Sheff Weds vs Saints - Feb 28th - 15:00

[SuperSAINT]

Must win (again)

[AlexLaw76]

Be criminal if we don't win this.

[Saint86]

Absolutely a must win game, and to be blunt, we need to be ruthless if we can be. They're newly relegated, which will have a weird effect on them and their pride has been badly stung, so we need to be ready for a reaction... but we simply have to go for it.

Edit - i do fear that the recent relegation at their bitter rivals (and the shame of being relegated in Feb) will make this a harder game than we'd like.

Edited 19 hours ago by Saint86

[Sheaf Saint]

Aiming to do the Steel City quadruple with a win here. 

I'm wondering how their now confirmed relegation will affect them mentally. Sometimes in that situation, when the pressure is suddenly off, teams can spring a surprise on you (I'm thinking of that time we went and lost 6-2 to Derby after they had been relegated). But I don't think there ever was any pressure on Wednesday because they've surely known since the moment they got their points deduction that they were never gonna stay up.

On paper it should be an easy win. But I've been watching Saints for far too long to take anything like that for granted.

Edited 19 hours ago by Sheaf Saint

[Harry_SFC]

They are absolutely crap. Lost their two best players in January as well (amazingly Jan Valery was one of them, which says it all). Should be a comfortable win. 

Peretz, Bree, THB, Stephens, Manning, Charles, Downes, Matsuki, Azaz, Scienza, Larin/Stewart. 

[tdmickey3]

14 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

They are absolutely crap. Lost their two best players in January as well (amazingly Jan Valery was one of them, which says it all). Should be a comfortable win. 

Peretz, Bree, THB, Stephens, Manning, Charles, Downes, Matsuki, Azaz, Scienza, Larin/Stewart. 

Must win,should win

[SNSUN]

If our second string can beat a strong Leicester side in the cup, it can definitely beat Wednesday. I'm not saying play the second team but if two or three changes were made by Tonda, it shouldn't affect our chances of beating them. 

This should be 3 more points. 

[Patches O Houlihan]

5 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

If our second string can beat a strong Leicester side in the cup, it can definitely beat Wednesday. I'm not saying play the second team but if two or three changes were made by Tonda, it shouldn't affect our chances of beating them. 

This should be 3 more points. 

I agree. Whilst it was frustrating to watch Tonda keep taking off our best player after 60 mins in mid winter we are now in a position where we have almost the whole squad available, when most of the league are walking wounded.

I would be happy to start with Charles and Bragg in midfield for example. Maybe Edozie and Matsuki too. But continue to bring on the rested players for 10-25 mins to keep them involved and up to speed.

[Football Special]

I certainly don't think we can be complacent, Millwall only won there 2-1, Wrexham beat them 1-0, they will battle hard and make us earn the points. 

Hopefully the Sheffield derby has drained them and a tough trip to Norwich tomorrow night should make recovery tough for their small squad. 

[Football Special]

Fair play to them for giving us £20 tickets, over 3000 sold currently and more still on sale, should be a good following up there 

[die Mannyschaft]

I'll be up in Sheffield for the second time and I'll settle for any win.

Last time I was there it was FA cup QF Sheffield Wednesday v Saints, 20 March 1984 0-0. 40,000 crowd and loads of Saints went up, won replay at Dell 5-1. 

[Micky]

Eric Ramsay sacked by West Brom, they might get some 'new man bounce' by the time we get to them. 

[kwsaint]

One of the closest games for me. Going with the father in law who is a Wednesday fan so should be fun!

[Dr Who?]

9 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Aiming to do the Steel City quadruple with a win here. 

I'm wondering how their now confirmed relegation will affect them mentally. Sometimes in that situation, when the pressure is suddenly off, teams can spring a surprise on you (I'm thinking of that time we went and lost 6-2 to Derby after they had been relegated). But I don't think there ever was any pressure on Wednesday because they've surely known since the moment they got their points deduction that they were never gonna stay up.

On paper it should be an easy win. But I've been watching Saints for far too long to take anything like that for granted.

I don’t think there has been any expectation on them for a while. They put their all into winning the Steel derby, but fell short, as this would have been very small consolation for what has been a horror of a season. They have slightly settled down and improved over the last few weeks, and by this I mean they have scored. If we do not win this it will be criminal. But nothing surprised me when I go to football. I have managed to see Cambridge lose their only game in 20 against few weeks ago away at Harrogate who were bottom and not won in 10 games at home… yep Harrogate won! 

[Dr Who?]

7 hours ago, die Mannyschaft said:

I'll be up in Sheffield for the second time and I'll settle for any win.

Last time I was there it was FA cup QF Sheffield Wednesday v Saints, 20 March 1984 0-0. 40,000 crowd and loads of Saints went up, won replay at Dell 5-1. 

‘That’ cup run. The first that I remember, of course the semi final, but also Armstrong against Blackburn, holding the magic sponge to his head. The other semi final Watford v Plymouth. To this day I believe if we had overcome Everton we would have won the cup that year. Remember the Wednesday game. I think the last time I was at Hillsborough was 0-0 as well in the mid 90’s. 

[Sheaf Saint]

Last time I went to watch us play at Hillsborough, we lost 5-0 under George Burley. Wednesday weren't even particularly good on the day, we just completely crumbled in defence and gave away some ridiculous goals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/7076446.stm

At least we can safely say there is zero chance of that happening again on Saturday.

 

[VectisSaint]

10 hours ago, SNSUN said:

If our second string can beat a strong Leicester side in the cup, it can definitely beat Wednesday. I'm not saying play the second team but if two or three changes were made by Tonda, it shouldn't affect our chances of beating them. 

This should be 3 more points. 

Why make changes, no one can be tired after 25 minutes of walking football at the end of last night's game. Slow walking at that. Only change I would make would be Charles for Jander, assuming Weli is still out. 

[Appy]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Last time I went to watch us play at Hillsborough, we lost 5-0 under George Burley. Wednesday weren't even particularly good on the day, we just completely crumbled in defence and gave away some ridiculous goals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/7076446.stm

At least we can safely say there is zero chance of that happening again on Saturday.

 

Was that when Kelvin Davis had agg with the away end?

[Football Special]

15 minutes ago, Appy said:

Was that when Kelvin Davis had agg with the away end?

Feel like that might have been the defeat in 2009. Strange day that was, Hillsborough anniversary and they put us in lower tier leppings lane end next to a load of flowers that had been laid by Liverpool fans 

[whelk]

10 hours ago, die Mannyschaft said:

I'll be up in Sheffield for the second time and I'll settle for any win.

Last time I was there it was FA cup QF Sheffield Wednesday v Saints, 20 March 1984 0-0. 40,000 crowd and loads of Saints went up, won replay at Dell 5-1. 

Aye, more coaches than you could wave a stick at

[Jack]

I’ve got a spare for this if anyone wants it, upper stand. Face value £20. I know they’re still on sale but only in the lower now. 
 

Will be on the 07:52 train from Soton Central, around Sheffield City centre at lunchtime or can meet by the ground before kickoff 

[Jack]

This was the lineup last time I was at Hillsborough, mad that it’s 2 decades ago. 
 

Davis, Ostlund, Lundekvam (Viafara 46), Baird, Bale, Pele, Skacel, Wright, Surman, Rasiak, Jones (Wright-Phillips 46)

[S-Clarke]

I mean...this is like an FA Cup game against a lower league team. I feel sad for Wednesday, because their team is barely L1 in quality at this stage - so in that respect, this should be a no brainer for us.

They always put up a fight though, that's what's struck me all season. They don't have any real ability or depth at all, but they always give all that they have - so it won't be an absolute walk in the park, but we just need to do our game and things will happen.

Edited 7 hours ago by S-Clarke

[RedWillie]

Banana 🍌 skin alert..

[Jack]

3 minutes ago, RedWillie said:

Banana 🍌 skin alert..

I mean, they’ve lost their last 10 in a row. If we concentrate and give the game the respect it deserves, we’ll be fine. 

[spyinthesky]

My one and only visit to Hillsborough was in 2007? when we played well and winning by one goal until the Weds keeper (Kevin Pressman?) came up for a last minute corner and headed an equaliser

 

[Pamplemousse]

This won't be a 5-0 thrashing.

They'll sit deep and we always struggle to break teams like that down.

We should win but it won't be simple. 2-0

[Jack]

14 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

My one and only visit to Hillsborough was in 2007? when we played well and winning by one goal until the Weds keeper (Kevin Pressman?) came up for a last minute corner and headed an equaliser

 

2006, we were 3-1 up. Mark Crossley scored from that corner. The whiskey George days 

[Lighthouse]

My only trip up there was Adkins' first win as Saints manager. 1-0, Lee barnard IIRC. I'd take that again, without Lee Barnard obviously.

[Football Special]

We've won our last 7 matches against Sheffield Wednesday, have we ever beaten a team 8 times in a row? 

[Sheaf Saint]

2 hours ago, Appy said:

Was that when Kelvin Davis had agg with the away end?

I don't remember that. But then I left after the 3rd goal went in and went to meet some friends in the pub. 

[RedArmy]

14 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

But I don't think there ever was any pressure on Wednesday because they've surely known since the moment they got their points deduction that they were never gonna stay up.

 

They’d have gone down regardless of the deduction, it’s nearly March and they have accumulated 11 points. 
 

If anything their deduction hasn’t been a punishment at all…we had a similar situation in 2009 and we were forced to take the points deduction the following season unless we stayed up. I’m not sure Wednesday will suffer the same fate. 
 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Jack said:

2006, we were 3-1 up. Mark Crossley scored from that corner. The whiskey George days 

Also the only keeper to save an MLT penalty in a league match.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Turkish]

I usually book tickets via northern saints so for the first time in years I’ve booked via the club website for an away game. 
 

I booked tickets Monday and was advised to down load the app but there are no tickets on there. Do they still send out physical tickets or will they eventually show in the app?

northern saints you get a ticket in the post so assume they’re on the way?

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

I usually book tickets via northern saints so for the first time in years I’ve booked via the club website for an away game. 
 

I booked tickets Monday and was advised to down load the app but there are no tickets on there. Do they still send out physical tickets or will they eventually show in the app?

northern saints you get a ticket in the post so assume they’re on the way?

It's proper paper ticket in the post mate 

They're trialing digital tickets for WBA first time for an away game 

[warsash saint]

My first return to Hillsborough since 1991 when Alan Shearer scored in a 1-1 League Cup game  😮

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, warsash saint said:

My first return to Hillsborough since 1991 when Alan Shearer scored in a 1-1 League Cup game  😮

It's hardly changed in that time 

[Doctoroncall]

Sadly, they are looking for new owners now the  consortium who had exclusivity have pulled out. It looks like a money pit (£4m spent this year) and in danger of liquidation. 

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[Saint86]

17 hours ago, SNSUN said:

If our second string can beat a strong Leicester side in the cup, it can definitely beat Wednesday. I'm not saying play the second team but if two or three changes were made by Tonda, it shouldn't affect our chances of beating them. 

This should be 3 more points. 

Start strong, sub after its won. No excuses.

[Toadhall Saint]

16 hours ago, die Mannyschaft said:

I'll be up in Sheffield for the second time and I'll settle for any win.

Last time I was there it was FA cup QF Sheffield Wednesday v Saints, 20 March 1984 0-0. 40,000 crowd and loads of Saints went up, won replay at Dell 5-1. 

On a Sunday 

[BARCELONASAINT]

"Complacency is the last hurdle standing between any team and its potential greatness"......the players cannot walk onto the pitch with the thinking this game is already won or they will become the second south coast side to be beaten by Wednesday this season!

On paper we win and win convincingly but we have an awful habit of making the easy so very hard!

[Football Special]

21 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

"Complacency is the last hurdle standing between any team and its potential greatness"......the players cannot walk onto the pitch with the thinking this game is already won or they will become the second south coast side to be beaten by Wednesday this season!

On paper we win and win convincingly but we have an awful habit of making the easy so very hard!

Just need to show the players a video of Sheff Weds 2-1 defeat away at Sheff Utd, they're no pushovers and cannot fault their effort level, like I say Wrexham only won there 1-0 , easy to be complacent looking at form or the league table but watch performances show true story 

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Football Special said:

It's proper paper ticket in the post mate 

They're trialing digital tickets for WBA first time for an away game 

Thanks mate