washsaint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 See some folks over on UI are claiming that we have signed Caulker for 8.9 million. Anyone know if there is any truth in this? Seems, IMO, obvious Lovren is off as he was not even in squad tonight (and good riddance to the piece of c**p) and Caulker could be a good signing if true. Young, highly thought of and with prem experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Quite a lot on twitter, surprised there isn't a dedicated thread on here already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Lovren was at training this morning. I'm sure he's just being slowly reintroduced into the squad following the World Cup as Koeman knows how good he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I'm sure I read one of our ITKs say lovren would go as soon a replacement was brought in. Be a good signing IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 You read to much into some of the ItK's batman . We are buying a very good Chinese player hence the panda connections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 What if Caulker was brought in to be Lovren's partner? Does anyone know what side of the defense Caulker plays in? Lovren is a left sided central defender so if Caulker is a right sided central defender then he is clearly not a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 you're quite loud lately batman, are you ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 This would be a great signing if it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Was it patred who posted it? Theres a reason most of those loons have been exhiled to the UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I was only told last night that Koeman wasn't keen on Caulker. What wasn't clear was if that was as a player or whether he wasn't keen on the price etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Harry Redknapp....live on sky now....'agreed a fee for Caulker,would be a great thing for him to play alongside Rio Ferdinand...he would be mad to turn us down...just look at what Cahill has learned with john terry'......jim white lapping it up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 'arry saying fee agreed with QPR on SSN. Didn't see it, just going by twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 What if Caulker was brought in to be Lovren's partner? Does anyone know what side of the defense Caulker plays in? Lovren is a left sided central defender so if Caulker is a right sided central defender then he is clearly not a replacement. Just looked it up, Caulker is a right sided center half, so appears he is not a replacement for Lovren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Was it patred who posted it? Theres a reason most of those loons have been exhiled to the UI. For the record patred is against us signing him. He saw him play in a league cup game whilst visiting friends in Morecambe. He says caulker was awful, scored an own goal, gave away a penalty and got sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 For the record patred is against us signing him. He saw him play in a league cup game whilst visiting friends in Morecambe. He says caulker was awful, scored an own goal, gave away a penalty and got sent off. That was Jos surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 If we really wanted Caulker we have had ample time to go after him. Can only conclude we don't. Is he that good? Jury definitely out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Typical 'arry, signing average Championship players and a big name but over the hill defender on loads of money. Will the dunce ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Can't see it happening, but stranger things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Caulker swap for Fonte (plus cash) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I think Caulker is hugely overrated, but probably has potential to be better than Hooiveld or Yoshida so would be a decent enough signing if we keep Lovren and Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Typical 'arry, signing average Championship players and a big name but over the hill defender on loads of money. Will the dunce ever learn? Pretty sure he learned the kind of players you have to sign to make yourself a chunk of cash LONG ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Caulker swap for Fonte (plus cash) ? I'd rather keep Fonte, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I'd rather keep Fonte, to be honest. I wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Caulker swap for Fonte (plus cash) ? No thanks. Fonte was much better than Caulker last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 If Lovren stays, Fonte needs to play along side him. Their bromance adds at least 20% to their skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Tried to tell you ages ago it was close to a done deal. He spent the day at staplewood . As usual people rubbished it off. There was just a cloud over him having to stay at cardif till a certain date for some reason . Maybe that's now been sorted out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Caulker is alright but no Lovren. It's a tough one. Few would doubt it's a good signing with Lovren. Replacing him, it's weakened us. If Lovren is vaguely honest and wanted strengthening though, this would be evidence. Would like Powell as well. 2 good young English players, then a new LB and 2 more attacking players. If those signings are right, I'd start to think we might actually have a better squad than last year. If we sell Lovren and Morgan or others, then we need to adjust expectations and hope for more longer term. Powell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Powell? Nick Powell I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo_saint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Gary lineker said caulker was too slow on the turn to be top class. Maybe he ain't all that. Cardiff ST holders I know said he went missing whenever they went behind and for the entire second half of the season. Head already thinking about his relegation release clause perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Nick Powell I imagine. Ah right. Don't think we need another attacking midfielder, have quite a few options there already, and still some academy lads coming through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Seems likely the plan was to sign one of the Dutch guys but that has been blown out of the water by their good showing in WC. Caulker looks like third choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Caulker was not "Snapped Up" by a big team when he went to Cardiff. Too many pundits including many on here said he was not quick enough or good enough. A season in a poor Cardiff team cannot have turned him into a Lovren/Fonte replacement, so I seriously hope this is a UI wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 In Caulker's defence, he is only 22 - that's very young for a CB. His first proper season in the Prem as well, in a team which leaked goals all year. Our centre backs got absolutely slaughtered when they made the step up from the Championship, but Fonte looks like he's played in the Prem his whole career now. I think the potential is definitely there for him to be a very good player, and he seems like a good bloke as well. Plus we have to factor in that our manager was a World Class defender in his day, and working with him would be an attractive prospect for young players out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 In Caulker's defence, he is only 22 - that's very young for a CB. His first proper season in the Prem as well, in a team which leaked goals all year. I think the potential is definitely there, and he seems like a good bloke as well. Plus we have to factor in that our manager was a World Class defender in his day, and working with him would be an attractive prospect for young players out there. You can coach out mistakes and coach in positioning and tactics. Im not sure you can teach a 22 year old to speed up in the turn or stop being carp on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 You can coach out mistakes and coach in positioning and tactics. Im not sure you can teach a 22 year old to speed up in the turn or stop being carp on the ball. I think Wanyama's performances in the second half of the season will go against that point, although he's not perfect by any means. He looked an awful lot better on the ball and also in his awareness when he came back from injury - something the coaches had clearly worked with him on. I'm not saying he's guaranteed to become a great player or anything, but he'd definitely do a job for us and has the potential to really kick on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnicoolas Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Sorry if already posted but i found this article quite interesting on the Dejan/Caulker comparison http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/05/skrtel-vs-caulker-vs-lovren-complete-defender/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 You can coach out mistakes and coach in positioning and tactics. Im not sure you can teach a 22 year old to speed up in the turn or stop being carp on the ball. Agreed. He's got defects that won't go away. He's worse than lovren, fonte and yoshida imo. A no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 I think Wanyama's performances in the second half of the season will go against that point, although he's not perfect by any means. He looked an awful lot better on the ball and also in his awareness when he came back from injury - something the coaches had clearly worked with him on. I'm not saying he's guaranteed to become a great player or anything, but he'd definitely do a job for us and has the potential to really kick on. Good point, still very young and I a high standard for a Centre back, impressive. Sorry if already posted but i found this article quite interesting on the Dejan/Caulker comparison http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/05/skrtel-vs-caulker-vs-lovren-complete-defender/ Always a bit cynical about those sorts of stats articles, but that's a fair account, good balanced analysis of three good defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 John Terry is slow as you like but one of the best cbs in the division last season. Not saying Caulker is directly comparable but he is strong in the air, can play out from the back and, as others has said, is a decent age for a cb (ie plenty of time to develop but enough under his belt to be in a decent first team such as ours). I like the fact he is English, adds a set piece threat, is a good age and the prices being banded about seem v cheap for a player of his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Agreed. He's got defects that won't go away. He's worse than lovren, fonte and yoshida imo. A no from me. Each to their own opinion, but I think he's better than Yoshida and Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnicoolas Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 why has he got defects that wont go away? hes got youth on his side and his stats are excellent having scored 5 goals as well. Hes a tried and tested central defender in the premiership who made zero errors for a cardiff side that were also relegated. A possible future England defender at under 10 million also makes good business sense...we have already bought two players from the continent, I for one would like to see us purchase this Brit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Powell? Darren. He was **** the first time we had him & I don't suppose he's any better now. Bit of a mental suggestion from Adrians tbh, I would much sooner we went for Caulker even tho he's over-priced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 That article said Caulker "had a superb season". He scored a mildly disproportionate number of goals in a side which got relegated, was utter toilet after Xmas except for basically one fluke at St Mary's, and also conceded shed loads of goals including to some terrible teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 Worth noting that of his 5 goals, 2 were against Fulham under Meulensteen, so probably shouldn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 You read to much into some of the ItK's batman . We are buying a very good Chinese player hence the panda connections I love the ITKs, but I do think their followers fall into one of three categories. 1) Follow the gourd 2) Follow the shoe 3) Follow the smiling red panda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 17 July, 2014 Share Posted 17 July, 2014 (edited) If caulker was any good the scouse gits would have signed him up by now . Your welcome to him Rodgers Edited 17 July, 2014 by Viking Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 18 July, 2014 Share Posted 18 July, 2014 Putting it together - both QPR and Saints have matched his buy out fee - now just down to him and his money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 18 July, 2014 Share Posted 18 July, 2014 As of yesterday we hadn't matched the buyout fee. Only QPR have done so currently. This is direct from a Cardiff board member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 18 July, 2014 Share Posted 18 July, 2014 Would like to sign him but just feel he'll go to QPR - big wages, worked with Redknapp before and knows he rates him, will play alongside Ferdinand who he can learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 July, 2014 Share Posted 18 July, 2014 Would like to sign him but just feel he'll go to QPR - big wages, worked with Redknapp before and knows he rates him, will play alongside Ferdinand who he can learn from. so, we cant compete with QPR now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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