saintwbu Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Badger said: Christ, some memories- perhaps it’s mine - are fading or playing tricks on us. The two you mentioned are chalk and cheese. VVD was a Rolls Royce of a player. That was evident from his first game, great defender who glided around the pitch with ease. Bella-K and Salisu were like cart horses, and even then best sent to the glue factory. Shame about ABK, obviously had potential. You don’t get in the Germany WC squad at 22 without having something about you. But equally Germany with the likes of ABK in their squad don’t get past the group stages. I think so - ABK and Salisu not even remotely similar, Salisu couldn’t control his feet but was a decent last ditch defender. ABK could glide past players, carry the ball up the pitch, and seemed a level above when he was on it. But it only lasted about 3 games unfortunately, which probably explains why he ended up with us.
LiberalCommunist Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Christ, they hype train is on full throttle! I hope the lad doesn't read this and just keeps his head down. Very impressed so far, but its been three weeks! And besides, who ever keeps Jack out of the match day squad gets a +2 Bonus, so his ratings are a little warped! 2
LegalEagle Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Based on what we’ve seen so far he’s a distance better than THB and the best centre back we’ve had since VVD. 1
Stud mark of doom Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 21 minutes ago, LegalEagle said: Based on what we’ve seen so far he’s a distance better than THB and the best centre back we’ve had since VVD. I was thinking that - obviously a league down but can’t recall any of our centre backs dominating to anything like the same extent since VVD, who was exceptional. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, LegalEagle said: Based on what we’ve seen so far he’s a distance better than THB and the best centre back we’ve had since VVD. my god. Calm down 3
CB Fry Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 25 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: my god. Calm down These are the same people who go mad about players being "written off" after 3 games. Yeah, let's give him 3 games and start comparing him to one of the best CBs in world football of the last 2 decades. Funny how three games is plenty of evidence to make that kind of assessment. 1
MarkSFC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The lad is decent, no question, and looks excellent for Us NOW, IN THIS LEAGUE. Whether that translates into PL standard we will only know if and when we go up. So far, 30m minus him for THB is looking ok....plus Abbot is yet to come in and I have a sneaky feeling we will be thinking he is better.
Turkish Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: my god. Calm down Why? I think he's probably the best centre back we've ever had and the best to ever play in the championship. 3
Bobsmith Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I agree we don't know how good he will be in the prem, but he was captain of a mid table bundesliga club so there is no reason why he wouldn't be a solid performer at prem level
LegalEagle Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: These are the same people who go mad about players being "written off" after 3 games. Yeah, let's give him 3 games and start comparing him to one of the best CBs in world football of the last 2 decades. Funny how three games is plenty of evidence to make that kind of assessment. Read carefully Fry and slow down. Firstly, I caveated my comment by saying “Based on what we’ve seen so far” i.e. a snapshot. Secondly, I said “since VVD”. I did not compare him to VVD.
saintwbu Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, CB Fry said: These are the same people who go mad about players being "written off" after 3 games. Yeah, let's give him 3 games and start comparing him to one of the best CBs in world football of the last 2 decades. Funny how three games is plenty of evidence to make that kind of assessment. I didn’t see a comparison - it said best we’ve had since VVD. Given that most CB’s we’ve had since him have been absolutely shite, it doesn’t seem that far fetched, even if a little early to judge.
Lighthouse Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago TBF I’d never even heard of Kev two months ago but I knew he was better than Wes Hoedt. 1
Danbert Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Definitely better than Stephens and Bednarek. His distribution is poor though.
CB Fry Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 44 minutes ago, LegalEagle said: Read carefully Fry and slow down. Firstly, I caveated my comment by saying “Based on what we’ve seen so far” i.e. a snapshot. Secondly, I said “since VVD”. I did not compare him to VVD. 30 minutes ago, saintwbu said: I didn’t see a comparison - it said best we’ve had since VVD. Given that most CB’s we’ve had since him have been absolutely shite, it doesn’t seem that far fetched, even if a little early to judge. The rhetorical flourish you used is called "mentioned in the same sentence as..." which is basically comparing to that someone: because why else are you mentioning the other name? My point is it is a stupid comparison. If he keeps going like this Schlotterbeck could be the German making the most impact on Southampton since Hitler.
saintwbu Posted 19 minutes ago Posted 19 minutes ago 28 minutes ago, CB Fry said: The rhetorical flourish you used is called "mentioned in the same sentence as..." which is basically comparing to that someone: because why else are you mentioning the other name? My point is it is a stupid comparison. If he keeps going like this Schlotterbeck could be the German making the most impact on Southampton since Hitler. Good thing it wasn’t a comparison then…
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