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macca155

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I liked that team until I got to the strikers. No target man again.

Solid defence and midfield, I guess the plan is to withstand the inevitable pressure.  Take control and then increase the pressure in the 2nd half.

Very safe perhaps a bit too much.

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Lighthouse

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That's probably about as good a line up as I'd ask for. It suits the players we have available, with the creativity coming from the WB. I do prefer a back four but RB and AM positions are a bit of an issue until we get some players in.

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notnowcato

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6 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Fernandes on the bench is a pretty clear indication he's off, not just protecting him but also we won't want to get a false idea of how our team performs like we did with JWP and Tella last time. 

Would rather see Wood in for Stephens and Downs in for Fraser but hey ho. In still we trust.

Matty was only back training this week, he wouldn’t be risked as a starter if he wasn’t off. 

SWLondon Saint

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1 minute ago, RedArmy said:

Back 5 again?  :mcinnes:

Why are people down about this? We looked way better last week with 5 at the back. If it helps think of it as a back 3 with 1 pushing up when in possession.

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for_heaven's_Saint

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3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

3-4-3 is his formation, not sure why anybody is surprised by that.

Probably because Still himself said he’d want to play a back 4 when he arrived. 
 

FWIW I agree with the decision to go 3/5. Gives us options up the wings. 

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James

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Pretty happy with that. Would have liked Fernandes to start, bench is ominous. If Stewart had started in place of Fraser with Arma on the wing I’d be much more confident. Don’t fancy Arma as a lone striker.

Suhari

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2 minutes ago, macca155 said:

I liked that team until I got to the strikers. No target man again.

Solid defence and midfield, I guess the plan is to withstand the inevitable pressure.  Take control and then increase the pressure in the 2nd half.

Very safe perhaps a bit too much.

You echo my thoughts precisely.

At least we have plenty of options on the bench.

 

Scoobysaint

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That’s a pretty strong team really. Charles and Eddie were POTY at their clubs last season, now, would I lie to you? Admittedly it’s a bit weaker up front but Armstrong knows how to score in this league, Robinson can create and the WB’s will have freedom to attack. 

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saintant

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1 minute ago, James said:

Pretty happy with that. Would have liked Fernandes to start, bench is ominous. If Stewart had started in place of Fraser with Arma on the wing I’d be much more confident. Don’t fancy Arma as a lone striker.

Agree. Has Arma ever worked as a striker through the middle? Not as far as I recall.

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2Morrow

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Matched Wrexhams formations to try to leverage the talent differential as much as possible.

Loads of bench options to change the game

Love that will wants to play a 4, but isn't so rigid he doesn't pick the best formations for the players and game that are available.

After signings, Fraser wont be near this 11 and I imagine a cb drops out for the CAM

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SWLondon Saint

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Plan is clear, keep possession and wear them out in the initial stages. Expect to see it played to feet as much as possible or possibly into channel if Armstrong can get a run on them. No idea how quick / big their CBs are.

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RedArmy

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Just now, 2Morrow said:

 

Love that we wants to play a 4, but isn't so rigid he doesn't pick the best formations for the players and game that are available.

 

Look the bench. With the players available it’s crying out for a 4-2-3-1 today. 

Harry_SFC

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Not got a problem with that apart from AA upfront. Everyone knows my views on that. Get Downs in the side FFS. 

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CB Fry

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3 minutes ago, Scoobysaint said:

Charles and Eddie were POTY at their clubs last season, now, would I lie to you?

That's not the kind of game they play

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saintant

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1 minute ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Plan is clear, keep possession and wear them out in the initial stages. Expect to see it played to feet as much as possible or possibly into channel if Armstrong can get a run on them. No idea how quick / big their CBs are.

Think like last night space will be at a premium. Wrexham will be in our faces so possession football is going to be tough which is why I would have liked to see a target man through the middle as an out ball. It won't be pretty and if we try to make it so we'll struggle.

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notnowcato

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1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

Not got a problem with that apart from AA upfront. Everyone knows my views on that. Get Downs in the side FFS. 

Downs is another whose pre-season was limited. Not a starter today. 

Sheaf Saint

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2 minutes ago, saintant said:

Agree. Has Arma ever worked as a striker through the middle? Not as far as I recall.

No, but on the right of a front 3 was where he was very effective for us last time in the championship, and it looks like that's his role today. Just not sure exactly where and how Fraser and Robinson will line up.

notnowcato

notnowcato

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Just now, Sheaf Saint said:

No, but on the right of a front 3 was where he was very effective for us last time in the championship, and it looks like that's his role today. Just not sure exactly where and how Fraser and Robinson will line up.

I think we’ll see Fraser and Robinson as 10s behind Arma. 

Oisin

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8 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

As it hasn't been posted yet...

 

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Think the 4 in the 343 look really strong. Happy with the back 3 (as happy as you ever can be with Stephens but without THB …)

Delighted for Robinson to get the start - what a moment and opportunity for him. 
Id rather see ArmA wide right and Downes cf but otherwise pretty happy. Only disgruntled with Bazunu (resigned to it) and Fraser if I’m honest.

Shame Sessay didn’t make the bench, thought he’d earned it. Not sure on the need for 4 strikers on the bench either. Not quite Bompey last year but a waste of at least one spot. Have some balls and leave at least one of them out.

Sun is shining, feeling positive. C’mon lads!!!

 

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Badger

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14 minutes ago, DG said:

New manager, different league, clean slate and all that but I have so little faith.

New season, new manager. Feels like same shit though.

14 minutes ago, macca155 said:

I liked that team until I got to the strikers. No target man again.

Solid defence and midfield, I guess the plan is to withstand the inevitable pressure.  Take control and then increase the pressure in the 2nd half.

Very safe perhaps a bit too much.

We’re at home for Christ sake. 

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Chez

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13 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Why are people down about this? We looked way better last week with 5 at the back. 

Cos we are almost always shit when we play that formation.

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coalman

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That's a strong defence and midfield. Excited to see what Downes and Charles can do in the middle and we're going to get crosses in from our wing backs. Fraser up front is a bit meh and Armstrong not the greatest focal point but I think he's, at least, getting service.

RedArmy

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2 minutes ago, Badger said:

 

We’re at home for Christ sake. 

Showing Wrexham far too much respect if that’s the way we’re trying to do things. 
 

Look how that worked for Ipswich last night. It just gave Birmingham more and more confidence. 
 

notnowcato

notnowcato

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8 minutes ago, Badger said:

New season, new manager. Feels like same shit though.

We’re at home for Christ sake. 

Yeah let's just ignore the obvious threat of the opponent

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sockeye

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Satisfied with the team. Hope we shoot right out of the gates. They aren’t used to top quality opposition so could shell shock them.

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V.Johnathan.Wilson

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In Will's system at Lens the full backs push really high, they're more like out and out wingers so I think it'll be a different kind of 3 CB system to ones we've experienced in the past. 

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Saint_clark

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The only confusing thing for me about the attack is that Still likes to mix up short and long passing. If we're going direct there's nobody there who could bring it down, take a touch and play someone in. With that line up direct play can only mean balls over the top, and I highly doubt Parkinson is stupid enough to play a high line in the championship like Wrexham have been all the way up so far.

suewhistle

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I'm in a mild state of Shakespearian era inebriation so am managing to avoid too much worry. Bench looks suitable for significant positive changes but I'm hoping Robinson avoids the need to be desperate and they can be used to add to a convincing win. 

Buzzy in the pub, let's hope we can maintain the positive atmosphere.

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Toussaint

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23 minutes ago, saintant said:

Agree. Has Arma ever worked as a striker through the middle? Not as far as I recall.

He had played 9, it’s his preferred position, but imo he’s terrible there.

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