Derby 1-1 Saints - Match Thread

[Saint_lambden]

Onwards we go then. I think most would have taken 4 points combined from Sheff Utd and this one beforehand but now we have a win, it would be a big disapointment to not follow it Tuesday's success with another here. 

Derby just 1 win in their opening 8. Eustace sides are not pretty to play against but we should have the confidence and ability now to kick on and beat them. 

Potential only change to the team might be Fraser in for Azaz. 2-0 Saints. 

[saintant]

Take a point but a win would be great. Stewart's performance tonight should have them worried.

[whiteleySaint30]

Still waiting for my tickets. Is anyone else or have you all received yours?

[AlexLaw76]

Any chance we can score from our first shot on target???

[Danbert]

I'd start Wee Man and keep the same backline and goalie. I hope Stewart can cope with 2 games in a week. COYS! 

[tttdcs]

If anyone has ONE spare please email tttdcs@icloud.com 👍

Thank you

[Sheaf Saint]

24 minutes ago, Danbert said:

I'd start Wee Man and keep the same backline and goalie. I hope Stewart can cope with 2 games in a week. COYS! 

He looked absolutely knackered when he came off last night. Maybe WS should have made the sub earlier because he ceased to be of any use to the team effort at least 10 minutes before finally being hooked. It might not have been such a nervy finish if we had some fresh legs up front to keep Utd pegged back a little more.

But that said, I think he needs to be starting every game now if he's fit enough. Last night we finally got to see the player we all hoped we were getting 2 years ago and there's nobody else in the squad who can offer that kind of contribution.

[LGTL]

1 hour ago, whiteleySaint30 said:

Still waiting for my tickets. Is anyone else or have you all received yours?

Still waiting for ours. The last batch were posted on Monday so should come today hopefully. No idea why they leave it so late, especially with the £1.50 per ticket joke of a booking fee.

Edited Wednesday at 07:20 by LGTL

[Baird of the land]

I’d like to see Scienza in for Azaz.

[sockeye]

Another must win to build some confidence in the team really. 

[Lighthouse]

Back to back away wins would be a big statement. I'd still like to see a back four with Jelly and Mads as the full backs. Hopefully Stewart has at least an hour of this game in his legs.

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, LGTL said:

Still waiting for ours. The last batch were posted on Monday so should come today hopefully. No idea why they leave it so late, especially with the £1.50 per ticket joke of a booking fee.

Don't get me started on that, bought 6 tickets, that's ONE transaction and one envelope to post and yet £9 in booking fee, it's an absolute joke 

[Football Special]

53 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Back to back away wins would be a big statement. I'd still like to see a back four with Jelly and Mads as the full backs. Hopefully Stewart has at least an hour of this game in his legs.

It's a tricky one, Stewart has to start again doesn't he, but would hate him to pick up an injury, aim to play first half or 60 mins then switch it up anyway. 

Eustace will 100% have them set up deep looking for us to lose the ball and hit us on the break, re-run of Hull so we could do with getting first goal and don't walk into the trap. 

[Football Special]

3,100 sold out away end going up for this, excellent following 👏 

[Jack]

Just watched their highlights from last night and they looked pretty open defensively against Charlton. Their last 5 they’ve drawn with Charlton, Wrexham and Ipswich, and lost 1-0 at WBA and Preston at home. No rollovers, but also not very good 

[spyinthesky]

4 minutes ago, Jack said:

Just watched their highlights from last night and they looked pretty open defensively against Charlton. Their last 5 they’ve drawn with Charlton, Wrexham and Ipswich, and lost 1-0 at WBA and Preston at home. No rollovers, but also not very good 

And they will be without their main attacking forward on loan from a team on the South Coast!!

[die Mannyschaft]

45 minutes ago, Football Special said:

3,100 sold out away end going up for this, excellent following 👏 

Tried but failed to select any green dots on ticket site. Anyone else have same problem on Samsung mobile? Had this all season. If choose automatic it tgen gives 2 tickets not in same block so end up calling ticket office but that stupid band announcement/ticket master means takes ages to get answered and remains seats sold out. Think all aways games will sell out.

[die Mannyschaft]

53 minutes ago, Football Special said:

3,100 sold out away end going up for this, excellent following 👏 

Last night was good, but 1st half didn't help, Saints need some first half goals. Have a good trip!

[Toadhall Saint]

Expecting 3 points from this.

[Dman]

They'll be without BBD, which is a real shame as that is an obvious weak link down 1 side. 

They're a realtively poor side. Should be a comfortable win if we can find our feet infront of goal. Has to click at some point... doesn't it? 

a win and the world certainly looks a lot healthier going into the international break. 

[Patches O Houlihan]

4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Any chance we can score from our first shot on target???

Everyone else we play seems to manage it...

[danjosaint]

53 minutes ago, Dman said:

 

They're a realtively poor side. Should be a comfortable win if we can find our feet infront of goal. Has to click at some point... doesn't it? 

 

We said that about Hull 

[Pamplemousse]

Time to kick on now. Yesterday's win was huge.

[Pamplemousse]

Time to kick on now. Yesterday's win was huge.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I’d still like us to find a way to make 4 at the back work so we can get more of our best attackers in their natural positions. 
 

I’d also like to see Still make substitutions that change the game in our favour. 
 

For me, the definite names on the team sheet should be: McCarthy, Wood, Jander, Stewart and Armstrong. All the rest are up for debate imo, including who plays with Jander. 

[Matthew Le God]

4 hours ago, Dman said:

They'll be without BBD, which is a real shame as that is an obvious weak link down 1 side. 

Alternatively... they will be playing a player they consider isn't good enough to beat Brereton Díaz to a starting spot.

[stfrancisofbenali]

6 draws last night out of 8 Championship games. No one is running away with it this year.

[skintsaint]

5 hours ago, Dman said:

a win and the world certainly looks a lot healthier going into the international break. 

It would be typical if we did win, start to get some momentum and then a two week break...

[Verbal]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Alternatively... they will be playing a player they consider isn't good enough to beat Brereton Díaz to a starting spot.

Sorry, there's no vacancy for a Professor Pangloss on Saintsweb.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Having come from behind to beat Sheffield United away, there should be no excuse for not beating Derby.

They’ve started very defensively and very slowly.

[sad saints fan]

12 hours ago, whiteleySaint30 said:

Still waiting for my tickets. Is anyone else or have you all received yours?

Mine arrived today

[Wade Garrett]

The Rams?  Let’s ram it up their fucking arseholes.  3-0, Stewart hat-trick.

Met a few people from Derby, they’re like people from Nottingham apart from the fact that they’re fucking boring.  Had more exciting nights watching Housewives shite with my missus.

Edited Thursday at 13:50 by Wade Garrett

[OneMrsWallace]

Drop Azaz to the bench. Otherwise, let's friggin take em down. 2-1 Saints just cos we usually concede one. 

[Patches O Houlihan]

9 hours ago, for_heaven's_Saint said:

I’d also like to see Still make substitutions that change the game in our favour. 

Do you mean like yesterday! 😉😁

[for_heaven's_Saint]

7 hours ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

Do you mean like yesterday! 😉😁

Haha fair point. But still don’t think we had a grip of the game despite taking the lead. 

[ally_uk]

Time to build some momentum 

Stewart must start 

3-0 Saints 

 

[eurosaint]

17 hours ago, for_heaven's_Saint said:

I’d still like us to find a way to make 4 at the back work so we can get more of our best attackers in their natural positions. 
 

I’d also like to see Still make substitutions that change the game in our favour. 
 

For me, the definite names on the team sheet should be: McCarthy, Wood, Jander, Stewart and Armstrong. All the rest are up for debate imo, including who plays with Jander. 

Can't see why Shea Charles is not on that list, you clearly reckon that he doesn't fit with Jander but they'll only develop a partnership by playing together ! 

[Patrick Bateman]

48 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Time to build some momentum 

Stewart must start 

3-0 Saints 

 

Agreed, same starting 11 again please. Get some consistency, allow them to understand more about each other and their positioning and styles.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

1 hour ago, eurosaint said:

Can't see why Shea Charles is not on that list, you clearly reckon that he doesn't fit with Jander but they'll only develop a partnership by playing together ! 

True, but I also thought Downes and Jander worked really well together at Anfield. If it’s Charles again I won’t be upset though- he’s had a good start to the season. 
 

I’d love to see us find a formation that can fit all 3 of them in and allow us to play with a proper attacking front 3 but probably not going to happen. 

[Roo1976]

16 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Agreed, same starting 11 again please. Get some consistency, allow them to understand more about each other and their positioning and styles.

Hope not too many changes if any,but there has to be a spot for JS and THB?..............or should they be considered as squad back up players? THB has just dropped off a cliff with his performances . I think last years lesson in the prem had a big affect on mental fragility for a lot who were picked week after week only to slump and get battered. But then an awful manager with zero plans when things don't go right weren't exactly an ideal or practical solution. Well at least there are shots of recovery beginning to show, just cut out a few too many negative passes for the sake of passing and were be OK i think.

[Toadhall Saint]

11 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said:

True, but I also thought Downes and Jander worked really well together at Anfield. If it’s Charles again I won’t be upset though- he’s had a good start to the season. 
 

I’d love to see us find a formation that can fit all 3 of them in and allow us to play with a proper attacking front 3 but probably not going to happen. 

Out of the two pairings (and I really rate Charles) I think Flynn and Jander were the better but to be honest it’s a close thing.

Edited Thursday at 08:21 by Toadhall Saint
Fat fingers

[Give it to Ron]

Anyone know best pub for this?

[austsaint]

26 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said:

True, but I also thought Downes and Jander worked really well together at Anfield. If it’s Charles again I won’t be upset though- he’s had a good start to the season. 
 

I’d love to see us find a formation that can fit all 3 of them in and allow us to play with a proper attacking front 3 but probably not going to happen. 

Why not Downes and Shea at CM;  Jander replaces Azaz as the 10 , with Scienza as a back up. Arma, Stewart and Fellows.?

[Toadhall Saint]

21 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Anyone know best pub for this?

From memory there were a few across the road from the train station- about 15 min walk to the ground.

[RedArmy]

7 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Why not Downes and Shea at CM; 

 Because it doesn’t work. 

[BARCELONASAINT]

It was great to get the win on Tuesday but it was against Sheff Utd who have 7 loses and 1 win this season!

I'm not getting carried away or fooled by the extended highlights i saw of the game. We are still very poor in patches and when we are the team on top we are not being clinical enough in the final third.

I'm hoping the win on Tuesday lifts everyones confidence and the players start to believe in themselves a bit more and really go at Derby, otherwise we will end up with another Hull result!

[saintant]

7 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Why not Downes and Shea at CM;  Jander replaces Azaz as the 10 , with Scienza as a back up. Arma, Stewart and Fellows.?

Yeah, good shout that. Could well work because Azaz has not been what we expected so far. Would also like to see Fellows moved from wing back as you suggest because he's wasted there - with Stewart getting the big confidence boost of scoring two goal we need to be supplying him with chances from both flanks.

[austsaint]

16 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

 Because it doesn’t work. 

I know that’s a point of view on sections of the forum; but I question it.   Downes at this level is in the top bracket of midfielders.   Charles likewise.  There’s no reason to think they can’t combine in CM.     I don’t know whether Jander has played the attacking mid role before, but everything I see of him suggests he can.   Thus far, Azaz has been a dud; no denying his record at this level is good, but he just doesn’t look to be the player we need. I suspect he was third choice, at best, attacking 10 recruit.   Still has shown the capacity to make changes and act on what he sees on the pitch.  This might be another opportunity to fine tune the starting 11 for the better.

[Toadhall Saint]

26 minutes ago, austsaint said:

I know that’s a point of view on sections of the forum; but I question it.   Downes at this level is in the top bracket of midfielders.   Charles likewise.  There’s no reason to think they can’t combine in CM.     I don’t know whether Jander has played the attacking mid role before, but everything I see of him suggests he can.   Thus far, Azaz has been a dud; no denying his record at this level is good, but he just doesn’t look to be the player we need. I suspect he was third choice, at best, attacking 10 recruit.   Still has shown the capacity to make changes and act on what he sees on the pitch.  This might be another opportunity to fine tune the starting 11 for the better.

Just because they are the “top” doesn’t mean they work well together. Lampard and Gerrard were “top” but couldn’t play together for England. I’m not against what you are suggesting but just pointing out where you could go wrong.

[danjosaint]

So why not a 4141

                        Mc

Jelert     Wood     Quarshie    Man

                     Downes

Fellows    Azaz   Jander    Scienza

                     Stewart

Plenty of options then Charles straight in for Azaz, Robinson/Fraser for Scienza, Roeslav for Jelert who would swap to Lb instead of Manning , Arma for Fellows then Archer for Stewart