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Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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4 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I think we'll rue Edwards not getting game time. There is a player in there.

A number of clubs were chasing him when Saints bought him.

 

I'd keep him around until at least the summer. Not least as it's strengthing what could be a play off rival, however laughable that sounds at this moment.

 

Turkish

Turkish

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49 minutes ago, Suhari said:

Didn't we pay around £3M for him? #playatradin'

He's never looked all that for us. and doesn't have the physicality needed for a top CB I don't think. Don't understand how he was seemingly so good for QPR lasy season, but never shown it for us.

Hope we reinvest in a striker.

Yep got a loan fee and a 1.5m profit and that's all that matters. As a player i think he's one we'll regret selling

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Toadhall Saint

Toadhall Saint

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16 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

You watch Edwards playing like a premier league player between now and end of next season 

 

When I’ve seen him he looked as if he would make a decent DM. Not the quickest maybe but seemed to read the game well.

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Turkish

Turkish

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9 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

 

What a team that would be 😂

I reckon that's 120m worth of talent right there, thats before go to the bench

Edozie

Larios

Lyanco

Tall Paul

Archer

Stewart

Maitland-niles and Mason Holgate as the loans

Another c60m there


What a club!

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Saint NL

Saint NL

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4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I reckon that's 120m worth of talent right there, thats before go to the bench

Edozie

Larios

Lyanco

Tall Paul

Archer

Stewart

Maitland-niles and Mason Holgate as the loans

Another c60m there


What a club!

Which manager are you picking for this incredible team? There are a few to choose from. 

Those boys playing Ivan's Heavy Metal Football™ would be something to behold

macca155

macca155

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I liked Edwards, and he certainly didn't get enough game time. However his performances have been pretty underwhelming. 

A good move for him but he's probably destined to be Championship level defender.

Hopefully the club have a heavyweight replacement lined up.

Is it worth waiting in to see ..... 

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Turkish

Turkish

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1 minute ago, Saint NL said:

Which manager are you picking for this incredible team? There are a few to choose from. 

Those boys playing Ivan's Heavy Metal Football™ would be something to behold

got to be Mad Nate.

Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I reckon that's 120m worth of talent right there, thats before go to the bench

Edozie

Larios

Lyanco

Tall Paul

Archer

Stewart

Maitland-niles and Mason Holgate as the loans

Another c60m there


What a club!

Starting to make West Ham look shrewd

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Oisin

Oisin

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

We play a 1 striker formation. A 4th striker isn't going to get much gametime.

It’s comments like this that reinforce everyone’s opinion of you as being a) tedious and b) an idiot with zero footballing intelligence.

We currently employee a 1 striker formation (and for starters, maybe we shouldn’t given our win ratio ever since we moved from 2 strikers under Ralph), but having just loaned out the utterly useless attempt at a number 9, currently have 1. And he is fit less than 5% of the time. ArmA and Archer are not strikers suited to a single striker formation. Every single person except you and, alarmingly, the coaching staff (or is it SR hierarchy?) who pick the team recognise this.  We don’t have a fit number 9. Of course we need one. As we have for the best part of 10 transfer windows.

Your comment is fatuous. And pedantic. Rather like you and everything you write here.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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1 hour ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I think we'll rue Edwards not getting game time. There is a player in there.

A number of clubs were chasing him when Saints bought him.

 

I agree. He's never been gi en much of a chance, certainly not an extended run in his best position which is astounding really given how crap we have been in defence.Our worst mistake this year is not trying different things when what we are doing isn't working. I reckon he will turn out great and we will regret getting rid.

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Oh no Mick Mills

Oh no Mick Mills

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1 hour ago, Colinjb said:

Not the defender we should be selling frankly. 

Disappointing.

I'm surprised so many fans rated him. 

In his 8 starts we won 2 games and I dont recall a game where he stood out. 

Easily bullied , small and slow for a CB .

Appreciate he'll now likely turn into Van Dyke for QPR but hey ho .  

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JohnnyShearer2.0

JohnnyShearer2.0

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The Saints defence has been inept all season. Harsh to judge Edwards on the handful of appearances. 

In this team he looked as good / no better than the other defenders.

Edited by JohnnyShearer2.0
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goodymatt

goodymatt

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Edwards came with a much bigger reputation than Wood. I’m surprised 18 months later that he didn’t make it and Wood plays every week. 

I have to agree he’s not looked great when he’s played. Was robbed a goal at Ewood Park to make it 2-0, he was definitely onside. Wonder if that goes in and we win that game, would Edwards and Still have found a different path?

Probably more suited to Russball than what Spors wants us to be and not tall or fast enough to give confidence he’ll make it at the top level. I think I’d have loaned for the rest of this season and made a decision in the summer though.

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qwertyell

qwertyell

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3 hours ago, Suhari said:

Didn't we pay around £3M for him? #playatradin'

He's never looked all that for us. and doesn't have the physicality needed for a top CB I don't think. Don't understand how he was seemingly so good for QPR lasy season, but never shown it for us.

Hope we reinvest in a striker.

I think this is a bit of a myth. QPR fans liked him enough to vote him young player of the season, but I'm not sure they had many other young players to choose from. 

On the pitch, their defensive record was worse with him in the team than without him. 

In a Saints shirt he's looked slow, weak, and poor in the air - and is justifiably 5th choice CB in a squad of appalling CBs. 

If we're serious about improving (it's a big if), he's not going to be an upgrade. So it makes sense to take the money and move on.

If he goes on to be Bobby Moore, good luck to him. But he's not even nearly Jack Stephens at this stage, so fuck that. 

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saintant

saintant

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3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

You watch Edwards playing like a premier league player between now and end of next season 

 

Not sure about that. He's quite short, lacks a bit of physicality and is very slow. 

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lambtiss

lambtiss

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I was really looking forward to watching Edwards after the rave reviews he attracted at QPR and the reviews whilst he was at Peterborough. Unfortunately, I was really underwhelmed. He is too short to be a commanding CB in the air which means that he has to compensate with speed and ability on the ball and decision making. However, he didn’t look particularly fast (struggled to catch up with Keiffer Moore and had to resort to giving away a penalty) and didn’t look comfortable on the ball. I couldn’t match what I was watching with the glowing reviews of his play for other clubs.


I think a parting of the ways is best for Saints, the player and QPR.

Edited by lambtiss
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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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4 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I think we'll rue Edwards not getting game time. There is a player in there.

A number of clubs were chasing him when Saints bought him.

 

He’s had more game time than Cameron Archer this season in the league btw. Doubt there would be people clamouring to get him more game time if we were being offered a profit on him by QPR.

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Pat from Poole

Pat from Poole

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I think Edwards would have been a good defensive midfielder.

He lacks the pace and strength to be a top CB, I think.

But he has skill and can pass a ball.

I would have kept him and sold one of the bad eggs Flynn Downes.

Edited by Pat from Poole
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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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Just now, Pat from Poole said:

I think Edwards would have been a good defensive midfielder.

He lacks the pace and strength to be a top CB, I think.

But he has skill and pass a ball.

I would have kept him and sold Downes.

I mean, that is just ridiculous

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macca155

macca155

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7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I mean, that is just ridiculous

You beat me to it, way too slow to be a midfielder. They all have to be box to box athletic machines these days. A half decent forward would ghost past him at ease.

It's a good sale for all concern. Hopefully he'll get more game time at QPR, and realise his potential. Good luck to him.

Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman

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39 minutes ago, Pat from Poole said:

I think Edwards would have been a good defensive midfielder.

He lacks the pace and strength to be a top CB, I think.

But he has skill and can pass a ball.

I would have kept him and sold one of the bad eggs Flynn Downes.

I wouldn't keep either of them. This squad has far too much filler still and a lot of absolute helmets who need moving on.

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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1 hour ago, qwertyell said:

In a Saints shirt he's looked slow, weak, and poor in the air - and is justifiably 5th choice CB in a squad of appalling CBs. 

Exactly. 
 

The cry seems to be, our defence is complete and utter shite, we need to shift most of them out, just not the worst one, you know, the one who can’t even get a game…we need to keep him. 

Edited by Lord Duckhunter
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HarvSFC

HarvSFC

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Edwards is a necessary sale. Can't keep hanging onto these players in the hope that one day they will become good, as spoken about before we need to be more ruthless with our squad management and those who aren't up to the standard should be shown the door. Alongside this £4.5m adds to our funds from the summer and isn't a bad fee at this level.

As we all know the summer of 2024 went wrong because we signed a load of squad players instead of improving the first eleven. Going as far as to sign two squad centre-backs in Wood and Edwards at the time. Both young, but a year and a half later and Edwards is no closer to the first team than the day he signed and has lacked any physicality and pace when played this season, which we're lacking across the team so there isn't anybody to cover up for his deficiencies here.

At the end of the day, I don't think we'll ever have a good defence if Edwards is part of it and we need to be aiming higher.

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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1 hour ago, Pat from Poole said:

I think Edwards would have been a good defensive midfielder.

He lacks the pace and strength to be a top CB, I think.

But he has skill and can pass a ball.

I would have kept him and sold one of the bad eggs Flynn Downes.

Let's see how often QPR play him midfield.

 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

Let's see how often QPR play him midfield.

 

Quite, loads to criticise SR for and it was a weird pair of signings with him and Wood preparing for the PL as a promoted side, but to move on for a small profit to a club who wants the player and he wants the move is very logical. 

Clusterfuck summer 2024 - even Fernandes had been pretty underwhelming for West Ham since leaving us and was our best player along with Ramsdale last season. Forgot he was playing Tuesday until he was subbed. Fraser, a finished Lallana, Edwards, Wood, Downes - scorchio!

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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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15 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Quite, loads to criticise SR for and it was a weird pair of signings with him and Wood preparing for the PL as a promoted side, but to move on for a small profit to a club who wants the player and he wants the move is very logical. 

Clusterfuck summer 2024 - even Fernandes had been pretty underwhelming for West Ham since leaving us and was our best player along with Ramsdale last season. Forgot he was playing Tuesday until he was subbed. Fraser, a finished Lallana, Edwards, Wood, Downes - scorchio!

Not sure that’s true. Pretty sure his performances have remained pretty consistent with when he played for us. 

bugenhagen

bugenhagen

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Exactly. 
 

The cry seems to be, our defence is complete and utter shite, we need to shift most of them out, just not the worst one, you know, the one who can’t even get a game…we need to keep him. 

Yeah, but I think it comes from the classic "whoever is not playing is the answer to our problems" syndrome that a lot of supporters usually come up with.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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11 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Not sure that’s true. Pretty sure his performances have remained pretty consistent with when he played for us. 

To clarify, I’m not saying he didn’t perform well for us last season, but the standard was so low at SFC last season that he was our shining light and and something to take a positive from. This season for West Ham he’s been mediocre at best - if generous - and it highlights that you need a superb summer window of new players just to compete stay up as a promoted club and/or one circling the drain as they and Wolves did.

Sunderland have done it tbf and Leeds might stay up too unless Nuno suddenly gets the Hammers going. My point was wondering whether we might have over-rated him very slightly (only very slightly as I think there’s a player there) because we were so rotten everywhere else.

Edited by Gloucester Saint

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