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44 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Been over shadowed a bit by Scienza but what a good player he is, great crosser of the ball, good in tight spaces. Not as dynamic as Scienza but a really clever player. 

It's obvious what he's going to do but the opposition can't stop him. 

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9 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

It's obvious what he's going to do but the opposition can't stop him. 

It’s weird isn’t it. He does the same thing every time but always gets a cross in. Sometimes from such tight spaces you think there is no chance 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

The scenario we have now is teams have got so many problems to deal with now with Scienza / Arma / Fellows / Azaz in the kitchen 

Which should have been the case at the beginning of the season! 

With that quartet we should be overwhelming a lot of teams.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s weird isn’t it. He does the same thing every time but always gets a cross in. Sometimes from such tight spaces you think there is no chance 

That's something that the West Brom fans said a lot too.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s weird isn’t it. He does the same thing every time but always gets a cross in. Sometimes from such tight spaces you think there is no chance 

He has excellent close control of the ball. Really quick feet. Doesn't give the opposition chance to nick it. And playing in his perfect position it seems.

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Posted

He would have a field day with an aerial threat in the box, he is such a good crosser of the ball in so many different ways. Absolutely superb from the first whistle tonight, best performance by far. 

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Posted
49 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

He would have a field day with an aerial threat in the box, he is such a good crosser of the ball in so many different ways. Absolutely superb from the first whistle tonight, best performance by far. 

Yes he shone tonight that's for sure,just needed someone to put the right players in the right positions,haven't we all been seeing this?

Posted
3 hours ago, BotleySaint said:

He has excellent close control of the ball. Really quick feet. Doesn't give the opposition chance to nick it. And playing in his perfect position it seems.

You don't see a lot of right footed right wingers these days, more the "cut in and shoot on the left foot" types, but I agree he suits the position and the style so much - and even then isn't afraid to cut in when needed. Excellent performance today. I agree though, a rangy striker instead of AA that could get in on the end of the crosses would improve us, although AA has been good lately in the role Tonda has given him.

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Posted
6 hours ago, saintwbu said:

He would have a field day with an aerial threat in the box, he is such a good crosser of the ball in so many different ways. Absolutely superb from the first whistle tonight, best performance by far. 

This. If Stewart was fit or Downs any good we would be reaping the benefits. 

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Posted
15 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

The scenario we have now is teams have got so many problems to deal with now with Scienza / Arma / Fellows / Azaz in the kitchen 

Yes, its brilliant.

Also takes the pressure of the CBs and GK situation - and means we can also utilise baz's distribution and sweeper keeping a bit more - which actually plays to his strengths.

Posted
1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

Yes, its brilliant.

Also takes the pressure of the CBs and GK situation - and means we can also utilise baz's distribution and sweeper keeping a bit more - which actually plays to his strengths.

Right, and since we’ve mentioned every other position - around all of this is those 2x centre-mid pivots.  The cogs that make all the other stuff function. 

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He’s really been great recently superb running with the ball . But do we think he could be even better in a 4231 with science other side and azaz in the hole.. we don’t need to change it at the moment but think we could see him improve even more if he wasn’t playing wingback 

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30 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

He’s really been great recently superb running with the ball . But do we think he could be even better in a 4231 with science other side and azaz in the hole.. we don’t need to change it at the moment but think we could see him improve even more if he wasn’t playing wingback 

Agree, I'd rather see him playing as an out and out winger in a 4231 but the club mantra seems to be 3 centre halves and wing backs.

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

He’s really been great recently superb running with the ball . But do we think he could be even better in a 4231 with science other side and azaz in the hole.. we don’t need to change it at the moment but think we could see him improve even more if he wasn’t playing wingback 

Think it’d bring the best out of a lot of our players. If we get promoted we’re 3 (or 4 if Ramsdale leaves) signings away from having a starting 11 that could compete in the premier league with this formation.

Signings being RB, CB and ST and think this is probably why, aside from loans, we won’t be signing players in those positions in January as we’ll need to replace again with better in the summer if the season plays out as we’d hope.

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7 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

He’s really been great recently superb running with the ball . But do we think he could be even better in a 4231 with science other side and azaz in the hole.. we don’t need to change it at the moment but think we could see him improve even more if he wasn’t playing wingback 

Azaz could really make that position his own. As long as Tom doesn’t stray inside.. No-one wants to see fellows in the az hole..

..and god forbid if Wood decides to play a little further up the pitch.

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17 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

He’s really been great recently superb running with the ball . But do we think he could be even better in a 4231 with science other side and azaz in the hole.. we don’t need to change it at the moment but think we could see him improve even more if he wasn’t playing wingback 

If we get promoted and he is still with us, I would like to see him move to an inside forward position or a wide forward, as I think wing back at PL level may be a defensive step too far.

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Posted
15 hours ago, ChrisPY said:

Think it’d bring the best out of a lot of our players. If we get promoted we’re 3 (or 4 if Ramsdale leaves) signings away from having a starting 11 that could compete in the premier league with this formation.

Signings being RB, CB and ST and think this is probably why, aside from loans, we won’t be signing players in those positions in January as we’ll need to replace again with better in the summer if the season plays out as we’d hope.

Like this?

------Ramsdale-----

RB---CB---THB---Manning

----Charles--Jander---

Fellows--Azaz--Scienza

----------ST----------

On top of that, I think we would need left back, strong defensive centre midfielder, number 10.

 

Posted
Just now, benjii said:

Like this?

------Ramsdale-----

RB---CB---THB---Manning

----Charles--Jander---

Fellows--Azaz--Scienza

----------ST----------

On top of that, I think we would need left back, strong defensive centre midfielder, number 10.

 

That’s quite wonderful, actually

Posted
16 hours ago, saintant said:

Agree, I'd rather see him playing as an out and out winger in a 4231 but the club mantra seems to be 3 centre halves and wing backs.

i'm not a fan of 5 at the back, but he was pretty ineffective as a winger. There is more limited space to work, often teams double up on him and all he did was come inside. Perhaps starting runs from deeper and usually in a position between winger and fullback helps him. There is less onus on him to provide end product too. we just need him to get us moving, which he has done well.

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Tom Fellows has been a major disappointment. For whatever reason he seems to have lost his way and is very low on confidence. I think we all expected to see him flying down the wing and whipping in dangerous crosses, creating chances and weighing in with a few goals. It just hasn't happened for him. There must be some way for the coaching staff to get him firing again. I get that he's a poor finisher so isn't going to be a regular goal scorer but we need to get more out of him or he may as well go at the end of the season. With Leo doing his stuff on one wing it would be great to see Fellows in full cry on the other because we'd be a so much better side. It's a head scratcher for sure because the guy has bundles of talent.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, saintant said:

Tom Fellows has been a major disappointment. For whatever reason he seems to have lost his way and is very low on confidence. I think we all expected to see him flying down the wing and whipping in dangerous crosses, creating chances and weighing in with a few goals. It just hasn't happened for him. There must be some way for the coaching staff to get him firing again. I get that he's a poor finisher so isn't going to be a regular goal scorer but we need to get more out of him or he may as well go at the end of the season. With Leo doing his stuff on one wing it would be great to see Fellows in full cry on the other because we'd be a so much better side. It's a head scratcher for sure because the guy has bundles of talent.

Over the course of the whole season, he hasn't been too bad. His first touch, ball retention and willingness to take the ball in tight areas and draw defenders to him has been very beneficial. He was our best player at right wing back for several games when Tonda came in. Personally, I have been pleasantly surprised by him, as when I have watched him the past for WBA I thought he looked really mediocre. I wasn't excited by his signing to be honest, as I could see why PL clubs didn't fancy him. I guess his more recent form, which hasn't been quite as bad as some are making out, is more aligned with what I had witnessed before. He can still play a major part in our promotion, but he needs to re-find his mojo a little.

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Is it just me, or did he go for the byline and get a cross inn almost every time he got the ball in the beginning? At the time when whe had Arma and Archer in the box...
It seems to me he is cutting back a lot more now, and only tries for the byline one in five or something? And now we have proper 9's in the box...

I wonder if this change is becuase he has lost confidence, or if it is how we want him to play, and he is struggeling with it, and has lost confidence beacuse of the change?

Anyways, he just needs to score.

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Posted (edited)
58 minutes ago, bugenhagen said:

Is it just me, or did he go for the byline and get a cross inn almost every time he got the ball in the beginning? At the time when whe had Arma and Archer in the box...
It seems to me he is cutting back a lot more now, and only tries for the byline one in five or something? And now we have proper 9's in the box...

I wonder if this change is becuase he has lost confidence, or if it is how we want him to play, and he is struggeling with it, and has lost confidence beacuse of the change?

Anyways, he just needs to score.

nah he was cutting inside a lot before too. About one in five going outside onto his weaker foot sounds about right. Might be less than that. It needs to be more. When he does do it, the cross tends to be a little floaty, but sometimes that isn't a bad thing.

He really does need to score every now and then. The chance he had on Sunday was a good one but considering he hit it with his left, was a really weak effort. He's only 22, so there is still a possibility that his finishing might improve, but equally what we see now might be what we get from here on in.

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2 hours ago, Chez said:

nah he was cutting inside a lot before too. About one in five going outside onto his weaker foot sounds about right. Might be less than that. It needs to be more. When he does do it, the cross tends to be a little floaty, but sometimes that isn't a bad thing.

He really does need to score every now and then. The chance he had on Sunday was a good one but considering he hit it with his left, was a really weak effort. He's only 22, so there is still a possibility that his finishing might improve, but equally what we see now might be what we get from here on in.

Pretty sure he is right footed. He looks that way to me, and Transfermarkt and a quick google confirms that.

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1 hour ago, bugenhagen said:

Pretty sure he is right footed. He looks that way to me, and Transfermarkt and a quick google confirms that.

i genuinely thought he was a leftie, but i think you might be right, which might explain he piss weak shot on sunday, although looking at his highlights video you could argue he is very two footed and perhaps not terribly strong at shooting with either

 

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40 minutes ago, Chez said:

i genuinely thought he was a leftie, but i think you might be right, which might explain he piss weak shot on sunday, although looking at his highlights video you could argue he is very two footed and perhaps not terribly strong at shooting with either

 

I agree, he is pretty much equally good at passing and controlling the ball with both feet, and equally poor at shooting with both 😄

It is good to have a winger who can go both ways, makes him and us more unpredictable, but I just love the old wingers who got to the byline and crossed, so I guess I was hoping to see more of that from him.

Posted
26 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Moussa Djenepo is better than Tom Fellows.

Probably not, Djenepo is playing in Iran funnily enough...and isn't even a regular for them.

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He's been my biggest disappointment this year given he was the player I was most excited about signing. It's not his fault though that we absolutely fucked up his start to the season by playing him out of position. I expect that messed with his confidence a bit.

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Posted
8 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

He's been my biggest disappointment this year given he was the player I was most excited about signing. It's not his fault though that we absolutely fucked up his start to the season by playing him out of position. I expect that messed with his confidence a bit.

although interestingly he has played far better as a wing back in a 5 than a winger in a back 4. Confidence is key i guess

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, Chez said:

i genuinely thought he was a leftie, but i think you might be right, which might explain he piss weak shot on sunday, although looking at his highlights video you could argue he is very two footed and perhaps not terribly strong at shooting with either

 

When you watch that you can only scratch your head and wonder what's happened to him. We simply have to get him back on track because he's such a talented player.

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Posted
14 hours ago, Chez said:

i genuinely thought he was a leftie, but i think you might be right, which might explain he piss weak shot on sunday, although looking at his highlights video you could argue he is very two footed and perhaps not terribly strong at shooting with either

 

Even more baffling that if he’d opened up his body to take a shot with his right, he’d have had a great angle to score. Going outside with his left massively narrowed the angle. Frustrating as he should be on at least 5 for the season but seems to be getting further away from scoring 

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