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Naaaaaa, we need someone with proven credentials at this level or indeed any level in English football.

 

So no random dutch manager #132 or Alan Shearer who would be a risk as all he has done so far is to fail to stop Newcastle getting relegated. Although, to be fair to him, I don't think anyone could have stopped them going down but still... we need a proven manager!

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Well they were abysmal, no support play, couldn't put a pass within 5 yards of their own players, no passion or commitment. Villa were light years ahead.

Ok he has inherited a squad full of prima donnas but what about pattern to play and changing when its not working.

If you looked at Martins and Viduka they didnt have anyone within 20 yards when they won the ball.

He bought on Owen to play up front but why didnt he then tell Duff to stay wide and create space? Every time newcastle got forward there was no width and Villa just had to crowd out the middle.

 

Shearer to Saints...no thanks.

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a) why we he come

 

b) how could we afford him

 

c) why would we want him

 

?

 

A) Wife has family at Hedge End and still has local ties. She used to work for British Gas Southampton.

He may want to build a club his way rather than somewhere like Newcastle that will creat extra pressure.

 

B) Good managers pay for themselves - ask Blackburn and Big Sam how much he has saved them since going there. Billy Davies at Forest....2 managers many on here said they wouldnt want here as no good!!!

 

C) He undoubtedly has contacts in the game and would attract players to come and play for him.

 

Again I state I dont want him here going by the games I have seen him manage.

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For a start I can't imagine Shearer being in too much or a rush to get back into management anywhere. Whoever does take us over I doubt would be able to afford him or anyone very exciting, however, managing in the lower leagues is a bit different from managing in the Premiership (ask Ince) and I'm sure AS cdajfu.

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I don't want him, he's been shocking for Newcastle, watched a couple of games of them and they had no fight, they only needed a draw to stay up today against a team who has been on a pretty dismal run of form, and they didn't show any fight and passion to keep themself up and were lucky to only lose by one goal tbh, much rather have someone with experience at this kind of level

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No thanks - 5 points from 8 games = 0.625 per game = 24 points over a season.

 

Compared with just under a point per game in the season up to the point where he took over.

 

Shearer has been a disaster - he is the reason for Newcastle's relegation - but blamed the players publicly on Sky.

 

No thanks.

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He wouldn't be my first choice but he is definitely a good option. As others have said on here, he has ties down here and it would probably be an excellent job for him to build a club up from scratch. If he's serious about being a top manager one day then where better to start?!!

 

Even if in two or three seasons he went back to the Toon, it would mean he'd have done a great job for us.

With a good owner with a proper vision and plan he would be a good choice because it would certainly be easier to get players.

 

But...lets worry about having a club first!!

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Why on earth are people so against Shearer but would love MLT to do the job, someone who has even less experience. No thanks to either of them from me!

 

Exactly my thoughts too - this is the reason that I am so against 'Legends' managing teams. Newcastle got desperate and went for the 'fairytale' appointment as opposed to the 'business sense' appointment (or sticking with SA as it happens). It's failed and now the latest club hero finds himself the man that took them down - sad time for them.

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Gob****e like Paul Ince. No thank you. Actually, a gob****e is probably a bit harsh, that should just been reserved for Paul Ince. But Shearer is like Southgate, tries to sound intelligent, says the right things, is very humble but hasn't got a fecking clue. Whilst Shearer and Southgate convincingly look like they know what they are doing or saying, Ince sounds like someone with limited vocab, devoid of any man management skills or ideas on 'patterning play.'

 

Anyone who knows anything can clearly see that he cannot 'coach' a team or make get the best out of a team like a Martin O'Neill, Gordon Strachan etc. They are just 'names', that's all.

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At the risk of getting an infraction I have to say that although I disagree with Dalek about GH

IMHO Dalek is no worse than some of those who keep on and on and on about RL, LC, L Mac, etc.

 

No infractions, but I think we can do without his constant Hoddle love in on a thread which is nothing to do with it.

 

A HCDAJFU thread or if Hoddle is linked with us then fair enough. Fact is he has had nothing to do with Saints for 8 years and the constant trolling is getting tiresome.

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If Shearer couldnt keep Newcastle up with the players and money he had,then theres no way he would do a decent job for us.

Its the same reason i wouldnt want MLT to manage us.

What money did shearer have to spend? He has only been there for 8 matches.

Not that I think he would do us any good though.

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It was nice to see there is a team out there with much-higher paid players than ours and who care even less about their club.

That must be the best squad on paper to ever go down (?), and they deserved it with consistent apathy.

As for Shearer coming here to work for maybe 1/20th of his current salary, I think he may feel he has unfinished business up there.

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Has it been disbanded already?

 

No but we are in admin , 50 days plus and still no takeover. Do you honestly believe Alan is on the train down here ready for a 9 am press conference at St Marys????

 

 

Lets get a deal on the table before silly talk Eh??

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No but we are in admin , 50 days plus and still no takeover. Do you honestly believe Alan is on the train down here ready for a 9 am press conference at St Marys????

 

 

 

Nope.

 

Nor do I believe the club has been disbanded.

 

Also, don't we already have a manager / head coach, and wouldn't we need to get rid of him before looking for another one?

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Watched the game with someone who has no knowledge of football. The immortal words "those in stripes don't seem to have any idea, the brown ones are so organised in comparison......"

 

Which summed it up. Compare that game and Newcastle with the way that Scunny & Millwall played at Wembley, the passion. effot and commitment, the whole tactical changes made a much better game. Watching Newcastle on telly was like watching Saints in most of their televised games this year, just not up to the mark

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what chance?

(no chance!)

 

When I read this I agreed... 100% no chance, I thought.....but now I'm not so sure(?)

Fairly obviously I thought, Shearer / Newcastle lad / England CF / legend etc, of course he'll stay next season...but after watching the BBC site / and interview with him ..I'm asking myself ..is there some chance he'd come to Saints next season ..and I can't convince myself that it's such a no-brainer.

 

Apart from relegation, we know how difficult it is to get back up again - Newcastle have a HUGE debt problem, (our entire overdraft doen't cover Michael Owen's salary for one season,) and he's not even a first choice player. It's hard to find a team when looking at their expensive squad and I'm wondering if they are in free fall and they have much worse to come. Listening to Alan Shearer's answers, he doesn't sound so keen to stay remembering that it was only an 8 match assignment with Joe Kinnear recovering from a heart attack Like Lawrie Mac; Shearer's Geordie dialect doesn't sit easy on the ear in Hampshire (any more than Ruperts Uni. accent) but I've always thought that Shearer was shrewd and I think he's playing his cards close to his chest on this one. SO ....would he come to Saints? Mmm?

 

Being here as a boy, he'll have vivid memories of So'ton ...isn't his wife a local girl?...Matt Le Tissier and he grew up alongside each other at The Dell, even his old coach Dave Merrington (another Scouse) is still around...and his assistant at Newcastle is Iain Dowie (no stranger to Saints) and perhaps League 1 would be a less stressful managerial start than trying to resurrect Newcastle overnight.

 

There are a lot of IF' s here, starting with a successful Pinnacle offer, but if MLT could persuade AS to come here .......just now it maybe a Football Manager fantasy game, but I'm not SO sure as I was that the idea is a non-starter.

 

NOTE; Look at the BBC site yourself and listen ..also take in the extra item about stress for football fans in relegated sides. Interesting !

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I am not overly impressed with Shearer's managerial stint at Newcastle, but he was taking over a side who have been on a downward spiral for a long long time and only for a handful of games.

 

Hard really to judge him on that but I must admit I was surprised by his choice of sidekick, Dowie. For me Dowie has got failure tatooed on his forehead and I would hate to see him come here.

 

As for Shearer, the jury's out.

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If anyone other than Shearer took over Newcastle for the last few games, and they'd played as poorly he'd be getting some serious clog from the media. Had it been Sven that couldn't catch Hull,took 4 points from Pompey, Boro and Fulham at home, and then surrendered like that againt Villa, the press would be calling it failure.

There has been nothing in Shearer's short managerial career that sugests he'll be the answer to Newcastle's problems, let alone ours.

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I'm not totally against it; I think he'd try to do things properly and have good discipline, work ethic etc. Whether or not he'd be a success, who can say? Not many thought Roy Keane would have as succesful a season first time round, and let's face facts - we're not going to be getting Ancelotti, Hiddink, Wenger... less so than ever in league one. I wouldn't be totally aghast if he was appointed, provided he also had a decent back room staff and was willing to apply lessons he learned into his practise.

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I hope not. As much as loved him as a player I would much prefer an experienced manager.

 

The question is, how do ex players or anyone else, get to be an experienced manager? They start in the lower leagues and work their way up. I think it has escaped some that we are now in the lower leagues ourselves.

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