January Transfer Window

[Göztepe]

8 hours ago, disconnect said:

It's a shame we've had both Roerslev and Jelert (who looked especially promising, but definitely underutilised by Still) injured at the same time. I think get one of those back, get Fellows starting further forward and possibly move to a back 4 and we'll be looking much better. Agree that Bree has been solid, but in a couple of weeks could have 2 good right backs at this level already without the need for Bree to return.

Playing with a four-man defense is a mistake when the center-backs and full-backs are short. Fellows can carry the ball from defense to attack all by himself, playing the role of two players on the right side.

[Convict Colony]

6 hours ago, Göztepe said:

Playing with a four-man defense is a mistake when the center-backs and full-backs are short. Fellows can carry the ball from defense to attack all by himself, playing the role of two players on the right side.

I wouldnt call our CBs short, crap but not short.

And anyway if we had 2 cbs in a 4 formation i would risk it being THB and Quarshie pairing and he's massive.

Edited yesterday at 08:52 by Convict Colony

[Osvaldorama]

6 hours ago, Göztepe said:

Playing with a four-man defense is a mistake when the center-backs and full-backs are short. Fellows can carry the ball from defense to attack all by himself, playing the role of two players on the right side.

It’s rubbish Tonda 

[benali-shorts]

7 hours ago, Göztepe said:

Playing with a four-man defense is a mistake when the center-backs and full-backs are short. Fellows can carry the ball from defense to attack all by himself, playing the role of two players on the right side.

I think it's less about height and more about physical and mental strength. This lot are feeble in both regards. Wood & Bazanu are silent; Harwood-Bellis too quick to moan at others whilst repeating the same mistakes himself. That Stephens is considered worth playing due to his leadership skills says it all about the others' deficiencies. 

We were promised the requisite physicality for our new signings - I see technical improvements in Leo, Fellows and Jander, but no physical nor mental improvements. This lot are only going to get worse and worse, as they have done for each of the last 4 years. A dire second half of the season awaits I fear. 

[John B]

I think the recruitment has been ok recently but getting the elusive decent Centre Forward which we have been trying to recruit for so long would no doubt make us a far better team

The full back situation needs to be improved although injuries have not helped there

 

 

[John B]

1 hour ago, benali-shorts said:

I think it's less about height and more about physical and mental strength. This lot are feeble in both regards. Wood & Bazanu are silent; Harwood-Bellis too quick to moan at others whilst repeating the same mistakes himself. That Stephens is considered worth playing due to his leadership skills says it all about the others' deficiencies. 

We were promised the requisite physicality for our new signings - I see technical improvements in Leo, Fellows and Jander, but no physical nor mental improvements. This lot are only going to get worse and worse, as they have done for each of the last 4 years. A dire second half of the season awaits I fear. 

Get in three new starters and I think you will be proved wrong as our bench looks particularly week

[S-Clarke]

9 hours ago, Göztepe said:

Playing with a four-man defense is a mistake when the center-backs and full-backs are short. Fellows can carry the ball from defense to attack all by himself, playing the role of two players on the right side.

But our CB's aren't short. They're within the normal ranges of heights expected from CB's. I don't know what you're getting at here. 

Proclaiming that we have to play 5 at the back because our CB's are short/poor is just so flawed. Formations aren't there to cover gaps in quality or individual limitations in players, they're there to bring the best out of the players you have. The fix for individual limitations/gaps in quality is to improve them with recruitment.

[Göztepe]

20 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Ama bizim stoperlerimiz kısa değil. Stoperlerden beklenen normal boy aralıklarındalar. Burada ne demek istediğinizi anlamıyorum. 

Stoperlerimizin yetersiz/kötü olması nedeniyle 5'li savunma oynamamız gerektiğini söylemek son derece hatalı bir yaklaşım. Dizilişler, oyuncuların kalitesindeki eksiklikleri veya bireysel sınırlamalarını kapatmak için değil, sahip olduğunuz oyunculardan en iyi performansı almak için vardır. Bireysel sınırlamaların/kalite eksikliklerinin çözümü ise transferlerle onları geliştirmektir.

Stephens and Edwards are too short for a 1.85m center back. Anyone under 1.88m is too short for a center back. Manning and Jelert are too short for a four-man full-back, especially since Jelert gets overwhelmed in a four-man defense.

https://x.com/SoletLang/status/1962239171130466787?s=20

[jemanson]

10 minutes ago, Göztepe said:

Stephens and Edwards are too short for a 1.85m center back. Anyone under 1.88m is too short for a center back. Manning and Jelert are too short for a four-man full-back, especially since Jelert gets overwhelmed in a four-man defense.

https://x.com/SoletLang/status/1962239171130466787?s=20

But we could play two of Quarshie, Wood and Harwood-Bellis (apparently 1.96m, 1.88m and 1.88m respectively) and be okay height-wise? I'd guess most fans would rather have an extra midfielder in the team, providing additional cover for the defence and/or more creativity going forward. I'd rather have Bragg looking to play through balls than any of the CBs, for example.

[S-Clarke]

35 minutes ago, Göztepe said:

Stephens and Edwards are too short for a 1.85m center back. Anyone under 1.88m is too short for a center back. 

https://x.com/SoletLang/status/1962239171130466787?s=20

Someone better tell Fabio Cannavaro, Thiago Silva, Baresi and Puyol then.

[danjosaint]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

Someone better tell Fabio Cannavaro, Thiago Silva, Baresi and Puyol then.

Nesta, Costacurta, Terry, Hierro and Kohler all no good as they were an inch off 

[Göztepe]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

O zaman birisi bunu Fabio Cannavaro, Thiago Silva, Baresi ve Puyol'a söylese iyi olur.

These footballers are rare examples and from a bygone era. How many teams today play a 1.75m tall center-back and a 1.75m lone striker? A three-man defense is a formation that compensates for the shortness of defenders, while formations like 3-1-4-2 or 3-5-2 with a central midfield compensate for the shortness of midfielders. Teams playing with a two-man central midfield should use two number 8s, with an average height of 1.85m, to cover the area effectively. In a 3-1-4-2 or 3-5-2, it could be one tall number 6 and two shorter number 8s, or one short number 6 and two tall number 8s.

[John B]

2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Someone better tell Fabio Cannavaro, Thiago Silva, Baresi and Puyol then.

I realise that any on here never saw Bobby Moore our 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) play in the 1966 World Cup Final

[rooney]

2 hours ago, John B said:

I realise that any on here never saw Bobby Moore our 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) play in the 1966 World Cup Final

I saw him😊

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Göztepe said:

These footballers are rare examples and from a bygone era. How many teams today play a 1.75m tall center-back and a 1.75m lone striker? A three-man defense is a formation that compensates for the shortness of defenders, while formations like 3-1-4-2 or 3-5-2 with a central midfield compensate for the shortness of midfielders. Teams playing with a two-man central midfield should use two number 8s, with an average height of 1.85m, to cover the area effectively. In a 3-1-4-2 or 3-5-2, it could be one tall number 6 and two shorter number 8s, or one short number 6 and two tall number 8s.

Thiago Silva, a bygone era? He was still playing in the Premier league just over a year ago 😂

[Holmes_and_Watson]

5 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Someone better tell Fabio Cannavaro, Thiago Silva, Baresi and Puyol then.

 

3 hours ago, danjosaint said:

Nesta, Costacurta, Terry, Hierro and Kohler all no good as they were an inch off 

 

2 hours ago, John B said:

I realise that any on here never saw Bobby Moore our 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) play in the 1966 World Cup Final

None of them getting picked now. Must be their height. 🙂

[Ken Tone]

Are there any actual transfer rumours,  as opposed to fans' wish lists? 

[Tommy Mulgrew]

16 hours ago, Göztepe said:

Playing with a four-man defense is a mistake when the center-backs and full-backs are short. Fellows can carry the ball from defense to attack all by himself, playing the role of two players on the right side.

 

6 hours ago, Göztepe said:

Stephens and Edwards are too short for a 1.85m center back. Anyone under 1.88m is too short for a center back. Manning and Jelert are too short for a four-man full-back, especially since Jelert gets overwhelmed in a four-man defense.

https://x.com/SoletLang/status/1962239171130466787?s=20

 

4 hours ago, Göztepe said:

These footballers are rare examples and from a bygone era. How many teams today play a 1.75m tall center-back and a 1.75m lone striker? A three-man defense is a formation that compensates for the shortness of defenders, while formations like 3-1-4-2 or 3-5-2 with a central midfield compensate for the shortness of midfielders. Teams playing with a two-man central midfield should use two number 8s, with an average height of 1.85m, to cover the area effectively. In a 3-1-4-2 or 3-5-2, it could be one tall number 6 and two shorter number 8s, or one short number 6 and two tall number 8s.

Verrry Inteeerrresting!   But stupid (to rely only on a 3CB formation).

Now we know that Goztepe, the premier club in the SR franchise, dictates the way that the SR feeder clubs play and so support the premier club’s achievement of Champions League participation.  All hail Goztepe and SR.  So sorry that almost all the posters on here are apparently wrong.   ☹️

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

A goalkeeper who saves shots!!

🧠 Summary of Daniel Peretz’s Strengths

Strength	Description
Shot-stopping reflexes	Quick reactions to close and long-range shots
Penalty prowess	Excellent at saving penalties and decisive moments
Aerial command	Confident in crosses and set-piece situations
Modern distribution	Good with feet, helps build from back
Composure and leadership	Calm under pressure, directs defence

[coalman]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

A goalkeeper who saves shots!!

🧠 Summary of Daniel Peretz’s Strengths

Strength	Description
Shot-stopping reflexes	Quick reactions to close and long-range shots
Penalty prowess	Excellent at saving penalties and decisive moments
Aerial command	Confident in crosses and set-piece situations
Modern distribution	Good with feet, helps build from back
Composure and leadership	Calm under pressure, directs defence

That's got the potential of there being a lot of noise before we fail to pay the asking price then sign George Long on a permanent and extend Baz / McCarthy.

[Turkish]

32 minutes ago, coalman said:

That's got the potential of there being a lot of noise before we fail to pay the asking price then sign George Long on a permanent and extend Baz / McCarthy.

Just been reading up on him. Hes only played 5 games in 2 years after moving to Germany from Israel. Appears to have a lot of potential but very much unproven. I suspect he might be coming in as back up or competition to Baz rather than immediate replace. 

[Pamplemousse]

Personally I'd prefer Patterson. Proven at this level, and whilst Spors's recruitment has been more hit than miss, the last thing we need is the GK equivalent of Damion Downs.

Edited 2 hours ago by Pamplemousse

[for_heaven's_Saint]

14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Just been reading up on him. Hes only played 5 games in 2 years after moving to Germany from Israel. Appears to have a lot of potential but very much unproven. I suspect he might be coming in as back up or competition to Baz rather than immediate replace. 

Doesn't sound like he'd be too happy with that: 

 

"In an interview with Israeli television, Bayern Munich keeper Daniel Peretz has expressed the desire to terminate his loan deal with Hamburg early. Bayern loaned the Israeli international out to the newly promoted Bundesliga outfit on a season-long arrangement this past July. Peretz remains the Israeli national team No. 1, but has yet to log a single minute for loan club Hamburger SV. 

Peretz’s comments when speaking to Israeli channel Sport 5 are actually rather curious as it was clearly stated that Peretz was meant to compete with regular HSV starter Daniel Heuer Fernandes. Peretz delivered an especially poor training camp with HSV and, as a result, was not tapped to even earn a start in Hamburg’s opening round cup fixture. 

 

“It’s obvious that I’m disappointed that I’m not playing in Hamburg,” Peretz told the Israeli broadcaster. “I didn’t expect not to be playing. It was actually clear that I would be playing. But the things that are happening right now are no longer under my control. I am responsible for my own behavior and conduct. Maybe there will be a change in January, because I really want to play.”

[coalman]

16 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Just been reading up on him. Hes only played 5 games in 2 years after moving to Germany from Israel. Appears to have a lot of potential but very much unproven. I suspect he might be coming in as back up or competition to Baz rather than immediate replace. 

Another backup keeper that can't get in his loan side? Sign him up. That's a proper SR find.

[DT]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Just been reading up on him. Hes only played 5 games in 2 years after moving to Germany from Israel. Appears to have a lot of potential but very much unproven. I suspect he might be coming in as back up or competition to Baz rather than immediate replace. 

That would be classic Saints. ie completely incompetent.

[bugenhagen]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Just been reading up on him. Hes only played 5 games in 2 years after moving to Germany from Israel. Appears to have a lot of potential but very much unproven. I suspect he might be coming in as back up or competition to Baz rather than immediate replace.