Tonda Eckert

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

I have come to the conclusion that these owners are treating our club as one big experiment. Some people with weird ideas have persuaded someone with money to burn/launder/offset/dispose/throw away to have a big of fun. 

We are a rich man's toy.

He won’t be rich for much longer letting Rasmus run riot. Kicked off his own company board seemingly as well.

[MarkSFC]

Analyse this you SR Managerial twats....

Appointed Interim Manger

W W W W L... 12/15 pts (80% win ratio)

Appointed FT Manager

W W L D L D L L...8/24 (25% win ratio over more games. 

Last 6 win ratio (0%) versus first 6 win ratio (83.33%)

Xg means sweet f.a.. 

Goals and points are the ONLY stats that matter.

 

[badgerx16]

15 minutes ago, MarkSFC said:

Analyse this you SR Managerial twats....

Appointed Interim Manger

W W W W L... 12/15 pts (80% win ratio)

Appointed FT Manager

W W L D L D L L...8/24 (25% win ratio over more games. 

Last 6 win ratio (0%) versus first 6 win ratio (83.33%)

Xg means sweet f.a.. 

Goals and points are the ONLY stats that matter.

 

It's slightly worse than that - FT manager has another draw in the list: WWLDLDDLL, 9/27,  win ratio 22%. Last 7 win ratio 0%.

Edited 3 hours ago by badgerx16

[BotleySaint]

42 minutes ago, MarkSFC said:

Analyse this you SR Managerial twats....

Appointed Interim Manger

W W W W L... 12/15 pts (80% win ratio)

 

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

It's not just the wins though it's also the standard of football we served up which was almost unplayable for our opponents. You surely can't fluke 6 wins from 8 or whatever the actual figures were. Hard to make sense of it and I get that people claim he's a one trick pony and teams found a way to stop us but surely the fall in levels and results shouldn't have been so extreme. 

[coalman]

10 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

The first win was luck. We were dreadful. The next few were down to other teams not pressing us and allowing us to play and we won it in the first half before they adapted. Since then anyone playing Saints knows exactly how to set up.

The latest defeat was could be considered a bit unlucky on the balance of chances created. Except we committed suicide with our defending to convert what should have been a win into a narrow defeat.

[coalman]

https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/video/eckert-on-first-home-defeat

Wow. That body language is shocking. More bollocks about there being two different games. Didn't have much to say at half time because we created so many chances. The interviewer sounds like someone talking to someone on suicide watch that desperately wants not to be the one that pushes their interviewee over the edge.

[Willo of Whiteley]

3 hours ago, DT said:

I'll save that new analyst some time.

We're shit, with terrible players, a manager who has no experience, and with a toxic underbelly of cliqueyness and no grounding in the basics of playing football or team spirit. But it's okay because Rasmus Ankersen.

That is pretty damning and accurate, cannot fault that.

I wonder if the fan advisory panel have been as direct?

[Willo of Whiteley]

It is the classic “if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry”, so I’ve decided to find this continuously and endlessly hilarious from now on.

It takes me back to the old Pompey Takeover Saga days, where every day was a news day and a funny one.

Sport Republic are shambolic. 😂

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, BotleySaint said:

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

We weren’t performing well during these wins, you could see that eventually things would change for the worse if we didn’t sort our shit out. 

[Mboto Gorge]

13 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

That is pretty damning and accurate, cannot fault that.

I wonder if the fan advisory panel have been as direct?

It’s purely coincidental that those picked to be on the FAB just so happen to be 100% compliant, passive , nodding dogs. What were the chances?

[tdmickey3]

2 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

It’s purely coincidental that those picked to be on the FAB just so happen to be 100% compliant, passive , nodding dogs. What were the chances?

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Mboto Gorge said:

It’s purely coincidental that those picked to be on the FAB just so happen to be 100% compliant, passive , nodding dogs. What were the chances?

These fan advisory boards, or fan on the board nonsense are just that. They're never going to be people who push back, question, critique - they're nodding dogs. Yes men, in the same way as the coaching staff and management are. It's a club of nodding dogs.

Apparently they had a meeting with Spors when Tonda was interim, and during that meeting he explicitly told them that Tonda was remaining interim. So...logic dictates that the FAB should be pushing back massively at this point, demanding another meeting, and asking why they were blatantly lied to.

But they won't, because they're still nodding.

[Mboto Gorge]

7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

These fan advisory boards, or fan on the board nonsense are just that. They're never going to be people who push back, question, critique - they're nodding dogs. Yes men, in the same way as the coaching staff and management are. It's a club of nodding dogs.

Apparently they had a meeting with Spors when Tonda was interim, and during that meeting he explicitly told them that Tonda was remaining interim. So...logic dictates that the FAB should be pushing back massively at this point, demanding another meeting, and asking why they were blatantly lied to.

But they won't, because they're still nodding.

Oh 100%, and It also says a lot about the sort of person Spors is. Another egotistical, arrogant piece of work who has no regard for the fans of this club who only wants to hear praise and thinks he’s above any comeback or criticism, completely non-transparent just like his bosses. Hence only wanting to talk during a brief purple patch. I can’t stand him already

Edited 53 minutes ago by Mboto Gorge

[S-Clarke]

5 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Oh 100%, and It also says a lot about the sort of person Spors is. Another egotistical, arrogant piece of work who has no regard for the fans of this club who only wants to hear praise and thinks he’s above any comeback or criticism, completely non-transparent just like his bosses. Hence only wanting to talk during a brief purple patch. I can’t stand him already

I gave them a tiny bit of rope in the summer when we got rid of Rusk and brought Still in early doors.

We had a new scouting setup, new DoF, we seemed to have a direction. I was somewhat optimistic and maybe curious about how the summer would pan out.

I'd say my optimism was totally erased the moment they gave Stephens the new contract, because that demonstrated that even these new people don't get it. That contract renewal in isolation wasn't a problem, it was more of what it signified - happy with mediocrity and carry on with what didn't work before.

That decision kind of told me nothing would change, and we were heading into the same groundhog cycle.

Edited 48 minutes ago by S-Clarke

[sadoldgit]

11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

These fan advisory boards, or fan on the board nonsense are just that. They're never going to be people who push back, question, critique - they're nodding dogs. Yes men, in the same way as the coaching staff and management are. It's a club of nodding dogs.

Apparently they had a meeting with Spors when Tonda was interim, and during that meeting he explicitly told them that Tonda was remaining interim. So...logic dictates that the FAB should be pushing back massively at this point, demanding another meeting, and asking why they were blatantly lied to.

But they won't, because they're still nodding.

Playing devil’s advocate, isn’t it possible that he was being honest but when they couldn’t get the person they wanted and following his good start, the situation changed?

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

Playing devil’s advocate, isn’t it possible that he was being honest but when they couldn’t get the person they wanted and following his good start, the situation changed?

Nah, they always wanted to give it to Tonda. There was no one else. You don't skip the current first team coaches and give the U21 the interim role unless he's not high on their wish list.

Let's be clear, we weren't stuck with a choice of a 32 year old kid whose never managed and no one else. They didn't even bother looking.

Edited 46 minutes ago by S-Clarke

[DT]

I suspect they gave Stephens a new contract because he said if they didn't he would sulk, beat his fists a bit on the floor, and that his fwends Flynn and 'Armo' would too, and take their ball with them. 

They're in charge.

Edited 46 minutes ago by DT

[Harry_SFC]

14 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Nah, they always wanted to give it to Tonda. There was no one else. You don't skip the current first team coaches and give the U21 the interim role unless he's not high on their wish list.

Let's be clear, we weren't stuck with a choice of a 32 year old kid whose never managed and no one else. They didn't even bother looking.

David Ornstein put a piece out claiming Tonda was a concrete option as soon as Still was sacked. Once he picked up 2 or 3 wins it was nailed on I think. Even Sports said they wanted it wrapped up sooner but it took longer due to work permit problems. 

At the end of the day Spors and Tonda are mates - it was always going to happen. And yes you're right. Trollope certainly or even Lallana would have made more sense for an interim role.

Edited 30 minutes ago by Harry_SFC

[Toadhall Saint]

54 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It is the classic “if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry”, so I’ve decided to find this continuously and endlessly hilarious from now on.

It takes me back to the old Pompey Takeover Saga days, where every day was a news day and a funny one.

Sport Republic are shambolic. 😂

So who were you in the past? 

[Lord Duckhunter]

With hindsight we should have backed Juric & let him kick out the toxic element of the dressing room. Should have told them, this blokes here for next season regardless of whether we go down. He could have then be part of the process of kicking these twats out. The problem was, the twats remained, and they’ve still not been dealt with because they all start again with a clean slate.  It’s all well and good calling for a Pulis or similar to knock them into shape for the rest of the season, but nobody will be able to, unless it’s clear that the new bloke is here for a longer run & if results suffer because he drops a bad apple or two so be it…

[Mboto Gorge]

This is the crux of it. I can’t speak for everybody but for me, I’d 100% prefer to get behind and support a team who weren’t very good and lacked ability, BUT always gave 100%, were organised and played to the best of their ability, over lazy, half arsed toxic dross like we are currently seeing. It becomes impossible to get behind people who clearly aren’t doing their best or even attempting to. Makes you not want to pay to watch people not giving their all.