Surman's "come and get me" cry?

[Big_Bald_Si]

Just read this on the BBC:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/7777584.stm

 

Thought he was Saints through and through? Evidently not.

 

Can't blame him though, he's a decent player, but not sure how much he'd shine in the Premiership in all honesty.

[NickG]

just heard him on radio saying he is trying not to get to excited about the transfer until it happens -guess that means he was to go!

[krissyboy31]

Mentioned earlier in another thread. According to Weston, the quote was taken out of context.

 

 

http://saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=132484#post132484

[beatlesaint]

Matt Le Tiss said on Sky Monday night he thought Surman lacked that bit of pace to become a premiership player.

 

I tend to agree, he is a bit slow......and he will have to learn not to chicken out of virtually every tackle like he did against Wolves.

 

Good for us, but for the Premiership ? Cant see it myself.

Still if its him or Lallana, rather than both, I would vote to keep Adam.

[NickG]

not sure what position a premiership club would want him as a starter to justify the fee?

[saintjinksie]

Matt Le Tiss said on Sky Monday night he thought Surman lacked that bit of pace to become a premiership player.

 

I tend to agree, he is a bit slow......and he will have to learn not to chicken out of virtually every tackle like he did against Wolves.

 

Good for us, but for the Premiership ? Cant see it myself.

Still if its him or Lallana, rather than both, I would vote to keep Adam.

 

surman is more effective in our team setup though. He is having to talk him self up to get the attention of bigger clubs than reading...

[Greenridge]

not sure what position a premiership club would want him as a starter to justify the fee?

 

It makes you wonder doesn't it. I can only imagine it will be one of the 'struggling' clubs but you never know in this game. It won't come as any surprise if he does depart and also as it now appears he's looking for a move it will fit nicely with RL who will be able to say 'we didn't want to sell him but he wanted to go'.

[Papa Shango]

Surman is nowhere near good enough for the Premiership.

[derry]

It's what he said, I heard the interview. If he goes to a premier club he will play a lot of reserve football.

 

In any event if Surman or Lallana are sold for decent fees it would suit me fine. Surman better than Lallana, but neither are delivering.

[Ash]

I tend to agree, he is a bit slow......and he will have to learn not to chicken out of virtually every tackle like he did against Wolves.

Not just Wolves, most games. Drew really needs to find some ********, if he plays with like that for us and he is a Saints supporter I dread to think how faggy he would be in any other team.

[sambosa75]

Surman is nowhere near good enough for the Premiership.

 

 

I totally agree. Decent player, especially at Championship level but ready to slot straight in the a Premier League first XI which seems to be what he thinks he's ready to do, he most certainly aint. Shame though as he is a local lad but he seems to rate himself a bit more than the majority of the fans do.

 

That said, hopefully his self-publicising will either put a lot of clubs off, or force them into bidding a good amount for his services.

 

I'd rather keep him as I think he is a decent player but I dont ever think he'll be a player who could grab a Premier League game by the scruff of its neck and stamp his authority on a match.

[Saint Fan CaM]

It's what he said, I heard the interview. If he goes to a premier club he will play a lot of reserve football.

 

In any event if Surman or Lallana are sold for decent fees it would suit me fine. Surman better than Lallana, but neither are delivering.

 

I would be very careful what you wish for - mark my words and look back at history...since when has Lowe replaced a sold player with a player thats remotely better?! I think the answer is very close to a big fat NEVER! If we lose Surman or Lallana, the side WILL be weaker for it.

 

Not only that, frankly when a player that supposedly is Saints through and through starts to look elsewhere for his fat pay cheque, it makes even more sense why so many supporters are walking away - no loyalty can be expected from any part of the game now.

[fish fingers]

fine by me if he goes, some needed cash coming into the club and an average player gone.

[Big_Bald_Si]

I would be very careful what you wish for - mark my words and look back at history...since when has Lowe replaced a sold player with a player thats remotely better?! I think the answer is very close to a big fat NEVER! If we lose Surman or Lallana, the side WILL be weaker for it.

 

Not only that, frankly when a player that supposedly is Saints through and through starts to look elsewhere for his fat pay cheque, it makes even more sense why so many supporters are walking away - no loyalty can be expected from any part of the game now.

 

Erm....Dean Richards out, Michael Svennson in.

 

Kevin Davies out, James Beattie in.

 

Don't like Lowe too much, but there have been a few decent examples

[Dicko]

I've been disappointed with Surman this season

 

He's overrated IMO, and he needs to learn how to tackle

He will never be good enough to play regular Premier League football

[derry]

I would be very careful what you wish for - mark my words and look back at history...since when has Lowe replaced a sold player with a player thats remotely better?! I think the answer is very close to a big fat NEVER! If we lose Surman or Lallana, the side WILL be weaker for it.

 

Not only that, frankly when a player that supposedly is Saints through and through starts to look elsewhere for his fat pay cheque, it makes even more sense why so many supporters are walking away - no loyalty can be expected from any part of the game now.

 

Surman doesn't run games in the championship. He is an adequate player that I would like to stay but certainly replaceable.

 

Lallana is an enigma, looks great sometimes with shimmies, flicks, feet changes, but really no end result. He mainly plays in positions of his own choosing, not his assigned position, doesn't hurt the opponents and is blocked off too easily because of his headless chicken, all action, positional play and is too easily sucked in ball watching.

 

One of the senior coaches has told him to stop running about all over the place and try and pick out dangerous positions, where he can hurt the opposition. He obviously isn't listening.

[Dicko]

Surman doesn't run games in the championship. He is an adequate player that I would like to stay but certainly replaceable.

 

Lallana is an enigma, looks great sometimes with shimmies, flicks, feet changes, but really no end result. He mainly plays in positions of his own choosing, not his assigned position, doesn't hurt the opponents and is blocked off too easily because of his headless chicken, all action, positional play and is too easily sucked in ball watching.

 

One of the senior coaches has told him to stop running about all over the place and try and pick out dangerous positions, where he can hurt the opposition. He obviously isn't listening.

 

I agree

 

I think Lallana is starting to listen to the media too much

He isn't playing anywhere near as well as he was 2 months back

 

I can't remember the last match where I thought he looked absolute quality

[krissyboy31]

I've been disappointed with Surman this season

 

He's overrated IMO, and he needs to learn how to tackle

He will never be good enough to play regular Premier League football

 

If he has disappointed, I don't know who has impressed you. Surman, along with Cork, has been our best outfield player.

[Dicko]

If he has disappointed, I don't know who has impressed you. Surman, along with Cork, has been our best outfield player.

 

That's probably why we're in a relegation scrap then

 

I just think he hasn't progressed the way I expected him too

[Weston Saint]

As I said on another thread the article on the BBC about Drew was taken out of context

 

It's just part of his recent interview on Solent where he said he was happy to stay at Saints and would love to play for them in the Premiership as he felt he was ready to play at that level. He was asked about the transfer rumours and he said he was aware of them but that it was all speculation and anyway it would depend on whether Saints wanted to sell him.

 

Some of you on here will know where I obtained that information and the closeness of the source. I can add no more.

[mprobert]

Matt Le Tiss said on Sky Monday night he thought Surman lacked that bit of pace to become a premiership player

I tend to agree also, but you've got to laugh - coming from Fat Matt

[derry]

As I said on another thread the article on the BBC about Drew was taken out of context

 

It's just part of his recent interview on Solent where he said he was happy to stay at Saints and would love to play for them in the Premiership as he felt he was ready to play at that level. He was asked about the transfer rumours and he said he was aware of them but that it was all speculation and anyway it would depend on whether Saints wanted to sell him.

 

Some of you on here will know where I obtained that information and the closeness of the source. I can add no more.

 

He did say that he now felt ready, after 100 games, that he was now ready to make the step up to Premier football. He felt that some players moved too early and ended up in the reserves. It sounded to me that he was not ruling out a move sooner rather than later.

[Weston Saint]

He did say that he now felt ready, after 100 games, that he was now ready to make the step up to Premier football. He felt that some players moved too early and ended up in the reserves. It sounded to me that he was not ruling out a move sooner rather than later.

 

What was the full question? I assume he was responding to one rather than him instigating the "quote"?

[instinct]

take any money over 1.5 mil and run! surman hasn't lived up to expectations and I don't expect him to develop any further

[Dalek2003]

More suited to League 1 than CCC. Overated, I 'd sell him like a shot !

[Chez]

gutted to hear him on Hampshire Radio speak with little or no desire to stay IMO. He talked about keeping his head down but from what I heard it sounded very much like he was just waiting for a Premiership offer.

 

Surman is a top player and contrary to the statements above mine he is playing very well indeed right now. He appears to have a great engine to add to a fine first touch, ability on the ball and desire to urst into the box.

 

The game is all about opinions but anyone that descirbes him as a League 1 player it talking complete and utter ******** and doesn't know their arse from the elbow when it comes to spotting player talent. Next you will be telling me Wotton will be a fine replacement.

[saint_stevo]

Wotton would be a fine replacement

[davefoggy]

not good enough for premiership, sorry drew. but if i was offered a job which tripled my wages to sit on my arse every week.........it's a no brainer. just ask wayne bridge

[chivvy1664]

Surman is exactly the sort of player southampton would have signed when we where in the prem.

[Windmill Arm 2]

gutted to hear him on Hampshire Radio speak with little or no desire to stay IMO. He talked about keeping his head down but from what I heard it sounded very much like he was just waiting for a Premiership offer.

 

Surman is a top player and contrary to the statements above mine he is playing very well indeed right now. He appears to have a great engine to add to a fine first touch, ability on the ball and desire to urst into the box.

 

The game is all about opinions but anyone that descirbes him as a League 1 player it talking complete and utter ******** and doesn't know their arse from the elbow when it comes to spotting player talent. Next you will be telling me Wotton will be a fine replacement.

 

 

Ok know all, put it this way....If Surman is still with us next season, he will be exactly that A LEAGUE 1 PLAYER.

Hope this clears things up. :smt045

[Big Ron fan]

Not for the first time, I'm probably in a minority of one, but I think he could do a decent job for at least half the sides in the Premiership.

 

He's a good all-round player - his lack of pace wouldn't matter so much in a side with plenty of pace around him.

 

Like one or two others, he's suffered over the last couple of years because he's been surrounded by a load of dross and had tactically inept managers.

[Bailey]

I rate Surman and would be gutted to see him go.

 

At the same time, I wouldn't hold it against him as he has stuck by us and could easily have moved on by now.

 

Like he says, he's played his fair share of Saints games and has been a good servant to the club.

 

I don't think we could stand in his way should a decent offer from a Prem team come in, especially considering our financial situation.

[Torrent Of Abuse]

Surman is exactly the sort of player southampton would have signed when we where in the prem.

Which is probably why we are where we are.

 

I'm not saying he's a bad player (quite the opposite) but there's definitely something Pruttonesque about signing a young talented player for the Premiership and pinning your hopes on him. I think towards the end we made one too many of that sort of hopeful long shot signing. Some things never change...

[lordswoodsaints]

good luck to him,if he wants a crack at the big time then why try and stop him.hope he does well if he goes.

my warning to him would be that he is a medium sized fish in sh1tty mud pool at the moment,things may not be as green as he thinks on the other side.

[beatlesaint]

I tend to agree also, but you've got to laugh - coming from Fat Matt

 

Well he did laugh and say it was a bit rich coming from him yeah !!

[Bailey]

With a large majority on here saying they wouldn't care if Drew left, can I assume that should he leave, we won't have any negative threads on here blaming Lowe/Wilde/finances/Poortvliet/Wotte etc? After all, he's over-rated, wouldn't be missed, not a key member of the squad and half the player Lallana is. . .

[NickG]

As I said on another thread the article on the BBC about Drew was taken out of context

 

It's just part of his recent interview on Solent where he said he was happy to stay at Saints and would love to play for them in the Premiership as he felt he was ready to play at that level. He was asked about the transfer rumours and he said he was aware of them but that it was all speculation and anyway it would depend on whether Saints wanted to sell him.

 

Some of you on here will know where I obtained that information and the closeness of the source. I can add no more.

 

not out of context, it was a radio hampshire interview, he said he wants to go - trying not to get too excited about what he is reading in the papers about clubs signing him, etc

[Saint Matty 76]

I'd prefer to keep him, but I wouldn't lose sleep over him, a midfielder who believes he can't use his right foot & is very slow, if a decent offer comes in we should take it.

[egreog]

There is no loyalty nowadays............ if he wants to go get rid of

[derry]

What was the full question? I assume he was responding to one rather than him instigating the "quote"?

 

It was just a bit on Solent, during sports headlines. Very brief, more or less as I said.

[Saint_clark]

Funny how peoples attitudes change as soon as it looks like he's off.

One of our best players, we really need to keep hold of him. If he has this attitude though then i'm very disappointed, as I have spoken to him and really thought he loved the club as much as we do - I honestly would be more than happy playing for Saints. FFS, he isn't living on bread and butter here, he doesn't need more.

[St Marco]

fine by me if he goes, some needed cash coming into the club and an average player gone.

 

And who would be filling that role when he goes? We have not exactly been setting the world alight this year but Drew is our top assister, with 2 assists.....Says it all about our system if you ask me that our top assister has 2 assists...He has scored 4 goals though and is our 2nd top scorer!

 

Seriously though Davis and Surman have been our best players this year by far. Remove Surman from the picture and i worry even more where the supply will come from, Wotten? Robertson? Pearce? Peckhart? Pulis? Gasmi? Drew goes and were fooked imo.

[Wes Tender]

I rate Surman also and would be sorry to lose him. It could be that there is a rather childish reaction when a player looks like leaving when some are tempted through bravado to belittle their worth and try and make out that it is no loss. I suspect that Lallana will be off too in January, the money from their sales will disappear into the black hole that is our overdraught and a couple of younger, less experienced academy players will gain their chance to attempt to fill their shoes before they're ready, or we'll dabble with loans which might disrupt the squad.

I hope it doesn't turn out like that, as one side effect could well be further falls in the attendances, but we'll soon know in a few weeks.

[Deanovski]

i would miss him cos hes saints through and through still bit overrated tho needs better players aorund him tho tbf

[St Landrew]

For my money, although Surman hasn't consistently lit any fires this season, he is ready for a step up. At 22 he's got time on his side to improve, and he certainly will amongst better players. Either that, or a return to the Championship, after a season or two not making the grade.

 

I think every Premiershiop club's attention has just focussed on Chris Eagles, after his recent displays. Andrew Surman may have found himself overlooked, unless he's sold already, as I suspect.

[austsaint]

Matt Le Tiss said on Sky Monday night he thought Surman lacked that bit of pace to become a premiership player.

 

I tend to agree, he is a bit slow......and he will have to learn not to chicken out of virtually every tackle like he did against Wolves.

 

Good for us, but for the Premiership ? Cant see it myself.

Still if its him or Lallana, rather than both, I would vote to keep Adam.

 

I agree with MLT and also with beatlesaint....will be a decent bit of necessary business....there are others more important to keep

[aintforever]

Surman wouldn't have a problem making the step up at all IMO, there are plenty of worse players in the Prem at the moment. Rory Delap for one.

[saint lard]

He will leave us for the promised land that is the Premiership,having then spent the majority of his time warming the bench and picking up a weekly wad of cash he will return within 2 seasons to a CCC club.

Another one to add to the list of players that leave SFC and go on to be monumentaly mediocre.

 

All IMO.

[saint lard]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/3971377.The_table_doesn_t_concern_Drew_yet/

 

 

 

Of course you are not overly concerned,you in all probability wont be here come the end of the season.

[St_Tel49]

I just love the way that people come on here rubbishing our best players. Sadly you will only realise how good they are when they are playing for someone else. As to judging Surman on his tackling! Oakley rarely tackled as such, but the figures showed that he came away from 50/50s with the ball 75% of the time. Timing is far more important than tackling for a midfielder.