itchen_dan Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 As per title. According to the Mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-transfer-news-blues-line-1781261 I think we all know what NC would do with that offer. Think he's been signing of the season. Consistently consistent and is one hell of a prospect. Would be foolish to let him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 He's been absolutely superb. I think I've only seen one player give him the run around this year. Chelsea can poke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 He would do very well for Chelsea considering they don't really have a decent RB IMO. £7M is a fair bit of money but considering he's English and this is NC, I can't see it happening. He has been excellent for us this season, terrific signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 For me he's vying with Morgan for player of the season. Why would we want to let him go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 23 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 23 March, 2013 He's been absolutely superb. I think I've only seen one player give him the run around this year. Chelsea can poke it. Ill be honest, I was unsure when we signed him as he didn't really stand out for me whenever I've seen him play for Palace including when we played them last season. Lallana and Lambert made him look bang average at times but my god has he impressed me this year. As you said, Chelsea can poke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 So essentially the story is "Clyne watched by Chelsea scouts at England U21 game". Hmm. I agree that we'd probably tell them to shove it, but Nathaniel has proven himself very capable at this level and may feel that he's good enough to play for Chelski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 He's been absolutely superb. I think I've only seen one player give him the run around this year. Chelsea can poke it. Carrol, ba and van persi in 5seconds... But fir his first prem season he has been good and is a solid fullback. Sound potential. Lets not embarras ourselves with signing of the season talk just yet. Michu has scored a fair few for less than 2million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 He also needs to get some good boots... Slips over like hes running on ice ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 How much did we pay for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 Carrol, ba and van persi in 5seconds... But fir his first prem season he has been good and is a solid fullback. Sound potential. Lets not embarras ourselves with signing of the season talk just yet. Michu has scored a fair few for less than 2million I'm pretty sure everyone on here is saying that Clyne is OUR (Southampton FC's) signing of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 How much did we pay for him? The article tells you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 NC would never sell for £7mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 Only £7m? Pah. The Don would not even return their call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 He's stopped falling over, which is great. Very good player who makes a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 23 March, 2013 Share Posted 23 March, 2013 £7M is not to be sneezed at, and if they can throw in Ivanovic too .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Put a 0 on the end of that price and throw in Aztepullia and maybe I'd be happy. To think if the "top 6" could offer first team to a good/young player like real teams they would pay 1/100th of the price they seem to end up paying these days... Playing over paid washed out stars in these positions seems to back fire every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Clyne has had a solid season, however both clyne and shaw really need to improve their crossing. Do that and we would have 2 of the best fullbacks in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 both clyne and shaw really need to improve their crossing. Really? Shaw in particular is a great crosser of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 The article tells you. That's not the answer to the question he asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Really? Shaw in particular is a great crosser of the ball. How many assists does he have this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 How many assists does he have this season? I get fed up with arguments like these. It doesn't mean he isn't a good crosser if someone else doesn't put their chance in the net does it? FWIW he has at least one for the Puncheon goal at the Bridge. Let the pages of silly arguments continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Unless we go down I cant see any of out best players leaving at any price in the summer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 (edited) How many assists does he have this season? That is a bizarre way to look at it. A superb cross knocked down by a player and then someone else has a shot that goes in wouldn't could as an assist for the original crosser of the ball. Nor would a superb cross that leads to an effort on goal or a chance for an effort on goal. Judge their crossing on its own merit of being a good cross or not, not on if someone puts the ball in the net afterwards. Shaw and Clyne have both put in some superb crosses this season on numerous occasions. Edited 24 March, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 I get fed up with arguments like these. It doesn't mean he isn't a good crosser if someone else doesn't put their chance in the net does it? FWIW he has at least one for the Puncheon goal at the Bridge. Let the pages of silly arguments continue. it's called a discussion. 0 premier league assists for young shaw btw. The one at the bridge was Ramirez. The skill of putting a ball on a plate is very relevant for a modern fullback. Look at how many fantastic crosses we scored from the fullbacks last season and L1. As much as he can't defend, I think fox got about 13 last season and has a wand of a left foot. Think of Lambert at fratton or jay-rod against arsenal in pre-season. Clyne & Shaw are miles better than Butterfield, Richardson & Fox in almost every other respect. However neither are anywhere near the finished article yet (understandibly), and this is one of the main areas they need to improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Of course they have put in some, but they have also put in many **** ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 To be fair, Ashley Cole only has 2 assists this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 So if the dark lord NC is in it for profit, he would sell Clyne for 7M, Shaw for 15M, RL for 6M, AL for 10M, Gaston for 10M (cut his losses), Spider for 10M - there's close to 60M - even before considering the rest of the players, and cost of selling the club and other assets. Represents a great return on investment, and a mighty bonus, and free to move on to the next investment! Anyone else think this more than a money making exercise for NC? Just asking like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 £7M is not to be sneezed at, and if they can throw in Ivanovic too .... You Winkle! Ivanovic is a bigger liability than Jos in front of his own goal (sorry Jos). Jeez when are people going to wise up to the fact that we are no longer a chuffin charity, £7m for Clyne to Chelsea would be daylight robbery put a 1 or even a 2 in front of that and you are closer to the mark. Anyway Chelsea aren't looking at him: he's bloody English!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 How many assists does he have this season? Wow, that took me a few minutes to realise why you'd asked that question. Then it hit me, if a player has no assists it means he can't cross right? I probably agree with you that they can both improve their games in respect to crossing the ball to some extent, but they've proven this season that they've got pretty decent crossing ability already. Just because strikers fail to score from the chances they create it doesn't mean they can't cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 If we are looking to sell our best players in the summer every time a club comes knocking then we deserve to struggle.the only way forward is to keep hold of the rising stars and rise with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 According to the Mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-transfer-news-blues-line-1781261 Lazy journalism. Just another story that Arsechelmanpool want to buy a player from any one of those unfashionable clubs likely to finish below 8th place in the Prem this year. Southampton? Oh yes, they always sell their best young players like Walcott, Bale and Chamberlain, so lets print a story about them selling someone else, but as Shaw's transfer to Arsechelmanpool has been done to death who else have they got? Does it have to be true? Come off it, since when did that it matter? There's a rumour that Southampton have now got wealthy owners. Don't know about that, haven't heard about any Arab-American consortium taking them over, and no Russian connection, so can't be true. Just run the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 (edited) Lazy journalism. Just another story that Arsechelmanpool want to buy a player from any one of those unfashionable clubs likely to finish below 8th place in the Prem this year. Southampton? Oh yes, they always sell their best young players like Walcott, Bale and Chamberlain, so lets print a story about them selling someone else, but as Shaw's transfer to Arsechelmanpool has been done to death who else have they got? Does it have to be true? Come off it, since when did that it matter? There's a rumour that Southampton have now got wealthy owners. Don't know about that, haven't heard about any Arab-American consortium taking them over, and no Russian connection, so can't be true. Just run the story. The only lazy thing here is the traditional lazy forum response to newspaper story people don't want to read. Its fair to say you know nothing about what Chelsea want to do and this journalist knows far more than you will ever know. Edited 24 March, 2013 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Lazy journalism. Just another story that Arsechelmanpool want to buy a player from any one of those unfashionable clubs likely to finish below 8th place in the Prem this year. Southampton? Oh yes, they always sell their best young players like Walcott, Bale and Chamberlain, so lets print a story about them selling someone else, but as Shaw's transfer to Arsechelmanpool has been done to death who else have they got? Does it have to be true? Come off it, since when did that it matter? There's a rumour that Southampton have now got wealthy owners. Don't know about that, haven't heard about any Arab-American consortium taking them over, and no Russian connection, so can't be true. Just run the story. This. Once we have secured our Prem status for next year, the thought of selling our first choice Eng U21 full back for £7M is absurd. Were Clyne to want away after a Chelsea approach, with three years on the contract, Cortese would ask for a sum that would make Abramovich wince!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 It is true we are a selling club, but all clubs are Arsenal with RVP, Manure with Ronaldo, its just the level of cash we receive nowadays that goes up,certainly enough to buy a good replacement if the unthinkable happens. 7M though they can Jog on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 v.good move for nathaniel. congratulations & best wishes to him & his crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Lazy journalism. Just another story that Arsechelmanpool want to buy a player from any one of those unfashionable clubs likely to finish below 8th place in the Prem this year. Southampton? Oh yes, they always sell their best young players like Walcott, Bale and Chamberlain, so lets print a story about them selling someone else, but as Shaw's transfer to Arsechelmanpool has been done to death who else have they got? Does it have to be true? Come off it, since when did that it matter? There's a rumour that Southampton have now got wealthy owners. Don't know about that, haven't heard about any Arab-American consortium taking them over, and no Russian connection, so can't be true. Just run the story. Exactly this. On a personal note, I think if we did sell either Shaw, Clyne or Schneiderlin this summer it would make a bit of a mockery of the competing for Europe, challenging the big boys talk. It would serve only to highlight that, despite our new found wealth since our last spell in the top flight, there are still a hugely powerful big 5 or 6 clubs who will always be able to pick off players from plucky little Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 So if the dark lord NC is in it for profit, he would sell Clyne for 7M, Shaw for 15M, RL for 6M, AL for 10M, Gaston for 10M (cut his losses), Spider for 10M - there's close to 60M - even before considering the rest of the players, and cost of selling the club and other assets. Represents a great return on investment, and a mighty bonus, and free to move on to the next investment! Anyone else think this more than a money making exercise for NC? Just asking like!er, NC hasn't put a penny of his own money into the cub, so he won't get any return on `his' investment. The Liebherrs might though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Exactly this. On a personal note, I think if we did sell either Shaw, Clyne or Schneiderlin this summer it would make a bit of a mockery of the competing for Europe, challenging the big boys talk. It would serve only to highlight that, despite our new found wealth since our last spell in the top flight, there are still a hugely powerful big 5 or 6 clubs who will always be able to pick off players from plucky little Southampton. But this time round we will not be bullied we do not need the cash so if we do part with key players then rest assured it will be for big money not a poultry 7million aka Ox, I am not worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 To paraphrase one of the comments from a Chelsea fan, Azpilicueta is only 23, the phrase 'long-term successor' therefore makes little sense. Also Chelsea has a great propsect coming through in Todd Kane. They also bought Wallace recently from Fluminense. That said, £7m is bobbins for Chelsea so if it will strengthen their squad next season there is no reason why they won't make an offer. Premiership survival is a must for us to keep these young talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 But this time round we will not be bullied we do not need the cash so if we do part with key players then rest assured it will be for big money not a poultry 7million aka Ox, I am not worried "poultry"? I suspect fowl play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 But this time round we will not be bullied we do not need the cash so if we do part with key players then rest assured it will be for big money not a poultry 7million aka Ox, I am not worried Chamberlain went for more like £1om with add ons. Be worried. He left Palace for Prem football, why not leave Saints for CL football? The down side to all this interest is that we are going to have to pay bigger and bigger wages to keep our best players. Hopefully none will become millstones round our necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Carrol, ba and van persi in 5seconds... But fir his first prem season he has been good and is a solid fullback. Sound potential. Lets not embarras ourselves with signing of the season talk just yet. Michu has scored a fair few for less than 2million It's pretty obvious he's talking about saints signing of the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 I would hope we'd either keep him or ask a lot more than that. I think he'd be very hard to replace, who was the last great right back we had before him? I'm very surprised somebody said Shaw's crosses are poor, he puts some beautiful balls in and is incredible at getting into the optimum position for the cross too. The only player we've wanted to keep that we sold in recent years is AOC and when most of us heard the price, we said fair enough. I'd like to think that's how it'd be with anyone we sell in the near future. 7m doesn't make me think "Fair enough". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 It depends if we really want to challenge next year, we need to keep all our best players and add to them. Ergo no amount of money would be enough. We don't want to become a selling club again, undergoing heartache whenever a player gets good enough that a big club wants them. If the player's head gets turned it could prove tricky, but he's under contract and any team wanting him would have to play top dollar. Of course, if we go down (touch wood) it's all a moot point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 This was always going to be the problem with buying young English talent. Good position to be in though. Surprised cork hasn't been linked with anyone yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Biggest surprise (not) is that these stories always come up just before we're due to play the 'big' club concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 To be fair Chelsea could well be looking at Clyne and it won't matter what Cortese or anyone wants, it'll all be down to Clyne himself. We've seen this so many times before, clubs start using the press to unsettle a player, player ends up leaving, personally I think he'll end up at Man U, we may have one more season with him at the most. These clubs always get their player, the only thing being in the prem will ensure is that we'll get a decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 Get fuϲked Chelsea and take your Rubles with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 To be fair to Clyne he is on record several times as saying he came here to play first team football and that was why he rejected other clubs. If that was honest comments then you'd think he might stay here for a while yet until he's an established premier league player and can move to a bigger club as a first choice player. He probably will move on when the time is right and its up tous to get the maximum money possible and make sure its invested in the team to replace him properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 24 March, 2013 Share Posted 24 March, 2013 I would imagine that every EPL clubs' scouts have been watching Clyne this season. Don't worry boys its only the Mirror and they have only got one SFC story right this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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