Sheaf Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The latest futille attempt of masking the situation. C'mon Skates, games up... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/PFC-Statement-433.aspx They are completely contradicting themselves in this statement. The very first sentence reads 'Portsmouth Football Club has NOT been formally served with a winding up petition', yet later on they go on to say they can't understand this action by the HMRC. Which is it then? Have they or haven't they served the order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 (edited) The latest futille attempt of masking the situation. C'mon Skates, games up... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/PFC-Statement-433.aspx Pure comedy - they don't seem to know that a petition has been formally served even though they dispute it and don't seem to know if the VAT, PAYE and NI contributions have been paid or if they "are about to be paid"....presumably from the sales proceeds of their players...assuming the buying clubs don't decide that now is a great time to re-negotiate....or if there is any NI and PAYE to pay this month...... which if there isn't means the players haven't been paid again and can therefore leave for free. Edited 30 December, 2009 by Katalinic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 I've never visited the place, but it sounds horrible! Despite all the money that's flowed through the club in recent seasons, it seems not a penny has been lavished on the stadium itself (Recaro seats excluded, these are obviously important for any self respecting, big club). Oh make no mistake, FP is one of the worst football grounds in the country. The facilities for away supporters are practically nonexistent. It doesn't deserve Premier League football or any football in the Football League for that matter. It's a dreadful place to spend precious time which you'll never get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Just on SSN Pompey not received offically notice and want to go to court in January to get HMRC to withdraw winding up notice. ...... Goodluck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The latest futille attempt of masking the situation. C'mon Skates, games up... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/PFC-Statement-433.aspx We havent been issued with a winding up petition....... We will request a hearing in January to get the High court to force HMRC to withdraw their demands :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Pure comedy - they don't seem to know that a petition has been formally served even though they dispute it and don't seem to know if the VAT, PAYE and NI contributions have been paid or if they "are about to be paid"....presumably from the sales proceeds of their players...assuming the buying clubs don't decide that now is a great time to re-negotiate. But they do want a court hearing to force HMRC to withdraw their demands.......... Those will be the demands they haven't been formally notified of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The latest futille attempt of masking the situation. C'mon Skates, games up... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/PFC-Statement-433.aspx That's one hell of a statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 But they do want a court hearing to force HMRC to withdraw their demands.......... Those will be the demands they haven't been formally notified of The statement reads like a sketch from Monty Python. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The statement reads like a sketch from Monty Python. This 'ere petition (which was not served on me but which I want to be withdrawn ) is an ex-petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 that is a very funny rushed statement, someone has paniced and typed it out, without reading it back to check if it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 This 'ere petition (which was not served on me but which I want to be withdrawn ) is an ex-petition. Lol. Just when you think it can't get any funnier something even more hilarious happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The latest futille attempt of masking the situation. C'mon Skates, games up... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/PFC-Statement-433.aspx This is just pure comedy at its best. :smt044 We deny that its happened & want to go to court to get it withdrawn. Have you just employed Chemical Alli as your spokesman. You cant have it both ways you've either not had a winding up petition, which case you don't need to worry. Or you have & want it withdrawn. CLUCK CLUCK GIBBER GIBBER GIBBER. This is a crisis, in fact if you've got a moment Baldrick its a 12 story crisis, with a magnificent entrance hall carpeting throughout, & an enormous sign on the roof saying this is a large Crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2788567/Pompey-face-wind-up-petition.html#mySunComments Read the rather moving piece by 'PompeyAnt' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Panic over, skates can breathe a sigh of relief. The club say they think HRMC have made some sort of mistake (JUst on sky sports) and that it will be withdrawn in a couple of days. ....... bit like the transfer embargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintds Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Which team was that from then? Liverpool after getting beaten? Or the prawn sarnie lot from Surrey? It was the prawn eating variety based in the Surrey/Devon area. I'm sure the Scousers were equally unimpressed though, regardless of the result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2788567/Pompey-face-wind-up-petition.html#mySunComments Read the rather moving piece by 'PompeyAnt' Wouldn't expect anything less from a Sun reader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Panic over, skates can breathe a sigh of relief. The club say they think HRMC have made some sort of mistake (JUst on sky sports) and that it will be withdrawn in a couple of days. ....... bit like the transfer embargo what puzzles me, is that this was issued before Christmas - surely they would have known about it since then? so why haven't they tried to fight it before now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 what puzzles me, is that this was issued before Christmas - surely they would have known about it since then? so why haven't they tried to fight it before now? See post 5066 for the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBKujPBQwM This was from Sky Sports about an hour ago for those who missed it. Pretty much explains everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBKujPBQwM This was from Sky Sports about an hour ago for those who missed it. Pretty much explains everything. James 'Haddock' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 It might literally be a wind-up petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Peter Storrie has at least been trying to find new investors in Australia: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBKujPBQwM This was from Sky Sports about an hour ago for those who missed it. Pretty much explains everything. James HADDOCK that is F**KING hilarious. Also that interview with the first fan. Just waiting for the money to come through from abroad then it will all be all-right. They really are sticking there heads in the sand. When will they wake up & smell the coffee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 the protest plans are in full swing ''Picket the players entrance!!! That would send a firm message to the board if we prevented tonights game from going ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Some cracking comments.... http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Pompey-face-windingup-petition.5946815.jp Lol................never seen so many 'report as unsuitable' in my life, Guess the Blue few are upset!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 James HADDOCK that is F**KING hilarious. Also that interview with the first fan. Just waiting for the money to come through from abroad then it will all be all-right. They really are sticking there heads in the sand. When will they wake up & smell the coffee? Yeh, it's diffuclt bringing money in from abroad apparently; I guess you have to stand in line at customs for a long time etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Also, and I laughed.....on talk sport AD read out an e-mail from a 'lady' in Skatesmouth, saying that the likes of John Terry etc, should all donate a weeks wages to save her club. I nearly crashed the car laughing!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Lol................never seen so many 'report as unsuitable' in my life, Guess the Blue few are upset!!!!! There's a guy on there who reckons things can't be too bad because the price of a replica kit has come down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Shambles one thing is certaim if they do owe HMRC it must be PAYE AND NIC not VAT because the vat on their gate money must be very small beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Also, and I laughed.....on talk sport AD read out an e-mail from a 'lady' in Skatesmouth, saying that the likes of John Terry etc, should all donate a weeks wages to save her club. I nearly crashed the car laughing!!!!! What like all their players did when we were in admin LMFAO Hope they dont go out of business just relegated and have no money next year after the firesale of players from relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Also, and I laughed.....on talk sport AD read out an e-mail from a 'lady' in Skatesmouth, saying that the likes of John Terry etc, should all donate a weeks wages to save her club. I nearly crashed the car laughing!!!!! sad thing she believes it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Actually, if you read it properly PFC are up to date with HMRC to Nov 09. This demand is for this month (ie Dec 09's) money! We're also up to date with payments to Watford - next installments are due in Jan. As for you Bexy, wash your mouth out with soap. If HMRC have put in a winding up petition then you have missed the December payment. I'd be amazed if they had done it in anticipation of a missed payment. The club's installment deal with HMRC will have been formally agreed in writing and they have missed a payment. "The cheque is in the post" / "dificulties in setting up a new account" won't wash with HMRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 You may be correct but why would they issue a winding up order for Decembers tax a week before the end of the month?? I doesn`t make sense. What about the money that you owe for Glen Johnson, even though you have since sold him on. You are almost making it sound like "this is all one big mistake"! The payment will have been due on the 19th or so and when it wasn't received in went the petition. (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The club's installment deal with HMRC will have been formally agreed in writing and they have missed a payment. "The cheque is in the post" / "dificulties in setting up a new account" won't wash with HMRC. Yes, but everyone (in Portsmouth) knows that it takes months to import money from offshore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The latest futille attempt of masking the situation. C'mon Skates, games up... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/PFC-Statement-433.aspx "VAT, PAYE and National Insurance Contributions which either have been, or are about to be paid, or are disputed."[/Quote] So "the cheque is in the post"? Nice try. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Yes, but everyone (in Portsmouth) knows that it takes months to import money from offshore Fair enough... I suppose it takes time with shipping and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 (edited) I'll be watching their match with Arsenal tonight with interest, I'm sure their reaction is going to be 'warm' if the owner turns up... They seem to want Gold and Sullivan to take over...if they're sensible business types, they will see that investing in Pompey isn't worthwhile at all!! West Ham are likely to be much more profitable. Or, they want to start AFC Skatesmouth with Westwood as a director...ROFL etc. Edited 30 December, 2009 by Thorpe-le-Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 So basically if The Arab doesn't want an administrator running the club and doesn't cough up what's owed there will be no Portsmouth FC as of the 10th Feb. Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 So basically if The Arab doesn't want an administrator running the club and doesn't cough up what's owed there will be no Portsmouth FC as of the 10th Feb. Is that right? That seems to be the jist of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 What exactly is so difficult about clearing previous debts? Liebherr managed it fairly quickly. Write a cheque, hand it over, pleasure doing business with ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 So basically if The Arab doesn't want an administrator running the club and doesn't cough up what's owed there will be no Portsmouth FC as of the 10th Feb. Is that right? A week before my birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 What exactly is so difficult about clearing previous debts? Liebherr managed it fairly quickly. Write a cheque, hand it over, pleasure doing business with ya. their problem is that they have debts to anyone and everyone in football, so it's pretty much a mangled mess. With us we only really had the stadium debt, which was held by Barclays, so it was a ''simpler'' process to sort out. This will take a brave person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The scary thing for Pompey is the ground is secured on a loan to Chanrai who is business partners with an Israeli property developer. Also the land around it is still owned by Gaydamak. Could they actually want them to go pop so they can build something decent, like a car park, on Crap Nottarf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Panic over, skates can breathe a sigh of relief. The club say they think HRMC have made some sort of mistake (JUst on sky sports) and that it will be withdrawn in a couple of days. ....... bit like the transfer embargo dont forget you get cautioned if you are only helping with enquiries , aka HR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 Someone needs to tell the Pompey Board a winding up order is not a wind up, it's the real thing. If things are as serious as it seems, I expect the club to go into Administration within the next fortnight. If they pass that period then some idiot has decided to bail them out again but why would they when they can use that money to pick up a debt free CCC club that Portsmouth will then aspire to. I say aspire because the alternative is extinction As the Pompey supporters say ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 I would like to thank Anti Niemi in his contribution,taking the wage and making one appearance. I hope he is a high earner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The scary thing for Pompey is the ground is secured on a loan to Chanrai who is business partners with an Israeli property developer. Also the land around it is still owned by Gaydamak. Could they actually want them to go pop so they can build something decent, like a car park, on Crap Nottarf? or something more in keeping with Portsmouth's status.......like a Primark and Lidl's...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 The London Gazette has an online section and I searched and could not find the winding up order. Surely if there is on it could be found? If not Pompey could be right. Anyone else done a search and found proof positive : http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 30 December, 2009 Share Posted 30 December, 2009 I'm sure their reaction is going to be 'warm' if the owner turns up... Not likely. I don't think he's actually ever set foot in Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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