a team Spor are setting up for him.

Seriously are you telling me he wanted to come here without at least one of his brothers.

I reckon they are trying to keep Lallana in a coaching role to work with Will.

 

Not buying that. If he was that bothered, he wouldn’t have joined. One of the brothers looks to be heading into management.

Why would the club not let them join in that scenario anyway? Can’t be money related, as it’s going to cost us to assemble another coaching team.

Alfie House mentioned yesterday that Spors is now conducting interviews and hope to have full team assembled by start of pre-season, which suggests this wasn’t planned.

If that plan was to have a Spors inspired coaching team, he would have had most of that done already.

I suspect he would have liked them to join him, but other opportunities have opened up for them so we’re now working on other options.

[Saint Fan CaM]

25 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

I mentioned last week about a twist.

Will Still nearly never signed after being told he was to work with a team Spor are setting up for him.

Seriously are you telling me he wanted to come here without at least one of his brothers.

I reckon they are trying to keep Lallana in a coaching role to work with Will.

 

It’s an interesting scenario. I would imagine that Lallana’s coaching experience while around Liverpool was not immersed in Pep style possession football…that’s not Klopp, so perhaps the intent is to groom Lallana in the ways of Still and then place him into the U-21’s or even as an assistant to Still? My concern of course is that Still is ‘weakened’ by the absence of his Brothers who I’m sure he was able to trust completely.

[Convict Colony]

9 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Think Sulemana will fit perfectly in the Balogun role for his style of play. 

I agree except for the small issue of Sullemana unable to score hardly any goals unlike Balogun so would have to adjust our expectations of his output.

He has a career goal rate of 24 goals in 165 games (14%) and has only scored more than 5 goals in a season once in his career (danish 9 goals)

He scored 0 goals in the championship (3 assists) even though he played 1000 mins and scored 3 goals in premier league this season (2 assists).

While I could see Still being enticed by the snake hips, pace etc unless he can have a shooting boot transplant I see him being more of a chaos player (player whose movement brings opposition out of shape creating space for others)  rather than executioner. question is does still want that and we get some actual goal threat in midfield and other side etc.

Edited Tuesday at 07:25 by Convict Colony

[Pilchards]

Will Still is a coaching genius on paper, not a fitness expert or someone who teaches players to cross, shoot or pass etc.

We need those people around Will to make it happen. I just pray he has a major saying in what players to bring in and sell plus all the other things a coach is suppose to do.

[goodymatt]

1 minute ago, Pilchards said:

Will Still is a coaching genius on paper, not a fitness expert or someone who teaches players to cross, shoot or pass etc.

We need those people around Will to make it happen. I just pray he has a major saying in what players to bring in and sell plus all the other things a coach is suppose to do.

What are your thoughts on this appointment?

Are you disappointed it isn’t Rohl?

[Saint_clark]

8 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

I agree except for the small issue of Sullemana unable to score hardly any goals unlike Balogun so would have to adjust our expectations of his output.

He has a career goal rate of 24 goals in 165 games (14%) and has only scored more than 5 goals in a season once in his career (danish 9 goals)

He scored 0 goals in the championship (3 assists) even though he played 1000 mins and scored 3 goals in premier league this season (2 assists).

While I could see Still being enticed by the snake hips, pace etc unless he can have a shooting boot transplant I see him being more of a chaos player (player whose movement brings opposition out of shape creating space for others)  rather than executioner. question is does still want that and we get some actual goal threat in midfield and other side etc.

While what you've said is correct you need to remember the style we were playing in the championship. He was out on left wing and instructed to not run with the ball, instead to pass it inwards to the midfield players and then look for the return. 

Stills style of football suits him much more 

[Fabrice29]

12 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

While what you've said is correct you need to remember the style we were playing in the championship. He was out on left wing and instructed to not run with the ball, instead to pass it inwards to the midfield players and then look for the return. 

Stills style of football suits him much more 

There are threads on here bumped solely to slag off certain individuals who had a big hand in our only successful recent season because of some bad performances off the bench yet Sulemana for example gets the classic ‘mismanaged and any day now he’ll be great’ treatment in his 3rd ineffective season. Incredible place this.

[suewhistle]

18 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

Will Still is a coaching genius on paper, not a fitness expert or someone who teaches players to cross, shoot or pass etc.

Yes, but see my point earlier about movement, which is where it all comes together.

As for Sulemanna, he looks a lot better being more direct (with more effort?) against Arsenal, but I can't imagine Still will be happy with the lack of pace and effort we show in supporting breakaways. Stewart was trying but we either need a faster (fitter?) striker or more support to give options.

[Pilchards]

13 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

What are your thoughts on this appointment?

Are you disappointed it isn’t Rohl?

I’m delighted with Will.

Think the club has pulled one out the bag here.
We will see players working hard on the football field and using their brains for once with a game plan.

My biggest fears will always be that Will needs to be the main person and not have a small role to play.

As for Rohl, if he thinks he can do better elsewhere then good luck with it. He wants to go to a club with his coaching team and I do believe that’s partly why he turned us down as we refused to pay the price.

 

[suewhistle]

4 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

My biggest fears will always be that Will needs to be the main person and not have a small role to play.

I don't know, but he can't be a s bad as RM in that respect, surely, where him and his coaching philosophy was supreme, even above the concept of winning!

[Saint Fan CaM]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

There are threads on here bumped solely to slag off certain individuals who had a big hand in our only successful recent season because of some bad performances off the bench yet Sulemana for example gets the classic ‘mismanaged and any day now he’ll be great’ treatment in his 3rd ineffective season. Incredible place this.

I suspect some remember Mane and how it took time and a new Manager to get the best from him (he was widely condemned on here early on). Sulemana might fall into the same bracket and just need the right manager and better teammates to shine. Not saying that’s something I completely agree with, but there is some sense in the argument.

[Nolan]

1 hour ago, Pilchards said:

I mentioned last week about a twist.

Will Still nearly never signed after being told he was to work with a team Spor are setting up for him.

Seriously are you telling me he wanted to come here without at least one of his brothers.

I reckon they are trying to keep Lallana in a coaching role to work with Will.

 

Will Still only worked with both his brothers at Lens, for a year.

before that Nicholas was with him for a season at Reims.

54 of his 125 matches (on Transfermarkt) were without either brother assisting.

[Fabrice29]

7 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I suspect some remember Mane and how it took time and a new Manager to get the best from him (he was widely condemned on here early on). Sulemana might fall into the same bracket and just need the right manager and better teammates to shine. Not saying that’s something I completely agree with, but there is some sense in the argument.

Will Still will be his 6th manager here. All with different styles and all have given him game time. The only manager out of those who was successful decided in the end he shouldn’t be in the team. But yeh, blame the managers, blame his team mates, blame tactics blah blah blah. 

If Still gets figures out of him nobody else has then wonderful but cutting him slack in one thread and piling onto a boyhood Saints fan who has helped deliver big moments for the club in that time will always be insane to me.

Thats not even getting into the Balogun comparison ffs 🤣🤣🤣

[Patches O Houlihan]

14 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Great watch and thanks for sharing, really encouraging insight into how he works. He appears to have great man management skills and clearly puts everything into it. Agree with other posters this is the best video of them all, the suite of content on this guy is all looking like we have made a great appointment. Let’s hope that excitement and hope that this is going to work bears fruit this season. I’m certainly feeling a lot more optimistic the more I look into this guy.

That's three chaps who've really rated a YouTube video that has been taken down, and I cannot see the title of to search for it! What was it called? What was the theme? Does anyone have a working link for it?

[Sheaf Saint]

25 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

We will see players working hard on the football field and using their brains for once with a game plan.

I'm seeing a potential flaw in this plan.

[Fabrice29]

1 hour ago, Pilchards said:

I mentioned last week about a twist.

Will Still nearly never signed after being told he was to work with a team Spor are setting up for him.

Seriously are you telling me he wanted to come here without at least one of his brothers.

I reckon they are trying to keep Lallana in a coaching role to work with Will.

 

‘I mentioned last week about a twist’ 🤣 Wonderfully blase. 

[Turkish]

26 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I suspect some remember Mane and how it took time and a new Manager to get the best from him (he was widely condemned on here early on). Sulemana might fall into the same bracket and just need the right manager and better teammates to shine. Not saying that’s something I completely agree with, but there is some sense in the argument.

Sulemana has been here 2.5 seasons and shown apart from a couple of decent games that he is anything more than a sprinter with a trick. Mane wss only here 2 seasons, he took a few months to settle and we didn’t change manager while he was here. Koeman signed him and Mane left the same summer Koeman did. Other than them both being African there is nothing similar about them

Edited Tuesday at 08:26 by Turkish

[Saint86]

Strong first interview from him i thought. He's calm and unassuming, but you can see how his self confidence and belief has grown across his numerous interviews so far. I do think that dealing with our dressing room (morale / exits / turnover) and the pressures of immediate promotion will be a significant challenge for him (and to me, this is where the risk lies), but his general man malmanagement and tactical nous seem to be his strong points. Over to him and Spors now for what needs to be a very strong summer - but so far, Spors has made solid moves and hit any targets i could have set (i.e., sort out the recruitment team after SR/ RA previously gutted it, and made a solid managerial appointment - all in good order before the summer). It seems like we're in safe hands post Solak getting more involved / shaking the tree.

Edited Tuesday at 08:37 by Saint86

[Maggie May]

5 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Strong first interview from him i thought. He's calm and unassuming, but you can see how his self confidence and belief has grown across his numerous interviews so far. I do think that dealing with our dressing room (morale / exits / turnover) and the pressures of immediate promotion will be a significant challenge for him (and to me, this is where the risk lies), but his general man malmanagement and tactical nous seem to be his strong points. Over to him and Spors now for what needs to be a very strong summer - but so far, Spors has made solid moves and hit any targets i could have set (i.e., sort out the recruitment team after SR/ RA previously gutted it, and made a solid managerial appointment - all in good order before the summer). It seems like we're in safe hands post Solak getting more involved / shaking the tree.

I’m hoping we will have a massive clear out. Regardless of who we bring in under Still, it’s imperative we shift a few players who we know are not up to standard and never will be.