skintsaint Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Haven't seen that. If he is for sale then we should be all over it 🤷 Quick search and its Sporting so not sure we would have a chance anyway. If the link is true.
Chez Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, SouthWalesSaints said: Personally I’d have offered him a two year deal, think we’ll regret this one. Him and Larin were great for one another. On multiple occasions one would be having a bad game and the other would have an impact from bench. Genuinely upset he’s not back. Hope we have something better lined up. I'm with you. He seemed to form the ideal 1-2 punch with Larin, although having to manage minutes is not ideal. As we well know, it's not easy to recruit talented strikers, especially on a free, so it will be interesting to see what happens in that position. I suspect Downs, Archer and BBD will all depart. We are just waiting for reasonable offers which obviously have not yet materialised. Edited 16 hours ago by Chez 3
SNSUN Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, Starksj1995 said: So incomings this week then I’m going a striker It went quiet on that Ivan Azon link didn't it. Maybe we have a nice surprise lined up.
Chez Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 3 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Quick search and its Sporting so not sure we would have a chance anyway. If the link is true. It assumes Sporting have sold Luis Suarez, but that hasn't happened yet.
Lighthouse Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Perhaps, but you seem overly negative this summer - I wouldn't be so quick to rule out any big signings. I.e., last year we took azaz and fellows (key players) from established championship clubs... We will likely be selling Charles for £25M+, potentially losing some of THB, Scienza, or Jander for big money, and almost certainly seeing the backs of the likes of BBD, Archer, Ramsdale, Bazunu etc. we've also had the Fernandes money come in, as well as seeing the likes of macca and aribo off the wage bill 🤷. Ruling out signing Zan Vipotnik is not negative. He is not signing for another Championship team. As for the sales mentioned, we need to balance the books and the amount of transfer income required reportedly runs into the tens of millions, that’s on top of the outlay for Latin, Peretz and Dobbin. Any further spending is likely to be on cheaper replacements for the likes of Charles and THB, if they leave.
Saint Pete Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Perhaps, but you seem overly negative this summer - I wouldn't be so quick to rule out any big signings. I.e., last year we took azaz and fellows (key players) from established championship clubs... We will likely be selling Charles for £25M+, potentially losing some of THB, Scienza, or Jander for big money, and almost certainly seeing the backs of the likes of BBD, Archer, Ramsdale, Bazunu etc. we've also had the Fernandes money come in, as well as seeing the likes of macca and aribo off the wage bill 🤷. Remember we have also already signed Larin, Peretz and Dobbin this summer though. And if we are selling Charles and one or more of THB, Scienza and Jander, those players will need to be replaced using the money that comes in. I'm sure we will sign a replacement for Stewart, but Vipotnik is surely out of our range as he is Championship top scorer and contracted to Swansea until 2030 I believe. Also, if Swansea do sign Stewart they are getting him for £0, so they can hold out for big money for Vipotnik.
hypochondriac Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Ruling out signing Zan Vipotnik is not negative. He is not signing for another Championship team. As for the sales mentioned, we need to balance the books and the amount of transfer income required reportedly runs into the tens of millions, that’s on top of the outlay for Latin, Peretz and Dobbin. Any further spending is likely to be on cheaper replacements for the likes of Charles and THB, if they leave. I could see him possibly joining West Ham TBF 1
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I could see him possibly joining West Ham TBF And they've got money to spend. And so much for their ground being a morgue this year. They've sold 50,000 season tickets - more than last year = and their fans will want to see goals. 1
VectisSaint Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Absolutely bizarre that he'd rather be there than here Unless of course we haven't offered him anything to be at Saints.
hypochondriac Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Just now, VectisSaint said: Unless of course we haven't offered him anything to be at Saints. Except that we had and that would contradict what Tonda has said recently.
VectisSaint Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Except that we had and that would contradict what Tonda has said recently. You know we offered him something do you, what was it? Tonda didn't say we had offered him anything he merely said he hoped something could be done. Vast difference. 1
hypochondriac Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Just now, VectisSaint said: You know we offered him something do you, what was it? Tonda didn't say we had offered him anything he merely said he hoped something could be done. Vast difference. The agreement was that he gets another year extension after the end of the season but due to spygate he was allowed to declare that agreement void. 1
Göztepe Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 hours ago, UpweySaint said: Bu durum, neden yapmadığınız sorusunu akla getiriyor. Teoride çoklu kulüp modelini genel olarak destekliyorum ama Juan anlaşmasının işleyiş şeklini anlamıyorum. Oyuncuları, uzmanlığı, ağları vb. paylaşmaya katılıyorum ama Juan anlaşması garip geldi. The fact that he was transferred to you first—perhaps just to attach a "Premier League" label to the player—isn't really the main issue. Expectations within the multi-club model are incredibly high and often one-sided; a player like Juan—suited for a two-striker system—would likely struggle as a lone striker in the Premier League, much like Armstrong did. There is a perception that Southampton is handing over ready-made star players to us for free, which is nonsense.
UpweySaint Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Göztepe said: The fact that he was transferred to you first—perhaps just to attach a "Premier League" label to the player—isn't really the main issue. Expectations within the multi-club model are incredibly high and often one-sided; a player like Juan—suited for a two-striker system—would likely struggle as a lone striker in the Premier League, much like Armstrong did. There is a perception that Southampton is handing over ready-made star players to us for free, which is nonsense. I’m not suggesting we’ve handed over a ready made star or that Juan would thrive as a Southampton player. I genuinely don’t understand why the transfer was structured the way it was. It’s odd. As you suggested the fee was not a large one so I don’t get why he didn’t just go directly to you without signing for us 🤷♂️
Göztepe Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 14 dakika önce UpweySaint şunları söyledi: Hazır bir oyuncu yıldızyu teslim ettiğimizi veya Juan'ın Southampton'da başarılı bir performans sergiliyor. Transferin neden bu şekilde yapılandırıldığını gerçekten anlayamıyorum. Çok tuhaf. Sizde mevcut olabilir gibi, transfer ücretiniz büyük değil, bu nedenle sözleşme nedenimizi yerine getirmeden direkt boyuta gitmediğini anlayamıyorum🤷♂️ As I said, it might be so that he has a Premier League club on his CV, even if only for a single day. Edited 15 hours ago by Göztepe 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Göztepe said: The fact that he was transferred to you first—perhaps just to attach a "Premier League" label to the player—isn't really the main issue. Expectations within the multi-club model are incredibly high and often one-sided; a player like Juan—suited for a two-striker system—would likely struggle as a lone striker in the Premier League, much like Armstrong did. There is a perception that Southampton is handing over ready-made star players to us for free, which is nonsense. It is a issue, it impacted our profit/loss sheet we went down 1
UpweySaint Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Göztepe said: As I said, it might be so that he has a Premier League club on his CV, even if only for a single day. I don’t buy that as a reason. I expect it may be something the clubs know but won’t share publicly 🤷♂️
Starksj1995 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 5 hours ago, SNSUN said: It went quiet on that Ivan Azon link didn't it. Maybe we have a nice surprise lined up. Hopefully we do
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 6 hours ago, SNSUN said: It went quiet on that Ivan Azon link didn't it. Maybe we have a nice surprise lined up. Hopefully the surprise is that it isn't Azon. 2
Pilchards Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) If Stewart is going to Swansea maybe we are taking the nippy striker they have? Edited 12 hours ago by Pilchards 2
VectisSaint Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 5 hours ago, hypochondriac said: The agreement was that he gets another year extension after the end of the season but due to spygate he was allowed to declare that agreement void. The agreement was void because Saints (understandably) fucked up. If an agreement is void it no longer exists, so you are admitting that we haven't actually offered him anything. I thought with you being one of the fonts of all knowledge on here that you might genuinely have some insight, but it seems you know the square root of fuck all, qu'elle surprise. Saints were playing the promotion/no promotion game with Stewart, it backfired badly because it showed him that he was not really wanted if we were promoted. How to fuck off a player in one easy step. Seems like Tonda has been trying to bring him round but seemingly without success. 1
chivvy Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Move on from Stewart always injured and larin can't start all the games once he crocked again. Time to buy a younger more durable player.. Edited 10 hours ago by chivvy
hypochondriac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: The agreement was void because Saints (understandably) fucked up. If an agreement is void it no longer exists, so you are admitting that we haven't actually offered him anything. I thought with you being one of the fonts of all knowledge on here that you might genuinely have some insight, but it seems you know the square root of fuck all, qu'elle surprise. Saints were playing the promotion/no promotion game with Stewart, it backfired badly because it showed him that he was not really wanted if we were promoted. How to fuck off a player in one easy step. Seems like Tonda has been trying to bring him round but seemingly without success. What nonsense. Very clearly we were looking to continue with the agreement and then Stewart agent wriggled out of it on a technicality because he thought he could get him more elsewhere. Yes we fucked up but nowhere is that a suggestion that we didn't offer him anything. He just didn't accept because he could get off it on a technicality. Oh and it's fount by the way numbnuts. Maybe try to be a bit less aggressive in your posting there's a good chap. Edited 10 hours ago by hypochondriac 4
Cuddles Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I suspect, chaps, that it may be a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B. I also think he has been badly advised. Regardless, if he ends up at Swansea it's all aboard the ROFLCOPTER! Hope we get in someone decent like Larin, and not another Delgado...or someone broken again.
Willo of Whiteley Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 10 hours ago, ally_uk said: Fuck him..... Move on from Stewart he is made of glass. Get the next one in. Can’t get behind this more 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Turkish Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 12 hours ago, ally_uk said: Fuck him..... Move on from Stewart he is made of glass. Get the next one in. Angone in particular you’re thinking of Ally? 5
Patrick Bateman Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 13 hours ago, BS8Saint said: FootyInsider reporting that Ross Stewart close to joining Swansea… What a strange move!! Having driven around Southampton today for the first time in a while, I'd choose Swansea too. WTF is it with all the roadworks and awful "traffic calming" things everywhere? Bloody awful.
jrobsbigshorts Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Could we actually afford to keep Scienza,. Harwood Bellis and Jander , I'm no expert on SCR but it seemed like previously we thought 2 of these 3 would go but it doesn't sound like the huge offers that Dragan said it would take are coming? Would you keep the current squad with BBD gone and Stewart on a new contract, no other transfers I would Edited 7 hours ago by jrobsbigshorts
LiberalCommunist Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago 7 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: Having driven around Southampton today for the first time in a while, I'd choose Swansea too. WTF is it with all the roadworks and awful "traffic calming" things everywhere? Bloody awful. Not just a Hampshire problem. The people in charge of the road infrastructure hate motorists now. Its dreadful out there.
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