Badger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Chez said: was the £4m being paid in £1 a year instalments? Perhaps selling some of them (Sugawara, Downs spring to mind ) by a sort of Littlewoods catalogue arrangement of paying over multiple instalments is the only way we’ll get rid of them. 2
egg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, Turkish said: Seems like a fair price. Every window random European clubs bid for him he never leaves and barely plays for us. It’s weird Yep, seems for money. He's never set the world alight here, and never will. What's odd is that is that IF we were a bit short of money to get a decent CB in, that we turned down £4m for him. 1
Give it to Ron Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, SNSUN said: I was trying to disprove this but it is, in fact, accurate. That's some doing. Depends on the option fee for Abbott (as to what we believe he's worth, or Forest believe he's worth) but yep, Kayi Sanda on £4 million beats Schlotterbeck and Wood. Where do we get the next 20m from in sales?
Turkish Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, SNSUN said: I was trying to disprove this but it is, in fact, accurate. That's some doing. Depends on the option fee for Abbott (as to what we believe he's worth, or Forest believe he's worth) but yep, Kayi Sanda on £4 million beats Schlotterbeck and Wood. Our 19 year old 5th choice defender been out on loan since he’s been here signed from another club is the SR group is our most expensive defender 😂😂
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: There is of course the option that we did all this and a human being changed their mind for some reason, somewhere along the line? Negotiations could have ended two days ago. Could be that Viking wanted £15m. Who knows, maybe it still happens.
SNSUN Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 25 and a half hours left until the window slams shut. Lots to be done, no less a GK unless we genuinely can't shift Ramsdale (which, as a fan, I'd be more than happy with).
SNSUN Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Where do we get the next 20m from in sales? Zach Abbott, we hope. Successful season, signs permanently, successful Prem campaign, sell for £40 million. It is the SR way. 1
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Zach Abbott, we hope. Successful season, signs permanently, successful Prem campaign, sell for £40 million. It is the SR way. Would be delighted with that.
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 35 minutes ago, saintant said: Comparing apples and oranges imo. Tend to agree, Saintant. Yes JWP has come in, but with Shea Charles leaving, there's a potential exposure in midfield, especially if Flynn Downes goes off eating raw chicken or gets injured. We lack muscle in midfield. 6
Badger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Zach Abbott, we hope. Successful season, signs permanently, successful Prem campaign, sell for £40 million. It is the SR way. Except our sales in recent years (apart from Lavia as the exception I think) seldom get to £40m. 1
Saint NL Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Tomorrow evening, one eye on the match, the other on the transfer thread 2
sockeye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Saint NL said: Tomorrow evening, one eye on the match, the other on the transfer thread Just wait until they sell Downes at half time
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Never heard of him but clearly he must have something about him that we like the look of, so I’ll reserve judgement. When they first signed, everyone thought Larin was crap and Orsic was quality. If we’ve replaced THB with Slotty, that doesn’t look a massive downgrade on first viewing, so if Abbott is a better suit than JQ then overall we’ve got a more even selection. Schlotterbeck is left footed and is not a replacement for right footed THB. THB's replacement will pop in tomorrow. 1
Draino76 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Berg Berstad has got to be a made up name FFS. Ridiculous. 2
Give it to Ron Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: Tend to agree, Saintant. Yes JWP has come in, but with Shea Charles leaving, there's a potential exposure in midfield, especially if Flynn Downes goes off eating raw chicken or gets injured. We lack muscle in midfield. Romeo looked ok TBF but not sure if loaned out yet we have to have some pathway for youngsters as 5th choice Jander still here Edited 1 hour ago by Give it to Ron
Badger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Tomorrow evening, one eye on the match, the other on the transfer thread Is that David Moyes talking about Dibling coming back on loan ? 1
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, egg said: Yep, seems for money. He's never set the world alight here, and never will. What's odd is that is that IF we were a bit short of money to get a decent CB in, that we turned down £4m for him. if the £4m is genuine and not made up of a load of add ons, we should take it IMO. We can do better, 2
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, James said: Quite but the cynic in me can’t help but feel that if this lad was really close to being PL quality, they wouldn’t have all of these guys in front of him and continue to be spending huge sums on players that will push him further down the pecking order. He's on loan for a year, gets lots of game time and then returns to Forest ready to challege for a first team slot. Isn't that what loans are for especially with kids. 1
SNSUN Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, Badger said: Except our sales in recent years (apart from Lavia as the exception I think) seldom get to £40m. Fernandes, Dibling...Livramento was close. But anyway I was being facetious, just that of all our centre backs, Abbott would be the only one we'd likely get any resale value out of... and we don't even own him. Schlotterbeck is 29, Jack is worth Jack and hypothetically even after a good season as our first choice CB i doubt anyone would pay more than £10 million for Wood.
James Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: He's on loan for a year, gets lots of game time and then returns to Forest ready to challege for a first team slot. Isn't that what loans are for especially with kids. We’ve got an option on him according to Alfie House. Clearly Glasner doesn’t fancy him. 1
CB Fry Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 41 minutes ago, saint-ross said: I mean, we've seen enough of him to know he's clearly not good enough for our level, so i don't get how this is relevant. If you understand what I've said, I'm referring to judging players before they kick a ball for us, or without a reasonable amount of time to integrate. In fairness, some fans actually gave Dobbin 30 minutes before writing him off. Fair play for allowing him that time to settle. Funny how some players don't fit the Saintsweb holier-than-thou routine of "you all slagged him off and he turned out brilliant" isn't it? The players that don't turn out great get quietly removed from that little sermon. Funny, ain't it. Damion Downs has played less than 15 games for us and even you, the great level headed super-patient uber-fan, has not got the balls to stand up and say give him time, he will be brilliant for us. You're just as bad as everyone else on here, aren't you? 2 1
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, LGTL said: Falchener was the one. No idea why we didn’t bid slightly higher as he was clearly our first choice. We’ve been dragging our feet all day as to whether to bid higher, but it seems they’ve decided against it. A bizarre position, to be honest. Should have held on and made Villa pay us £30m upfront to cover the extra. Supposedly Viking wanted a lot more, not just slightly more
Chez Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 49 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Be funny if we saw Abbott as the Roerslev replacement and still sign another CB. 😝 he doesn't look like a natural RB to me. 1
Cuddles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, Draino76 said: Berg Berstad has got to be a made up name FFS. Ridiculous. He's got a blue tick mate. Nailed on.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 31 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Where do we get the next 20m from in sales? We are getting promoted this season so not needed
kwsaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Perhaps we should go in for Lankshear from Boro just to piss them off. 4
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Still calling bullshit on this 🤣
Turkish Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: How are we looking for the net spend trophy? Pretty good
goodymatt Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Still calling bullshit on this 🤣 Giving me Spertsyan reporting vibes, too much talk.
goodymatt Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, West end Saints said: Viking's record fee received is about £4m Didn’t WHU buy someone from them today for €18m?
The Wyvern Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Pretty good The £9m spent on Dobbin stands out there as a strange bit of business. 3
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, The Wyvern said: The £9m spent on Dobbin stands out there as a strange bit of business. Indeed. Particularly given how little we have spent elsewhere.
goodymatt Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Think WHU, due to a series of big sales, will have the net spend trophy comfortably this season
James Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Indeed. Particularly given how little we have spent elsewhere. Agree with this. Odd to spend such a chunk of our budget on him. 1
Pat from Poole Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago What’s the latest on Solly March? Take the offer for Edozie, sign March and use the profit on a striker. Bosh. 2
James Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Pat from Poole said: What’s the latest on Solly March? Take the offer for Edozie, sign March and use the profit on a striker. Bosh. March would be great on a free, I’d also take Adam Webster too. 1
The Wyvern Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Indeed. Particularly given how little we have spent elsewhere. That’s what I mean. Just stands out from our approach to all other transfers this summer. Looks odd. Guess there’ll always be an outlier somewhere.
skintsaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Didn’t WHU buy someone from them today for €18m? 12m I thought. Still way higher than 4m! Can't we get Egil on the blower to have a word to help force a move. 1
RedArmy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I still think we need someone else in at DM/CM, bit concerning that it all seems to have gone quiet on that front since JWP signed.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Toussaint said: I knew they fuck it up somewhere along the line! You really shouldn't be in @sadoldgit's personal folder. 🙂
Chez Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, Pat from Poole said: What’s the latest on Solly March? Take the offer for Edozie, sign March and use the profit on a striker. Bosh. take the offer, keep Ramsdale and get Carvalho and Dibling on loan.
saintant Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, James said: March would be great on a free, I’d also take Adam Webster too. They'd certainly keep the medical staff busy. 1 1
VectisSaint Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago 1 hour ago, saintant said: Comparing apples and oranges imo. Agreed, some people seem to think the 2 CM roles are interchangeable. I don't like all these new fangled descriptions but if we have to use them Charles and Jander are 8s, Downes, JWP and Cam Bragg are 6s.
saint-ross Posted 42 minutes ago Posted 42 minutes ago 34 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Funny how some players don't fit the Saintsweb holier-than-thou routine of "you all slagged him off and he turned out brilliant" isn't it? The players that don't turn out great get quietly removed from that little sermon. Funny, ain't it. Damion Downs has played less than 15 games for us and even you, the great level headed super-patient uber-fan, has not got the balls to stand up and say give him time, he will be brilliant for us. You're just as bad as everyone else on here, aren't you? Ah yes, the classic let's go on the offensive when called out. Also very common here. Damion Downs was signed at the beginning of last season, I'd say that's ample time to prove whether he's at our level irrespective of the number of starts he's had. He's had loan spells at lower levels than us and failed, so this is a pretty pointless example you've provided. We all know hes nowehre near the level we need, so no point being a dick about it. 1 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago At least it’s all done by tomorrow night. 🤣 1
CB Fry Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, saint-ross said: Ah yes, the classic let's go on the offensive when called out. Also very common here. Damion Downs was signed at the beginning of last season, I'd say that's ample time to prove whether he's at our level irrespective of the number of starts he's had. He's had loan spells at lower levels than us and failed, so this is a pretty pointless example you've provided. We all know hes nowehre near the level we need, so no point being a dick about it. If you don’t believe in our players that's on you. Try supporting the team.
Saint_clark Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago 2 hours ago, James said: Bit of a silly question, if he’s good no one will care. Think most are concerned that we will be considerably worse going from THB to a 20 year old from Forest. I suspect we will be starting Wood most of the season with this lad on the bench. Fair enough, but THB was one of the best CBs in the championship at just 20 so the age is irrelevant here. 2 hours ago, James said: Let’s be honest, if he was “absolute quality” he’d already be starting for Forest wouldn’t he? They are a mid table side… Mid table in the Prem. We're in the championship. Remember how Hooiveld was absolutely quality for us in the Championship and then useless even fighting relegation in the league above? 2 hours ago, saintant said: Whatever JWP's attributes I don't think you can consider him an adequate replacement for Charles. 2 hours ago, saintant said: And removed THB and Charles. JWP is a fine replacement for Charles. There's a bit of misremembering going on - Charles was in and out of the team last season, he wasn't a nailed on starter. He also only scored 4 goals and got 2 assists - I'd be happy to predict now that JWP will get at least double both of those figures. 1 hour ago, Badger said: £4m plus sell on for Edozie doesn’t sound too bad to me 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: Unless it was structured weirdly, that’s an odd decision. Only paid £8m and only a year of his contract left. Edozie is second choice on the left wing at the moment, he has regularly come on and looked a threat at this level (and for what it's worth, has more championship goals and assists than Charles in far less appearances). If we were to let him go for four million we'd need to find someone for the same money or less who is just as good and is willing to be back up. 2
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