Tonda Eckert

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

I have come to the conclusion that these owners are treating our club as one big experiment. Some people with weird ideas have persuaded someone with money to burn/launder/offset/dispose/throw away to have a big of fun. 

We are a rich man's toy.

He won’t be rich for much longer letting Rasmus run riot. Kicked off his own company board seemingly as well.

[MarkSFC]

Analyse this you SR Managerial twats....

Appointed Interim Manger

W W W W L... 12/15 pts (80% win ratio)

Appointed FT Manager

W W L D L D L L...8/24 (25% win ratio over more games. 

Last 6 win ratio (0%) versus first 6 win ratio (83.33%)

Xg means sweet f.a.. 

Goals and points are the ONLY stats that matter.

 

[badgerx16]

15 minutes ago, MarkSFC said:

Analyse this you SR Managerial twats....

Appointed Interim Manger

W W W W L... 12/15 pts (80% win ratio)

Appointed FT Manager

W W L D L D L L...8/24 (25% win ratio over more games. 

Last 6 win ratio (0%) versus first 6 win ratio (83.33%)

Xg means sweet f.a.. 

Goals and points are the ONLY stats that matter.

 

It's slightly worse than that - FT manager has another draw in the list: WWLDLDDLL, 9/27,  win ratio 22%. Last 7 win ratio 0%.

Edited yesterday at 12:04 by badgerx16

[BotleySaint]

42 minutes ago, MarkSFC said:

Analyse this you SR Managerial twats....

Appointed Interim Manger

W W W W L... 12/15 pts (80% win ratio)

 

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

It's not just the wins though it's also the standard of football we served up which was almost unplayable for our opponents. You surely can't fluke 6 wins from 8 or whatever the actual figures were. Hard to make sense of it and I get that people claim he's a one trick pony and teams found a way to stop us but surely the fall in levels and results shouldn't have been so extreme. 

[coalman]

10 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

The first win was luck. We were dreadful. The next few were down to other teams not pressing us and allowing us to play and we won it in the first half before they adapted. Since then anyone playing Saints knows exactly how to set up.

The latest defeat was could be considered a bit unlucky on the balance of chances created. Except we committed suicide with our defending to convert what should have been a win into a narrow defeat.

[coalman]

https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/video/eckert-on-first-home-defeat

Wow. That body language is shocking. More bollocks about there being two different games. Didn't have much to say at half time because we created so many chances. The interviewer sounds like someone talking to someone on suicide watch that desperately wants not to be the one that pushes their interviewee over the edge.

[Willo of Whiteley]

3 hours ago, DT said:

I'll save that new analyst some time.

We're shit, with terrible players, a manager who has no experience, and with a toxic underbelly of cliqueyness and no grounding in the basics of playing football or team spirit. But it's okay because Rasmus Ankersen.

That is pretty damning and accurate, cannot fault that.

I wonder if the fan advisory panel have been as direct?

[Willo of Whiteley]

It is the classic “if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry”, so I’ve decided to find this continuously and endlessly hilarious from now on.

It takes me back to the old Pompey Takeover Saga days, where every day was a news day and a funny one.

Sport Republic are shambolic. 😂

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, BotleySaint said:

It remains an oddity to me how he managed these wins. 

Was it just blind luck?

We weren’t performing well during these wins, you could see that eventually things would change for the worse if we didn’t sort our shit out. 

[Mboto Gorge]

13 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

That is pretty damning and accurate, cannot fault that.

I wonder if the fan advisory panel have been as direct?

It’s purely coincidental that those picked to be on the FAB just so happen to be 100% compliant, passive , nodding dogs. What were the chances?

[tdmickey3]

2 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

It’s purely coincidental that those picked to be on the FAB just so happen to be 100% compliant, passive , nodding dogs. What were the chances?

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Mboto Gorge said:

It’s purely coincidental that those picked to be on the FAB just so happen to be 100% compliant, passive , nodding dogs. What were the chances?

These fan advisory boards, or fan on the board nonsense are just that. They're never going to be people who push back, question, critique - they're nodding dogs. Yes men, in the same way as the coaching staff and management are. It's a club of nodding dogs.

Apparently they had a meeting with Spors when Tonda was interim, and during that meeting he explicitly told them that Tonda was remaining interim. So...logic dictates that the FAB should be pushing back massively at this point, demanding another meeting, and asking why they were blatantly lied to.

But they won't, because they're still nodding.

[Mboto Gorge]

7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

These fan advisory boards, or fan on the board nonsense are just that. They're never going to be people who push back, question, critique - they're nodding dogs. Yes men, in the same way as the coaching staff and management are. It's a club of nodding dogs.

Apparently they had a meeting with Spors when Tonda was interim, and during that meeting he explicitly told them that Tonda was remaining interim. So...logic dictates that the FAB should be pushing back massively at this point, demanding another meeting, and asking why they were blatantly lied to.

But they won't, because they're still nodding.

Oh 100%, and It also says a lot about the sort of person Spors is. Another egotistical, arrogant piece of work who has no regard for the fans of this club who only wants to hear praise and thinks he’s above any comeback or criticism, completely non-transparent just like his bosses. Hence only wanting to talk during a brief purple patch. I can’t stand him already

Edited yesterday at 14:15 by Mboto Gorge

[S-Clarke]

5 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Oh 100%, and It also says a lot about the sort of person Spors is. Another egotistical, arrogant piece of work who has no regard for the fans of this club who only wants to hear praise and thinks he’s above any comeback or criticism, completely non-transparent just like his bosses. Hence only wanting to talk during a brief purple patch. I can’t stand him already

I gave them a tiny bit of rope in the summer when we got rid of Rusk and brought Still in early doors.

We had a new scouting setup, new DoF, we seemed to have a direction. I was somewhat optimistic and maybe curious about how the summer would pan out.

I'd say my optimism was totally erased the moment they gave Stephens the new contract, because that demonstrated that even these new people don't get it. That contract renewal in isolation wasn't a problem, it was more of what it signified - happy with mediocrity and carry on with what didn't work before.

That decision kind of told me nothing would change, and we were heading into the same groundhog cycle.

Edited yesterday at 14:20 by S-Clarke

[sadoldgit]

11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

These fan advisory boards, or fan on the board nonsense are just that. They're never going to be people who push back, question, critique - they're nodding dogs. Yes men, in the same way as the coaching staff and management are. It's a club of nodding dogs.

Apparently they had a meeting with Spors when Tonda was interim, and during that meeting he explicitly told them that Tonda was remaining interim. So...logic dictates that the FAB should be pushing back massively at this point, demanding another meeting, and asking why they were blatantly lied to.

But they won't, because they're still nodding.

Playing devil’s advocate, isn’t it possible that he was being honest but when they couldn’t get the person they wanted and following his good start, the situation changed?

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

Playing devil’s advocate, isn’t it possible that he was being honest but when they couldn’t get the person they wanted and following his good start, the situation changed?

Nah, they always wanted to give it to Tonda. There was no one else. You don't skip the current first team coaches and give the U21 the interim role unless he's not high on their wish list.

Let's be clear, we weren't stuck with a choice of a 32 year old kid whose never managed and no one else. They didn't even bother looking.

Edited yesterday at 14:22 by S-Clarke

[DT]

I suspect they gave Stephens a new contract because he said if they didn't he would sulk, beat his fists a bit on the floor, and that his fwends Flynn and 'Armo' would too, and take their ball with them. 

They're in charge.

Edited yesterday at 14:22 by DT

[Harry_SFC]

14 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Nah, they always wanted to give it to Tonda. There was no one else. You don't skip the current first team coaches and give the U21 the interim role unless he's not high on their wish list.

Let's be clear, we weren't stuck with a choice of a 32 year old kid whose never managed and no one else. They didn't even bother looking.

David Ornstein put a piece out claiming Tonda was a concrete option as soon as Still was sacked. Once he picked up 2 or 3 wins it was nailed on I think. Even Sports said they wanted it wrapped up sooner but it took longer due to work permit problems. 

At the end of the day Spors and Tonda are mates - it was always going to happen. And yes you're right. Trollope certainly or even Lallana would have made more sense for an interim role.

Edited yesterday at 14:37 by Harry_SFC

[Toadhall Saint]

54 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It is the classic “if you don’t laugh, you’ll cry”, so I’ve decided to find this continuously and endlessly hilarious from now on.

It takes me back to the old Pompey Takeover Saga days, where every day was a news day and a funny one.

Sport Republic are shambolic. 😂

So who were you in the past? 

[Lord Duckhunter]

With hindsight we should have backed Juric & let him kick out the toxic element of the dressing room. Should have told them, this blokes here for next season regardless of whether we go down. He could have then be part of the process of kicking these twats out. The problem was, the twats remained, and they’ve still not been dealt with because they all start again with a clean slate.  It’s all well and good calling for a Pulis or similar to knock them into shape for the rest of the season, but nobody will be able to, unless it’s clear that the new bloke is here for a longer run & if results suffer because he drops a bad apple or two so be it…

[Mboto Gorge]

This is the crux of it. I can’t speak for everybody but for me, I’d 100% prefer to get behind and support a team who weren’t very good and lacked ability, BUT always gave 100%, were organised and played to the best of their ability, over lazy, half arsed toxic dross like we are currently seeing. It becomes impossible to get behind people who clearly aren’t doing their best or even attempting to. Makes you not want to pay to watch people not giving their all. 

[Dr Who?]

8 hours ago, Football Special said:

Great to see more recruits from our favourite league Bundesliga 2

 

Seriously I cannot do this anymore, wtf 🤬 

[Dr Who?]

What the blue half are saying! 
 

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouthfc-news-tondaeckert-southampton-hull-willstill-frattonpark-southcoastderby-5479993?cx_testId=1&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=2&cx_experienceId=EX4XFGK573FX&cx_experienceActionId=showRecommendationsDT2H7FXWWFOG8#cxrecs_s

Edited yesterday at 15:25 by Dr Who?

[Willo of Whiteley]

I don’t think Juric would’ve been beneficial in anyway.

There was no noticeable change in style of play or aggression or attacking intent after he joined or during his tenure.

He was no different to Tonda Eckhart in the grand scheme of things.

You could argue that sticking with Russell Martin would’ve been the way to go. Look at Ipswich, still with Kieron McKenna - they started slow but will win the league without a shadow of a doubt now.

[OldNick]

Im not proud to say but for the first time I booed TE and joined in with the 'you dont know what your'e doing' chant. To bring on a tall forward and take off the supply of crosses was ridiculous, ok Robinson did ok but Fellows was the only player who was driving at their defence, would have rathered taken off AA. 

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I don’t think Juric would’ve been beneficial in anyway.

There was no noticeable change in style of play or aggression or attacking intent after he joined or during his tenure.

He was no different to Tonda Eckhart in the grand scheme of things.

You could argue that sticking with Russell Martin would’ve been the way to go. Look at Ipswich, still with Kieron McKenna - they started slow but will win the league without a shadow of a doubt now.

Comparing McKenna to the RM situation is way off the mark. McKenna has so much in the bank with the Ipswich fans, in my opinion RM was never really being all the fans favourite by the way he plays. 

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said:

David Ornstein put a piece out claiming Tonda was a concrete option as soon as Still was sacked. Once he picked up 2 or 3 wins it was nailed on I think. Even Sports said they wanted it wrapped up sooner but it took longer due to work permit problems. 

At the end of the day Spors and Tonda are mates - it was always going to happen. And yes you're right. Trollope certainly or even Lallana would have made more sense for an interim role.

Maybe they’ve agreed to split Tonda’s redundancy package.

[SWLondon Saint]

17 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I don’t think Juric would’ve been beneficial in anyway.

There was no noticeable change in style of play or aggression or attacking intent after he joined or during his tenure.

He was no different to Tonda Eckhart in the grand scheme of things.

You could argue that sticking with Russell Martin would’ve been the way to go. Look at Ipswich, still with Kieron McKenna - they started slow but will win the league without a shadow of a doubt now.

Err, absolutely not. Has Martin's stint at Rangers shown you nothing? He's a busted flush still playing his Pep tribute act best hits when even Pep has changed to have more direct options.

Not saying he was the answer, but Juric at least saw the problem - unfit players, ridiculously slack training - and bombed out a couple of what now looks like the toxic mates club in Downes and Manning. You could see what he was trying to do when we beat Ipswich at theirs, but for whatever reason he couldn't make it stick.

[Themotherfunky]

2 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Err, absolutely not. Has Martin's stint at Rangers shown you nothing? He's a busted flush still playing his Pep tribute act best hits when even Pep has changed to have more direct options.

Not saying he was the answer, but Juric at least saw the problem - unfit players, ridiculously slack training - and bombed out a couple of what now looks like the toxic mates club in Downes and Manning. You could see what he was trying to do when we beat Ipswich at theirs, but for whatever reason he couldn't make it stick.

I think Juric's style needed at least a pre-season to bed in his ideas and get them working. Saying that, these sorry sacks of shit didn't want to put in the hard work and yards that came with that style.

 Though it's also on SR for bringing him with a completely different playing style. 

[Saint86]

4 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

It’s purely coincidental that those picked to be on the FAB just so happen to be 100% compliant, passive , nodding dogs. What were the chances?

I don't know, but i'm now wondering whether any of them are on the shortlist to be the next manager 

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Err, absolutely not. Has Martin's stint at Rangers shown you nothing? He's a busted flush still playing his Pep tribute act best hits when even Pep has changed to have more direct options.

Not saying he was the answer, but Juric at least saw the problem - unfit players, ridiculously slack training - and bombed out a couple of what now looks like the toxic mates club in Downes and Manning. You could see what he was trying to do when we beat Ipswich at theirs, but for whatever reason he couldn't make it stick.

I mean, now with Russel Martin you could argue that because of his Rangers stint. But keeping someone and building a squad over time is better than scattergun chopping and changing. It’s all ifs and buts.

Juric was crap. I’m sorry but he just was.

There was nothing he did that inspired any form of difference or change. He dropped Flynn Downes when he had his sulk, that’s literally it.

I couldnt see what he was trying to do, certainly not trying to win games.

[Mr X]

22 hours ago, MarkSFC said:

Analyse this you SR Managerial twats....

Appointed Interim Manger

W W W W L... 12/15 pts (80% win ratio)

Appointed FT Manager

W W L D L D L L...8/24 (25% win ratio over more games. 

Last 6 win ratio (0%) versus first 6 win ratio (83.33%)

Xg means sweet f.a.. 

Goals and points are the ONLY stats that matter.

 

They appointed him based on a five game run! that was a huge mistake 

[Mr X]

21 hours ago, coalman said:

https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/video/eckert-on-first-home-defeat

Wow. That body language is shocking. More bollocks about there being two different games. Didn't have much to say at half time because we created so many chances. The interviewer sounds like someone talking to someone on suicide watch that desperately wants not to be the one that pushes their interviewee over the edge.

Tonda has such enthusiasm. For the team hugely dynamic and likeable....  Wow tonda two different games in your head.. How come we always end up with the losing version? 

Edited 7 hours ago by Mr X

[die Mannyschaft]

18 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Err, absolutely not. Has Martin's stint at Rangers shown you nothing? He's a busted flush still playing his Pep tribute act best hits when even Pep has changed to have more direct options.

Not saying he was the answer, but Juric at least saw the problem - unfit players, ridiculously slack training - and bombed out a couple of what now looks like the toxic mates club in Downes and Manning. You could see what he was trying to do when we beat Ipswich at theirs, but for whatever reason he couldn't make it stick.

At clubs who have managers dictitated ti by upstairs there is a pattern of players not playing for managers or not being able to apply tactics their told to do consistently.

Its becoming a pattern at Saints where the only solution is to change the manager and players at same time which is near impossible 

[Maggie May]

On 23/11/2025 at 11:55, Maggie May said:

I’m really torn. I was at the game yesterday and the first half was probably the most remarkable 45 minutes of football I’ve seen us play regardless of what league we’re in. Total dominance.  The worst part about yesterday was the queue for crap Peroni at half time. 

You’d think three wins in three, free flowing football and (finally) goals would mean Tonda is a shoo-in for the full time job. But I just can’t move away from all the times we’ve been burned before from internal appointments.  Gray, Wigley, Selles - all disasters. 

Maybe it is a case of “in Spors we trust” on this one. 

I called it.

[Jack]

Absolutely sick of him coming out in the press and claiming things that haven’t happened. Just listened to the presser for tomorrow and he’s saying that all the stats say that we should’ve beaten Hull, and lots of the other games we’ve lost.
 

So infuriating, I’m sure he’s trying to take the pressure off himself with that line but he’s only increasing it in my book. If you come out and gaslight the fans, tell them they’re seeing something that they’re not, you’re not going to last long at all. Hasn’t got a clue 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Surely if the stats say we should’ve won and we didn’t that means you’ve failed at your job?

 

[tdmickey3]

8 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Surely if the stats say we should’ve won and we didn’t that means you’ve failed at your job?

 

Don`t be so ridiculous, winning is just so old school 😉

[hypochondriac]

14 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Surely if the stats say we should’ve won and we didn’t that means you’ve failed at your job?

 

TBF he did basically say that. I do find regurgitating stats irritating. He's be better off just not mentioning them at all. At least he mentioned us looking to sign some players which would mean we can bin off some of the losers more quickly. 

Peretz 

Bree new cb THB wellington 

Charles Jander 

Fellows matsuki Scienza 

New signing

Feels better to me already.

[Jack]

10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

TBF he did basically say that. I do find regurgitating stats irritating. He's be better off just not mentioning them at all. At least he mentioned us looking to sign some players which would mean we can bin off some of the losers more quickly. 

Peretz 

Bree new cb THB wellington 

Charles Jander 

Fellows matsuki Scienza 

New signing

Feels better to me already.

He’s clearly uninterested in playing 4 at the back. His stats tell him we’re perfectly creative with the extra man in defence and our xG will turn into wins any minute now. 
 

I’d love to see his stats and analysis that back up his selections defensively, maybe the new guy has been brought in to flower those up 

[richardc]

he seems to gloss over the most important stat of no wins in 7 games

[hypochondriac]

You don't need stats to know that the football we've served up in the majority of games is turgid rubbish regardless of the result.

[Saint NL]

19 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Juric was crap. I’m sorry but he just was.

There was nothing he did that inspired any form of difference or change. He dropped Flynn Downes when he had his sulk, that’s literally it.

I couldnt see what he was trying to do, certainly not trying to win games.

We were promised Heavy Metal football.

We got the fucking Backstreet Boys 😂

[Willo of Whiteley]

I couldn’t ever see what Ivan Juric was trying to do with us. There was no distinct style of play or anything like that. He was poor.

Will Still was just very bland in terms of his style. Slow, horrible. But I did clock how for him it was about just chucking crosses in there and hoping something would come off.

Tonda’s tactics just involved slow sideways passing across the back, whip into a CM, quick one-twos between another CM and ST dropping deep and then someone running through. The problem is, that was sussed about seven weeks ago, and there’s been nothing different since.

All too predictable

[Appy]

Just punt him ASAP, he’s past the point where anyone is going to change their opinion on him, he’s not suddenly going to become the man who turns it around, it’s not his fault for taking the gig, he’s a lamb to slaughter. 

[Mboto Gorge]

The more he keeps quoting stats and other hard luck stories based on data, the more he’s going to piss everyone off and make his position among the fans worse than it already is