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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Maybe not the marquee THB replacement some people wanted but highly rated and I hope he does excellently. Some absolute mongs weren't sure if we were going to replace THB after he was sold but obviously we were going to and we have even if he wasn't our first choice. Welcome Zach and good luck.

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sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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In terms of prudence, this could be quite a shrewd signing. I imagine our finances aren't in the greatest place after two seasons in the second tier. If we can get in the promotion positions by the turn of the New Year with this chap playing a role, we might have some change left over to invest in January.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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He's not the permanent fans perhaps wanted in Falchener or Affengruber but with time running out he seems to be a decent pick up. Forest fans rate him and that's usually a good indicator of talent. Welcome Zach.

Ok we didn't get the option but Forest buy players willy nilly so maybe if we do want him next season and his path is blocked there, hopefully he enjoys his time here and wants to stay. 

Schlotterbeck and Jack are good experience to help him out, 

SNSUN

SNSUN

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41 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Plenty of 5 foot 11 guys say they're 6 foot 2....

Transfermrkt (usually a reliable site) and a few other places list him as 6'2". I'm excited to see him play though I'd keep faith in Wood and Schlotterbeck for now.

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Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Just wonder how many games he’s going to get. I get the feeling Tonda will settle for a Wood / Deven S pairing as first choice. If one of those guys needs replacing I reckon he’ll pick Stephens for experience, suggesting we’d need to be in deep trouble to call on Abbott.

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Matthew Le God

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5 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Just wonder how many games he’s going to get. I get the feeling Tonda will settle for a Wood / Deven S pairing as first choice. If one of those guys needs replacing I reckon he’ll pick Stephens for experience, suggesting we’d need to be in deep trouble to call on Abbott.

I think Abbott will be regulary starting alongside Schlotterbeck relatively soon. Forest will expect him to get regular game time, if he doesn't the loan is pointless fir him and Forest. If he is 4th choice for us he won't even be on the bench. If he is 3rd choice, you rarely sub your centre backs to have fresh legs, like you do with strikers and other positions.

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Tamesaint

Tamesaint

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

I think Abbott will be regulary starting alongside Schlotterbeck relatively soon. Forest will expect him to get regular game time, if he doesn't the loan is pointless fir him and Forest. If he is 4th choice for us he won't even be on the bench. If he is 3rd choice, you rarely sub your centre backs to have fresh legs, like you do with strikers and other positions.

Let's MLG , MLG. 😀

How do you know Forest expect him to get regular game time? If he turns out to be a Mason Holgate he will get returned to Forest. He will have to earn his place in any squad.

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Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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7 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

I think Abbott will be regulary starting alongside Schlotterbeck relatively soon. Forest will expect him to get regular game time, if he doesn't the loan is pointless fir him and Forest. If he is 4th choice for us he won't even be on the bench. If he is 3rd choice, you rarely sub your centre backs to have fresh legs, like you do with strikers and other positions.

Except when in the Millwall game Stephens replaced Schlotterbeck in the 87th minute. Strange that. Maybe other other examples. [MLG mode off]

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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2 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Except when in the Millwall game Stephens replaced Schlotterbeck in the 87th minute. Strange that. Maybe other other examples. [MLG mode off]

That in part was probably due to him being new, tiring and only joining a few days beforehand. Subbing centre backs for non injury reasons is very rare.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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8 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

Let's MLG , MLG. 😀

How do you know Forest expect him to get regular game time? If he turns out to be a Mason Holgate he will get returned to Forest. He will have to earn his place in any squad.

Because it doesn't benefit the player or Forest for him to be on our bench as 3rd choice or not even in our matchday squad as 4th choice. If that were the plan he'd be better off staying as a backup at Premier League Forest like he was last year.

Tamesaint

Tamesaint

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3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Because it doesn't benefit the player or Forest for him to be on our bench as 3rd choice or not even in our matchday squad as 4th choice. If that were the plan he'd be better off staying as a backup at Premier League Forest like he was last year.

How do you know that he will be good enough for us? Mason Holgate wasn't and was returned to Everton.

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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5 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

That in part was probably due to him being new, tiring and only joining a few days beforehand. Subbing centre backs for non injury reasons is very rare.

Yep - you said it rarely happens because of a CB tiring like a striker, but now you’re saying that was probably due to him being new and tiring? In other words, it does happen and it happened very recently. It’s probably happened a whole bunch of other times, but I can’t be bothered to look that up for all teams across all divisions in all leagues. Maybe AI can help you prove your point?

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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11 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Yep - you said it rarely happens because of a CB tiring like a striker, but now you’re saying that was probably due to him being new and tiring? In other words, it does happen and it happened very recently. It’s probably happened a whole bunch of other times, but I can’t be bothered to look that up for all teams across all divisions in all leagues. Maybe AI can help you prove your point?

Are you disagreeing that centre backs are substituted significantly less than strikers, wingers and central midfielders? In the vast majority of games the centre backs that start a game, finish the game. I haven't said they never are subbed, but it is rate in comparison to many other positions.

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Patches O Houlihan

Patches O Houlihan

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19 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Spoke to the guy who brought him through in the Forest academy, apparently he's shit hot and a great lad.

Apparently he was invited to train with the full England squad recently, which is not common for nippers - you'd imagine he must be quite handy to have had that invite.

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22 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Hope the lad does well for us and is not a disappointment like Ronnie Edwards who was promoted as another Bobby Moore by the owner of Peterborough.

Yep. The problem with Edwards is that he wasn't suited to being a CB or RB. Seems to be doing well in midfield for QPR though. 

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Are you disagreeing that centre backs are substituted significantly less than strikers, wingers and central midfielders? In the vast majority of games the centre backs that start a game, finish the game. I haven't said they never are subbed, but it is rate in comparison to many other positions.

Obviously not - but I think ‘rare’ is too extreme a description. Getting back to the original point though, what I was trying to say was that I’d imagine that it would take some time before Tonda trusted Abbott to start ahead of Wood and/or Stephens as they are seniors in the squad. Having said that, in his recent interview he indicated his admiration of Abbott, which may translate to “he’s better than what we have”. In Tonda we trust.

benjii

benjii

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Zach A-bbott Bot Bot

Push attackers, Saints for me

 

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Gonna score a goal, you'll see

 

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He fucking hates Pompey

 

On the left, on the right 

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Thanks.

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