skintsaint Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Haven't seen that. If he is for sale then we should be all over it 🤷 Quick search and its Sporting so not sure we would have a chance anyway. If the link is true.
Chez Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, SouthWalesSaints said: Personally I’d have offered him a two year deal, think we’ll regret this one. Him and Larin were great for one another. On multiple occasions one would be having a bad game and the other would have an impact from bench. Genuinely upset he’s not back. Hope we have something better lined up. I'm with you. He seemed to form the ideal 1-2 punch with Larin, although having to manage minutes is not ideal. As we well know, it's not easy to recruit talented strikers, especially on a free, so it will be interesting to see what happens in that position. I suspect Downs, Archer and BBD will all depart. We are just waiting for reasonable offers which obviously have not yet materialised. Edited 4 hours ago by Chez 3
SNSUN Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Starksj1995 said: So incomings this week then I’m going a striker It went quiet on that Ivan Azon link didn't it. Maybe we have a nice surprise lined up.
Chez Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Quick search and its Sporting so not sure we would have a chance anyway. If the link is true. It assumes Sporting have sold Luis Suarez, but that hasn't happened yet.
Lighthouse Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Perhaps, but you seem overly negative this summer - I wouldn't be so quick to rule out any big signings. I.e., last year we took azaz and fellows (key players) from established championship clubs... We will likely be selling Charles for £25M+, potentially losing some of THB, Scienza, or Jander for big money, and almost certainly seeing the backs of the likes of BBD, Archer, Ramsdale, Bazunu etc. we've also had the Fernandes money come in, as well as seeing the likes of macca and aribo off the wage bill 🤷. Ruling out signing Zan Vipotnik is not negative. He is not signing for another Championship team. As for the sales mentioned, we need to balance the books and the amount of transfer income required reportedly runs into the tens of millions, that’s on top of the outlay for Latin, Peretz and Dobbin. Any further spending is likely to be on cheaper replacements for the likes of Charles and THB, if they leave.
Saint Pete Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Perhaps, but you seem overly negative this summer - I wouldn't be so quick to rule out any big signings. I.e., last year we took azaz and fellows (key players) from established championship clubs... We will likely be selling Charles for £25M+, potentially losing some of THB, Scienza, or Jander for big money, and almost certainly seeing the backs of the likes of BBD, Archer, Ramsdale, Bazunu etc. we've also had the Fernandes money come in, as well as seeing the likes of macca and aribo off the wage bill 🤷. Remember we have also already signed Larin, Peretz and Dobbin this summer though. And if we are selling Charles and one or more of THB, Scienza and Jander, those players will need to be replaced using the money that comes in. I'm sure we will sign a replacement for Stewart, but Vipotnik is surely out of our range as he is Championship top scorer and contracted to Swansea until 2030 I believe. Also, if Swansea do sign Stewart they are getting him for £0, so they can hold out for big money for Vipotnik.
hypochondriac Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Ruling out signing Zan Vipotnik is not negative. He is not signing for another Championship team. As for the sales mentioned, we need to balance the books and the amount of transfer income required reportedly runs into the tens of millions, that’s on top of the outlay for Latin, Peretz and Dobbin. Any further spending is likely to be on cheaper replacements for the likes of Charles and THB, if they leave. I could see him possibly joining West Ham TBF
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I could see him possibly joining West Ham TBF And they've got money to spend. And so much for their ground being a morgue this year. They've sold 50,000 season tickets - more than last year = and their fans will want to see goals.
VectisSaint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Absolutely bizarre that he'd rather be there than here Unless of course we haven't offered him anything to be at Saints.
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, VectisSaint said: Unless of course we haven't offered him anything to be at Saints. Except that we had and that would contradict what Tonda has said recently.
VectisSaint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Except that we had and that would contradict what Tonda has said recently. You know we offered him something do you, what was it? Tonda didn't say we had offered him anything he merely said he hoped something could be done. Vast difference. 1
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, VectisSaint said: You know we offered him something do you, what was it? Tonda didn't say we had offered him anything he merely said he hoped something could be done. Vast difference. The agreement was that he gets another year extension after the end of the season but due to spygate he was allowed to declare that agreement void. 1
Göztepe Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, UpweySaint said: Bu durum, neden yapmadığınız sorusunu akla getiriyor. Teoride çoklu kulüp modelini genel olarak destekliyorum ama Juan anlaşmasının işleyiş şeklini anlamıyorum. Oyuncuları, uzmanlığı, ağları vb. paylaşmaya katılıyorum ama Juan anlaşması garip geldi. The fact that he was transferred to you first—perhaps just to attach a "Premier League" label to the player—isn't really the main issue. Expectations within the multi-club model are incredibly high and often one-sided; a player like Juan—suited for a two-striker system—would likely struggle as a lone striker in the Premier League, much like Armstrong did. There is a perception that Southampton is handing over ready-made star players to us for free, which is nonsense.
UpweySaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Göztepe said: The fact that he was transferred to you first—perhaps just to attach a "Premier League" label to the player—isn't really the main issue. Expectations within the multi-club model are incredibly high and often one-sided; a player like Juan—suited for a two-striker system—would likely struggle as a lone striker in the Premier League, much like Armstrong did. There is a perception that Southampton is handing over ready-made star players to us for free, which is nonsense. I’m not suggesting we’ve handed over a ready made star or that Juan would thrive as a Southampton player. I genuinely don’t understand why the transfer was structured the way it was. It’s odd. As you suggested the fee was not a large one so I don’t get why he didn’t just go directly to you without signing for us 🤷♂️
Göztepe Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 14 dakika önce UpweySaint şunları söyledi: Hazır bir oyuncu yıldızyu teslim ettiğimizi veya Juan'ın Southampton'da başarılı bir performans sergiliyor. Transferin neden bu şekilde yapılandırıldığını gerçekten anlayamıyorum. Çok tuhaf. Sizde mevcut olabilir gibi, transfer ücretiniz büyük değil, bu nedenle sözleşme nedenimizi yerine getirmeden direkt boyuta gitmediğini anlayamıyorum🤷♂️ As I said, it might be so that he has a Premier League club on his CV, even if only for a single day. Edited 3 hours ago by Göztepe 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Göztepe said: The fact that he was transferred to you first—perhaps just to attach a "Premier League" label to the player—isn't really the main issue. Expectations within the multi-club model are incredibly high and often one-sided; a player like Juan—suited for a two-striker system—would likely struggle as a lone striker in the Premier League, much like Armstrong did. There is a perception that Southampton is handing over ready-made star players to us for free, which is nonsense. It is a issue, it impacted our profit/loss sheet we went down 1
UpweySaint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Göztepe said: As I said, it might be so that he has a Premier League club on his CV, even if only for a single day. I don’t buy that as a reason. I expect it may be something the clubs know but won’t share publicly 🤷♂️
Starksj1995 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, SNSUN said: It went quiet on that Ivan Azon link didn't it. Maybe we have a nice surprise lined up. Hopefully we do
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, SNSUN said: It went quiet on that Ivan Azon link didn't it. Maybe we have a nice surprise lined up. Hopefully the surprise is that it isn't Azon. 1
Pilchards Posted 38 minutes ago Posted 38 minutes ago (edited) If Stewart is going to Swansea maybe we are taking the nippy striker they have? Edited 24 minutes ago by Pilchards 1
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