Badger Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Just now, Matthew Le God said: Since then he has had a season in the Championship and is the 1st choice striker for England under 21s He played half a season it seems before injury. Not overwhelming references on their Forum though as someone posted earlier. Fair point re the England U21’s.
hypochondriac Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 15 minutes ago, trousers said: Fret ye not... Dragan promised us a team that'll get us excited and up off our seats and I, for one, trust him to deliver on his promise 👍🏻 Question is do you consider that promise fulfilled if we end the window with: Peretz/new gk Bree/Roeslev Stephens/wood thb/Quarshie Manning/Wellington Fellows/Matsuki Downes/Jander Bragg/new CM Scienza/Edozie Azaz/Dobbin Larin/Mubama Obviously dependent on the cm but I think we'd be one top attacking signing away for me. Ecstatic that we didn't have to sell any of the other big fish though if it does happen. 2
Turkish Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Only a light scumming for KWP by comparison. JWP got plenty though. By all accounts their fans were shite behaving more like wild eyed kids in a toys R Us for the first time than tough, passionate football fans they like to pretend they are 2
hypochondriac Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I did rather think we'd be up for making one more high profile signing this summer if I'm honest (if we had kept Stewart for example would we have just signed Dobbin and the Charles replacement?) but maybe our financial situation is a little bit worse than I considered it to be. Obviously the window isn't shut yet it does sound like we would have to sell in order to properly strengthen elsewhere.
Turkish Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Question is do you consider that promise fulfilled if we end the window with: Peretz/new gk Bree/Roeslev Stephens/wood thb/Quarshie Manning/Wellington Fellows/Matsuki Downes/Jander Bragg/new CM Scienza/Edozie Azaz/Dobbin Larin/Mubama Obviously dependent on the cm but I think we'd be one top attacking signing away for me. Ecstatic that we didn't have to sell any of the other big fish though if it does happen. That’s a mid table premier league squad with the best fans in the world behind them. Nothing can go wrong. Everyone hates us too Which is brilliant
Göztepe Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 11 hours ago, KingInDaSouf said: Arthur Dennis'in Coventry'ye transferinin gerçekleşmediğini görüyorum. Shea'nın yerine iyi bir alternatif olurdu ve Goztepe ile de bir anlaşma yapmanın zor olmayacağını düşünürdüm. Bu çok kulüplü transfer saçmalığından biraz fayda görmek güzel olurdu. While the multi-club system poses absolutely no downside for you, the potential benefit is massive This transfer will happen if you pay 8 million euros. Alternatively, you would need to offer Jander as a replacement for Dennis. 4
Turkish Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Göztepe said: While the multi-club system poses absolutely no downside for you, the potential benefit is massive This transfer will happen if you pay 8 million euros. Alternatively, you would need to offer Jander as a replacement for Dennis. Who the fuck is Arthur Denis? Is he a soccerballist? I can’t only find an Arthur Denis who is a Canadian liberal party member and if we sign him the only ones who will benefit are the Rainbow Saints 1
KingInDaSouf Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Göztepe said: While the multi-club system poses absolutely no downside for you, the potential benefit is massive This transfer will happen if you pay 8 million euros. Alternatively, you would need to offer Jander as a replacement for Dennis. I think a straight swap for BBD is in everybody's best interests. 2 2
Turkish Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Just now, KingInDaSouf said: I think a straight swap for BBD is in everybody's best interests. Good shout BBD would COOK in turkey
Gloucester Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Turkish said: By all accounts their fans were shite behaving more like wild eyed kids in a toys R Us for the first time than tough, passionate football fans they like to pretend they are Especially Corp Ho, he knew a thing or two about toys. 3
EBS1980 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 hours ago, Saint_lambden said: Bragg has been offered a new contract. Blackburn want BBD. We want to sell but they can’t afford what we’re after at present (only a few million) so pushing for loan with option to buy. Edozie has interest from Rennes, Cardiff and a couple of Dutch teams. Offer Edozie in a deal for James.
Tommy Mulgrew Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, Matty's Caddy said: They’ve made up apparently I trust no tongues were involved. 1
Tommy Mulgrew Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 hours ago, Midfield_General said: Archer's not a world beater but he's about as good as you can reasonably expect to get for 3rd choice CF at Championship level. He’s a first or second choice for most Championship clubs, IMO. We are unlikely to sign a third choice CF who is even as good as Archer, let alone better than him, again IMO. I thought that Mubama caused our CBs a lot of trouble last season when we played Stoke. I believe Tonda will help him thrive in our team and he should benefit greatly from the better service from both wings and from midfield than he got while at Stoke. I’d be surprised if we have three strikers better than Archer, Larin and Mubama after the transfer window closes. We then have to hope that Larin does not get a serious injury. 🤞 I agree with others that having BBD or DD as the third striker would consign us to another year in the Championship. 2
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 16 hours ago, spyinthesky said: Duncan, How is Sam enjoying life in the Potteries? Does he fancy the teams chances this season? I had always hoped he could have made progress at SMS He's had a lot of injuries since going to Stoke but he is happy there. He's in the lasst year of his contract so needs to hit the ground running. Looking forward to seeing him at St Mary's in a fortnight. He's never played there since leaving. Stoke have spent a bit in the summer and there are rumours they are chasing George Hirst which will have an impact on Sam 2
Saint86 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 10 hours ago, Tommy Mulgrew said: He’s a first or second choice for most Championship clubs, IMO. We are unlikely to sign a third choice CF who is even as good as Archer, let alone better than him, again IMO. I thought that Mubama caused our CBs a lot of trouble last season when we played Stoke. I believe Tonda will help him thrive in our team and he should benefit greatly from the better service from both wings and from midfield than he got while at Stoke. I’d be surprised if we have three strikers better than Archer, Larin and Mubama after the transfer window closes. We then have to hope that Larin does not get a serious injury. 🤞 I agree with others that having BBD or DD as the third striker would consign us to another year in the Championship. Of all of the ones we look destined to get rid of, Archer is the one we should probably keep imo. We saw during last season's run in that we can use him. There is a good player there, its not worked for him at saints, but i don't think we'll get better than him for the money - plus he could strengthen a rival club potentially (if they use him in a way that suits his game). Potentially Edozie as well - depending on whether we can replace him in a financially sensible way. We need depth on the wings imo. Edited 1 hour ago by Saint86 2
Saint86 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 12 hours ago, trousers said: He scored 11 goals per season in the last two seasons he played for us, so not too shabby for a midfielder not known for his attacking prowess* (* Yes, most of those were probably set pieces, and yes, he was 4 - 5 years younger) If he is available at the right price, its a no brainer bringing him back imo - He'd bring us quality, professionalism, experience - and is a player who we can take into the premier league next season. Although whether we can afford to do a sensible deal with west ham for him is another question 🤷♂️ Edited 1 hour ago by Saint86 2
Turkish Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Of all of the ones we look destined to get rid of, Archer is the one we should probably keep imo. We saw during last season's run in that we can use him. There is a good player there, its not worked for him at saints, but i don't think we'll get better than him for the money - plus he could strengthen a rival club potentially (if they use him in a way that suits his game). Potentially Edozie as well - depending on whether we can replace him in a financially sensible way. We need depth on the wings imo. Hes a good player when played to his strengths but he’s not good enough that the rest of the team should play to them. Hes good option to have as a squad player but I suspect he’s on relatively high wages do that role Edited 1 hour ago by Turkish 2
Willo of Whiteley Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago If we’re serious about top two then we need a second proven striker. This Man City lad scored five goals last season - the first two came in the first two games and the final three were a hat trick later in the season. Not glowing in terms of stats, but I appreciate he was playing in a mediocre Stoke team. I have concerns about our wide players, all of them simply do not provide enough goals, someone with even an ounce of end product as a winger would allow us some attacking flexibility. The centre of midfield is a concern too, that Shea Charles replacement is probably the priority. 3
Saint86 Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, Turkish said: Hes a good player when played to his strengths but he’s not good enough that the rest of the team should play to them. Hes good option to have as a squad player but I suspect he’s on relatively high wages do that role That's fair. I just don't think i'd be shifting him unless doing so allows us to strengthen. He's the sort of player i could see doing well elsewhere this season (potentially at a play off rival for example), or coming back to haunt us in a crucial game etc. Edited 49 minutes ago by Saint86
Saint Pete Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago I agree Archer showed enough towards the end of last season that ideally it would be good to keep him if we can to be our third "provides something different" striker option. I don't see him as a lone striker but he is good option if we want to go 2 up front alongside one of the bigger strikers, which may be useful when chasing a goal late in games. He's also shown he can be an option in the wide areas. 1
John B Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago 13 hours ago, Badger said: I think Ball was only 31 on joining us. Although past the prime of his career he had some years ahead of him, and a fantastic football brain to make up for his ‘older’ legs. Not many players of his calibre would drop a division now. Agree with your points though. I never liked Alan Ball as he kept Terry Paine out of the 1966 World Cup team and on Boxing Day told Bob Wilson where Micky Channon was going to place a penalty at the Milton Road End at Christmas 1973. We drew that match and hardly ever won again that season and eventually were relegated I met Bob forty years later and he remembered that penalty save as he was useless at saving them. At Christmas 1977 I went to the Valley when we beat Charlton possibly 3 1 and saw what a great player Alan Ball was and convinced myself that we would be promoted that season which we were in a 0 0 draw with Spurs. It was the first time I saw Glen Hoddle play and he in my opinion was one of the best managers we have had in the PL With regard to strikers when we have been promoted we have had top class Championship goal scorers Chivers Boyer/Macdougal Lambert and Armstrong so we need another one although Larin may become one but it is a gamble 1
Turkish Posted 38 minutes ago Posted 38 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Saint Pete said: I agree Archer showed enough towards the end of last season that ideally it would be good to keep him if we can to be our third "provides something different" striker option. I don't see him as a lone striker but he is good option if we want to go 2 up front alongside one of the bigger strikers, which may be useful when chasing a goal late in games. He's also shown he can be an option in the wide areas. He did well coming on from the left last season. Agree if we go 2 up top then playing off Larin he’d be a decent option. There is a good player there when used properly. Difficult to see a future for Double D now we’ve got the city lad in.
Fabrice29 Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: If we’re serious about top two then we need a second proven striker. Once again, we have this in Diaz and Archer but it's widely agreed they aren't good enough. What we actually need is a striker who is good enough. Proven is not and should never be a criteria.
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 minutes ago Posted 20 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Once again, we have this in Diaz and Archer but it's widely agreed they aren't good enough. What we actually need is a striker who is good enough. Proven is not and should never be a criteria. we obviously need a striker who can immediately come in and be good enough to start in the set up we have. 1
BotleySaint Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago For me there was a noticeable difference in Archer toward end of last season and even the Colchester game. He has upped his work rate, seems to have added some pace, and is unfortunately only lacking the finishing touch. If he can start hitting the target he could be excellent. He deserves to stay, if we can afford it. 1
Hopper Posted 5 minutes ago Posted 5 minutes ago Mubama seems a shrewd signing to me, high potential and ideal back up. We're clearly expecting Larin will kick on this season and pick up where he left off. Fortunately a great deal of our goals come from elsewhere in the team, I think this is down to how Tonda sets us up. Azaz being joint top scorer speaks to this and Dobbin looks an exciting prospect in that regard. I suspect it's going to be very quiet until we've got a lot of players moved on now. Perhaps a few last minute loan signings for added depth still to come. Can't see us doing anything until we move on Downs, BBD and possibly Edozie and Archer. 1
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