Southampton 0-2 Preston - Match Thread

[SaintNate]

Still still hasn't given a post match...

[Dr Who?]

17 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

If Blackpool don't pick up I won't even get a "home" game next season.

Missed this one with Carlisle! 😜 

[Colinjb]

10 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

 

Everything wrong with our club in a nutshell.

Contemptuous entitled c*nts soiling our colours.

[Mboto Gorge]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

Considering we have won 2 games this season alone, it clearly isn't a fact.

He is talking about home games, since beating Everton in early November last season. Good job the fans stayed with the side today anyway, really helped didn’t it?  

[RedArmy]

10 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

 

 

Why is Manning not telling him to shut the fuck up? 
 

This club is rotten to the core 

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, saintant said:

I know it's bad but this isn't a fact is it?

1 home game won since Everton.

[SouSaint]

We are going down.

The players can go and get fucked, useless cunts the lot of them. 

[Dr Who?]

He will be gone as Sports Republic do not want that kind of pressure. They will continue to make the incorrect choices with recruitment though. Forget the up and coming, and let’s just get experience at this level and regroup as a club. 

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, RedArmy said:

Why is Manning not telling him to shut the fuck up? 
 

This club is rotten to the core 

Does that just a few paces behind Still, shows Will is 100% going tonight but it’s a total lack of respect to both the manager and more importantly the club.

[ant]

20 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Incredibly muted protests at the ends, the fans that stayed just quietly filing out 😕

Doesn't match my experience. 

Multiple chants of "you're not fit to wear the shirt" towards the end and after - including during one of our final corners. 

Might have imagined it, but fairly sure Wood got pissed off about it. 

One or two renditions of "sacked in the morning". Then at the final whistle "Sports Republic, get out of our club" got a couple more decent rounds.

When Still came over after the final whistle the boos were venomous. 

Overall thought the crowd pitched it about right today. Timeless chants like "Southampton til I die" rather than much about the current day. 

Saved any poison for the most dire moments. Definitely less soft and accepting than we normally are.

[Saint_clark]

Just now, ant said:

Doesn't match my experience. 

Multiple chants of "you're not fit to wear the shirt" towards the end and after - including during one of our final corners. 

Might have imagined it, but fairly sure Wood got pissed off about it. 

One or two renditions of "sacked in the morning". Then at the final whistle "Sports Republic, get out of our club" got a couple more decent rounds.

When Still came over after the final whistle the boos were venomous. 

Overall thought the crowd pitched it about right today. Timeless chants like "Southampton til I die" rather than much about the current day. 

Saved any poison for the most dire moments. Definitely less soft and accepting than we normally are.

Theres people who idolise and aspire to the kind of behaviour the West Ham fans showed when they tried to climb into the directors box to physically attack the owners, so no amount of chanting will be enough for everyone. 

[SambaMaverick]

Adam Armstrong: "We just have to get everything right"

Fuck off, mate

[redkeith]

We are getting worse each week. 

The recruitment has been terrible ever since SR took over. Signing SAA and Meghoma on big salaries that pissed of Doyle, Morgan etc and cleared out the best academy players.  Not signing a strong centre back or centre forward. Bazunu! Pissing millions up the wall on Man City reserves. 

Renewing players who have proven to be inadequate at the top level. 

Awful managerial appointments. All of them with the bullshit out of the box philosophy, never anyone with a track record in the league we were in. 

I am happy that, living in France , I don't get to many games anymore, and when I do I have used a mates season ticket, so Sports Republic haven't got a penny out of me, nor will they in the future.

 

 

 

[Dr Who?]

1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said:

Adam Armstrong: "We just have to get everything right"

Fuck off, mate

He means sacking Still! 

[Mboto Gorge]

6 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Everything wrong with our club in a nutshell.

Contemptuous entitled c*nts soiling our colours.

Self entitled little prick needs to be fucked off and sold in January, 

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said:

Adam Armstrong: "We just have to get everything right"

Fuck off, mate

Be nice if they could get something right.

[macca155]

Be under no illusions Preston deserved that. If anything they let us off the hook a little.

The players were all at sea, no coherent structure or dynamic play. I don't blame Wood for reacting like that. He's the one player who has put a shift in. Players are human beings.

Horrible defensive set up. when Edwards went off there was absolutely no difference, the defence coped fine. Fellows and Robinson caused all sorts of trouble and for a short while the momentum was with Saints. 

Suddenly another set of substitutions which pushed Fellows back, and left Robinson marooned in midfield. Madness, no midfield and 5 forwards waiting for the ball. No way was that Championship level management.

Aribo is unfit and certainly not the saviour.

Changes are required.

[Saint_clark]

Bit rich of Armstrong to start talking about the whole team needing to do their job, considering the chances he missed in the previous three games (before today) which would have seen us win all three of them. 

Edited yesterday at 17:33 by Saint_clark

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

As do Goztepe, where he’s supposed to be focusing, not here. 

It seems bizarre to have players to play 4-2-3-1 say it’s your favourite formation and want to play it, but not do it, especially when it’s clear what we are doing isn’t working 

[Micky]

14 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Still will go but there's so many decisions that have got us to this point unrelated to the manager. Signing Downs as the only striker, giving Stephens a 3 year contract, not signing championship experience where it counts, bringing Trollope in who failed previously along with keeping idiots like Lallana, not signing a keeper. The new manager whoever they are needs to keep things very simple and clear. We need to play the best players in their proper positions with no dicking about and then we need to buy a new striker as early as possible in January. 

Agree with this other than trying to find a striker, which is generally pretty difficult to do in the January window. Forget promotion, ditch Still, bring in someone to stabilise us this season and go again next season. Break the bank and use the budget on the spine of the side, a proven striker, goalkeeper and defensive midfielder. We have enough quality to build around that. This season is done, we need to look to next season to get this club sorted out.

[hypochondriac]

Just now, macca155 said:

Be under no illusions Preston deserved that. If anything they let us off the hook a little.

The players were all at sea, no coherent structure or dynamic play. I don't blame Wood for reacting like that. He's the one player who has put a shift in. Players are human beings.

Horrible defensive set up. when Edwards went off there was absolutely no difference, the defence coped fine. Fellows and Robinson caused all sorts of trouble and for a short while the momentum was with Saints. 

Suddenly another set of substitutions which pushed Fellows back, and left Robinson marooned in midfield. Madness, no midfield and 5 forwards waiting for the ball. No way was that Championship level management.

Aribo is unfit and certainly not the saviour.

Changes are required.

Neither do I. Woods at least cares to react like that. Better than some of the cowards.

[RedArmy]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

It seems bizarre to have players to play 4-2-3-1 say it’s your favourite formation and want to play it, but not do it, especially when it’s clear what we are doing isn’t working 

Fairly sure he even made it clear in the pre game press conference that he’d probably change to 4-2-3-1 mid game when 3CBs inevitably wasn’t working. Which is exactly what happened.  
 

Should have had more bollocks and done it from the start. 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Micky said:

Agree with this other than trying to find a striker, which is generally pretty difficult to do in the January window. Forget promotion, ditch Still, bring in someone to stabilise us this season and go again next season. Break the bank and use the budget on the spine of the side, a proven striker, goalkeeper and defensive midfielder. We have enough quality to build around that. This season is done, we need to look to next season to get this club sorted out.

We can easily get a bit of presence on loan up top. It shouldn't be a challenge to get a tall bloke with a bit of mobility to put himself about a bit better than Downs.

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, ant said:

Doesn't match my experience. 

Multiple chants of "you're not fit to wear the shirt" towards the end and after - including during one of our final corners. 

Might have imagined it, but fairly sure Wood got pissed off about it. 

One or two renditions of "sacked in the morning". Then at the final whistle "Sports Republic, get out of our club" got a couple more decent rounds.

When Still came over after the final whistle the boos were venomous. 

Overall thought the crowd pitched it about right today. Timeless chants like "Southampton til I die" rather than much about the current day. 

Saved any poison for the most dire moments. Definitely less soft and accepting than we normally are.

Great to hear. Wood did indeed have a pop at the Itchen coming off. I thought he spat in their direction as well, but maybe just me. Video posted on here of it.

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Still will go but there's so many decisions that have got us to this point unrelated to the manager. Signing Downs as the only striker, giving Stephens a 3 year contract, not signing championship experience where it counts, bringing Trollope in who failed previously along with keeping idiots like Lallana, not signing a keeper. The new manager whoever they are needs to keep things very simple and clear. We need to play the best players in their proper positions with no dicking about and then we need to buy a new striker as early as possible in January. 

Yes, forget about all the analytical shite of a false (insert number), five, four, three at the back etc., with a grand total of two shots on target ,at home, it's glaringly obvious, and has been since Ing's departure, that we need someone who can find the back of the net.

[obelisk]

Another exciting relegation 6 pointer next weekend then. Can hardly wait.

[die Mannyschaft]

Has Still gone?

What a pile of crap 

Can't defend 

Can't close down

Can't shoot on header towards goal.

Slow

Worse than last season 

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

4 minutes ago, redkeith said:

We are getting worse each week. 

We are. And on reflection, it's quite sad that SR are presiding over this decline and not doing anything about it. 

I am looking forward to being at Lotus Road on Wednesday. Either we'll have a new manager or lots on anger directed at these misfits.

And fwiw, I think Wood is one of the few that cares. 

[Patrick Bateman]

Just now, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

We are. And on reflection, it's quite sad that SR are presiding over this decline and not doing anything about it. 

I am looking forward to being at Lotus Road on Wednesday. Either we'll have a new manager or lots on anger directed at these misfits.

And fwiw, I think Wood is one of the few that cares. 

Agreed with all that.

[Mboto Gorge]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Great to hear. Wood did indeed have a pop at the Itchen coming off. I thought he spat in their direction as well, but maybe just me. Video posted on here of it.

Ridiculous that these precious little flowers are so mollycoddled they believe that relentless incompetence on the pitch won’t be complained about eventually in the stands. 

[East Kent Saint]

This is the end my beautiful friend the end 

Lost inside the black hole ,dropping down the edge , fading away in shadow , is this where it ends ?

This is the end ....

 

 

[SambaMaverick]

For me, the Wood thing is not a big deal. As others say, someone reacting when you're telling them you don't care or aren't good enough is perfectly natural.

[derry]

At half time Still got it half right. Edwards off, Fellows on. He then added Robinson but the shape was wrong. Scienza and Fellows needed to hug the touchlines with Robinson and Armstrong in front. Roerslev and Manning to play as orthodox full backs alongside the two centre backs. Instead of that we were shapeless with no balance. After that it was chaotic. Bringing on too many forwards didn't work yet again just left us wide open.

McCarthy instead of diving on the ball at the forwards feet went in feet first together with weak defending from Edwards lost the ball and conceded the goal. As far as I'm concerned Bazunu should come back at QPR with a back four, he reads the game so much better than McCarthy. 

I've had it with Will Still's negative tactics. After watching Armstrong unable to play as a lone central striker give the young lad a go with Armstrong in a 4-4-2. Downes and Jander were ok in midfield.

[Micky]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

We can easily get a bit of presence on loan up top. It shouldn't be a challenge to get a tall bloke with a bit of mobility to put himself about a bit better than Downs.

Agree to a point mate, I'm a pensioners and I would back myself to score before Downs does...!  But we need to address the striker problem seriously this time and make that 'Rickie Lambert' signing like we did last time we were in the shit.

[Master Bates]

No instant fix he said in his post match interview 

Edited yesterday at 17:47 by Master Bates

[die Mannyschaft]

[Baird of the land]

1 minute ago, Master Bates said:

No instant fix he said in his post match interview 

Sacking him would fix a lot.

[die Mannyschaft]

9 minutes ago, gallaghert366@yahoo.com said:

Yes, forget about all the analytical shite of a false (insert number), five, four, three at the back etc., with a grand total of two shots on target ,at home, it's glaringly obvious, and has been since Ing's departure, that we need someone who can find the back of the net.

Rubbish tactics, useless football. 

[Saint_clark]

Still interview; 

First half - frustrated, first goal typifies the non belief and lack of intensity that we have. Lost the ball on the half way line for no reason, defend the box really poorly which we're doing too often. The second, two extra men in the box and we've not tracked, not tackled, not done anything. As long as we keep doing this we're not gonna get any results. 

Blackmore: it's an indictment of the players but also of you, because it's you're job to get them doing that. Still: yeah...that's the way the world works. 

Avoids the question about the board backing him. 

Blackmore asks what the fix is, Still says if there was an instant fix he would have done it. Couple of small slips of the tongue that suggest he may be gone already, saying "we didn't have the time to do everything that we wanted". 

Then he avoids the leading question from Blackmore trying to get him to blame it on the recruitment. 

[DrunkenSaint]

Utter shambles as always, i still think that SR are getting involved way to much in tactics and formation and it wont change unless they either sell up or butt out. Will Still is out of his depth but i dont really know a manager who can come in and sort this crap out, we have a poor defence and non existent strike force. We need a manager with some balls and play a mixture of the youth (who will want to impress) and some of the first team for experience and try to avoid relegation and start again next season.   

[Micky]

1 minute ago, Master Bates said:

No instant fix he said in his post match interview 

Doesn't make any sense, we can, and have, done an instant fuck up, but we can't do an instant fix.easily. Typical football manager speak.

[Saint_clark]

Just now, Micky said:

Doesn't make any sense, we can, and have, done an instant fuck up, but we can't do an instant fix.easily. Typical football manager speak.

We've been shit defensively going back years, including under Martin getting promotion. That's not an instant fuck up. 

[Wade Garrett]

We look a rabble.  Never seen such a poorly coached team.  

Still is like a fucking Tyro League manager going from 5 at the back (6 including Downes) to 6 up front.  He is absolutely fucking clueless.

[Hopper]

True it’s been a deep rot.

[Baird of the land]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

We look a rabble.  Never seen such a poorly coached team.  

Still is like a fucking Tyro League manager going from 5 at the back (6 including Downes) to 6 up front.  He is absolutely fucking clueless.

Makes me laugh him going on about the team not tracking for the 2nd goal. Could the shapeless mess of his subs have played some part in that.

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Micky said:

Agree to a point mate, I'm a pensioners and I would back myself to score before Downs does...!  But we need to address the striker problem seriously this time and make that 'Rickie Lambert' signing like we did last time we were in the shit.

That's unlikely in January. The objective now is to not get relegated and put a bit of a run together to give us momentum for a big push next year. Hopefully if we get someone good in now we can put something together for next year. Feels unlikely at the moment admittedly but I've made my peace with Still leaving now.

[RedArmy]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

We've been shit defensively going back years, including under Martin getting promotion. That's not an instant fuck up. 

Yep and I think most would have tolerated it taking a bit longer to sort our defensive frailties as long as the attacking side of things were much better and the results were there. 
 

Granted he didn’t have a centre forward worth a wank but the style didn’t help one bit. 

[Hawkswood]

32 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Didn’t Brentford play a similar style to what we’re playing now? Has this got a if it isn’t broken break it paw prints all over it?

I honestly cant remember how Brentford played. So you also think there's interference behind the scenes ?

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

We've been shit defensively going back years, including under Martin getting promotion. That's not an instant fuck up. 

That’s why I’d go with Pulis until the end of the season. Won’t be pretty but the GD will be a lot better and enough to stay up. Move upstairs to DoF and Tony appoints a new younger manager for the next couple of seasons.

Local and I think he’d take it on. Likes the club and I trust his judgement far more than anyone in SR.

[Saint_clark]

Just now, RedArmy said:

Yep and I think most would have tolerated it taking a bit longer to sort our defensive frailties as long as the attacking side of things were much better and the results were there. 
 

Granted he didn’t have a centre forward worth a wank but the style didn’t help one bit. 

Whoever signed off on Stewart being reliably fit needs sacking.