View From The Top Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 He's no doubt gone for a big payrise. Fair play, many of us would change jobs for a big rise as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 You hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 One thing I have learnt in life is that everyone is replaceable, even if it doesn't appear so at the time. He has been with us two years and he will be taking a lot of intellectual capital to spurs, however we will have sucked him dry of his knowledge as well. What's more is that you don't get better by doing the same thing year in year out. A new person in that role will bring new ideas which can then be blended into the existing process and improve it. one thing our club seems to have cracked is an overreliance on any one man. Therefore farewell and good luck, because you are going to need it at spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 One thing I have learnt in life is that everyone is replaceable, even if it doesn't appear so at the time. He has been with us two years and he will be taking a lot of intellectual capital to spurs, however we will have sucked him dry of his knowledge as well. What's more is that you don't get better by doing the same thing year in year out. A new person in that role will bring new ideas which can then be blended into the existing process and improve it. one thing our club seems to have cracked is an overreliance on any one man. Therefore farewell and good luck, because you are going to need it at spurs. Bravo! perfect post. Next discussion please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 It worries me more that this guy knows all of our key staff, most successful scouts etc. If spurs want to chuck obscene money at people and Mitchell tells them who to go after they can now pick us apart. Say 3 of our most distinguished youth scouts, 3 of our best pro scouts. Not to mention replicating our systems and setup. It wouldn't be an overnight thing for spurs but it could effect us and benefit them over the course of the next few years. On the others side of the coin hopefully our positive background will lure in even better individual scouts who up to now haven't been at a setup where they have more free reign like they will at saints. I was wondering about this, but I have a feeling that Kat & Co. are smarter and they may have copyrighted some of the Saints Way. Information about players and scouting networks may be considered proprietary (not just because of the copyright). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 One thing I have learnt in life is that everyone is replaceable, even if it doesn't appear so at the time. He has been with us two years and he will be taking a lot of intellectual capital to spurs, however we will have sucked him dry of his knowledge as well. What's more is that you don't get better by doing the same thing year in year out. A new person in that role will bring new ideas which can then be blended into the existing process and improve it. one thing our club seems to have cracked is an overreliance on any one man. Therefore farewell and good luck, because you are going to need it at spurs. Spot on, good post. As mentioned plenty of our signings the in the last 2-3 years have been quite hit and miss. Gaston, Mayuka and Osvlado for starters. Also this chap has only been here the last 2-3 years so the youngsters we have coming through have very little to do with him but more those who have gone before him. The fruits of his labour will probabaly start to come through in a few years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 If he has been brought in to do the Les Reed job, you can understand. If he has been paid a stack load of cash, you can understand. If he still has family / roots near MK, you can understand. If he has signed up to do the same job he has done at Saints with trigger happy Levy, a baying public, a scouting network that the Skates would laugh at then it utterly baffles me. ....just as long as he didn't download a copy of the software bewfore he jumped ship ............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 You hope. Everyone hopes he can be easily replaced. Not just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Who would want to go and work for Levy, seriously. The Spurs fans despise him, he's practically a dead man walking and in 6 months when he's on his next manager and restructure he'd be out anyway Hopefully Paul Mitchell is a clever man well if he gets sacked ....along with Pochettino, he'll be a rich one, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Here's a thought. Maybe Ronnie wants to work with his own man and Mitchell was a dead man walking anyway, despite his "successes". Tadic, Pelle, Mane and Toby all seem like Koeman signings no matter how much we claim to have held long term interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Here's a thought. Maybe Ronnie wants to work with his own man and Mitchell was a dead man walking anyway' date=' despite his "successes". Tadic, Pelle, Mane and Toby all seem like Koeman signings no matter how much we claim to have held long term interests.[/quote'] mane tadic and pelle were all high on our scouting lists before koeman came in (apparently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 well if he gets sacked ....along with Pochettino, he'll be a rich one, anyway. I should imagine he would be immune from the mnager sacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Here's a thought. Maybe Ronnie wants to work with his own man and Mitchell was a dead man walking anyway' date=' despite his "successes". Tadic, Pelle, Mane and Toby all seem like Koeman signings no matter how much we claim to have held long term interests.[/quote'] I agree not sure when Mitchell started Mayuka Ramierz Osvaldo Gazzinga Forren have not been that good Yoshida is OK so Lovren maybe a one season wonder Wanyama Davis and J Rod are the only good ones unless I have missed someone before Koemann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Weren't Mayuka, Ramirez and Osvaldo Cortese signings with MP also having a big say re Osvaldo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Weren't Mayuka, Ramirez and Osvaldo Cortese signings with MP also having a big say re Osvaldo? Yep, all bad signings will be tagged top NA, NC or MP. All brilliant ones to Paul Mitchell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 (edited) Pelle and Tadic may well have been high on our list, but I think it was the presence of Koeman that convinced them to come here. Everton had their eye on Tadic as well remember. Edited 14 November, 2014 by Chalkboy spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Pelle and Tadic may well have been high on our list, but I think it was the presence of Koeman that convinced them to come here. Everton had there eye on Tadic as well remember. many teams wanted tadic. Newcastle being another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 mane tadic and pelle were all high on our scouting lists before koeman came in (apparently) Pelle and Tadic may well have been high on our list, but I think it was the presence of Koeman that convinced them to come here. Everton had their eye on Tadic as well remember. This is perhaps the critical bit, no matter how good the scouting network, Koeman was probably the biggest factor in signing these two, and Toby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Someone I know just had a visit from the police (arrested), left his job and thought he could continue the project he set up, with his new employers. He argues he owned the data not his ex employers but it appears now that he knows different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 This is perhaps the critical bit, no matter how good the scouting network, Koeman was probably the biggest factor in signing these two, and Toby. I agree with this. You can have any number of targets, but it doesn't mean they will come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Someone I know just had a visit from the police (arrested), left his job and thought he could continue the project he set up, with his new employers. He argues he owned the data not his ex employers but it appears now that he knows different. Not Mitchell? Is this just an anecdote? The usual rule is any ip developed on company property in company time is owned by the company if I remember right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Yep, all bad signings will be tagged top NA, NC or MP. All brilliant ones to Paul Mitchell. Ha. Not saying that is the case. But many used those players as a way of criticising Cortese. End of the day a club of our size can never go and buy the finished article, we are seen as a stepping stone to a CL team and the past 2 years have had and do have numerous CL quality players. No Scouting team will have a 100% record but Levy obviously has looked at how we spent some of our 100m versus how they spent theirs. He has identified Mitchell as someone he wants and may well get him. How important has Mitchell been to Saints? None of us know for sure, but if he goes it is a blow of some sort, especially as it might be to Spurs. But backroom staff move around for reasons other than size of club. He may just want a different challenge after making our department sustainable over the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Someone I know just had a visit from the police (arrested), left his job and thought he could continue the project he set up, with his new employers. He argues he owned the data not his ex employers but it appears now that he knows different. You'd expect Mitchell has a few restrictive covenants on his contract preventing him from being able just to move into his new job seamlessly, better still a few months gardening leave before he starts. Trouble is though that 'data' and systems might be owned by the employer, but it is difficult to impose a restriction on what is in his own knowledge and simply 'how to do the job'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 mane tadic and pelle were all high on our scouting lists before koeman came in (apparently) Considering the stats of all 3 I'd be hugely surprised if any Prem team wasn't at least aware of them, if not monitoring them. Recent articles suggest Mane & Tadic were targets though Pelle was a Koeman signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Pelle and Tadic may well have been high on our list, but I think it was the presence of Koeman that convinced them to come here. Everton had their eye on Tadic as well remember. Leicester were in for Pelle as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Someone I know just had a visit from the police (arrested), left his job and thought he could continue the project he set up, with his new employers. He argues he owned the data not his ex employers but it appears now that he knows different. what was his job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Bloody hell, not another one. If they weaken us any more we'll end up top of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 So there goes the last remaining keystone from the Clubs recent success....All down to you now Mr Reed, no more backs to ride, sink or swim time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 So there goes the last remaining keystone from the Clubs recent success....All down to you now Mr Reed, no more backs to ride, sink or swim time. Surely Reed himself is one. Does Fonte not count either? How are you classifying this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 6 pages about a man who does not kick a ball, how the game has changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 6 pages about a man who does not kick a ball' date=' how the game has changed[/quote'] And the last 2 pages based on the say-so of someone's colleague's mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldridge Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 So there goes the last remaining keystone from the Clubs recent success....All down to you now Mr Reed, no more backs to ride, sink or swim time. Saint George, why don't you go and support Leeds/Blackpool or something? Looking at your post history, it is filled with nothing but bedwetting. After the first league win of the season, you stopped posting and have only reappeared a couple of times to berate the board. After a summer of prolific posting, you must feel disappointed. I know it's hard to accept that Saints are having a good time which therefore gives you F all to complain about, but if you turn your attention to the forums of one of the above clubs, you'll be able to post nonsense like the below every day! You're having a laugh if you think we're as strong as we were last season......Last seasons Saints would have ****ing hammered that **** poor Liverpool team we played on Sunday Red and white stripes have always been associated with mediocrity and failure in the English football leagues...So i guess it's fitting big Kat brought back the stripes during her raping of Southampton FC.......Enjoy peeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 And the last 2 pages based on the say-so of someone's colleague's mate. Who is seriously ITK, because the Spurs interest was reported everywhere 2/3 days ago, but not a peep since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziz Yebda Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 100 percent relegated now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 100 percent relegated now. Think we are all agreed on that. Such a shame after a promising start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 6 pages about a man who does not kick a ball' date=' how the game has changed[/quote'] 6 pages and made all the nationals about a man who is back room staff, not even coaching staff. Utterly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 So there goes the last remaining keystone from the Clubs recent success....All down to you now Mr Reed, no more backs to ride, sink or swim time. After you success of stopping Schniderlin going and single handedly saving the club in august, why didn't you post demanding he stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Ha. Not saying that is the case. But many used those players as a way of criticising Cortese. End of the day a club of our size can never go and buy the finished article, we are seen as a stepping stone to a CL team and the past 2 years have had and do have numerous CL quality players. No Scouting team will have a 100% record but Levy obviously has looked at how we spent some of our 100m versus how they spent theirs. He has identified Mitchell as someone he wants and may well get him. How important has Mitchell been to Saints? None of us know for sure, but if he goes it is a blow of some sort, especially as it might be to Spurs. But backroom staff move around for reasons other than size of club. He may just want a different challenge after making our department sustainable over the last 3 years. I think the signings from italy had alot to do with Cortese, (Ramirez Osvaldo and Guly). Think I read he was friends with an agent over there or something aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 More bullshine from the Wail. How much are Yobbos paying this prat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Levy has not got an original idea in his head. He thinks "Who is doing something well - I know lets steal their people". It has worked well for him so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Regardless of whether Mitchell heads for Spurs, I hope Ralph & Co are ready to dismiss any approach from them for any player or, at the very least, make it clear that they are now subject to a special 25% premium on any fee. At some point we have to make it clear that we do have a way of punishing teams that engage in unwelcome and often questionable conduct regarding our players or staff. After all, the predatory clubs are far more likely to want our players than we are to want theirs (along with their crazy contracts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 So there goes the last remaining keystone from the Clubs recent success....All down to you now Mr Reed, no more backs to ride, sink or swim time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petts Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 What I want to know are Grant and Phil still around, and who's running the queen vic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 If true, stick him on a long period of gardening leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 (edited) I'm surprised St Charlie, Batman et al aren't ripping the board to shreds. Surely they can keep him against his will? Easy to do. If I were them I'd be blaming Les Reed for everything, making up nicknames for Mr Krueger and abusing our owner about her looks, weight and competence when running a company. Edited 14 November, 2014 by Unbelievable Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 I'm surprised St Charlie, Batman et al aren't ripping the board to shreds. Surely they can keep him against his will? Easy to do. If I were them I'd be blaming Les Reed for everything, making up nicknames for Mr Krueger and abusing our owner about her looks, weight and competence when running a company. Do you still think Spurs paid a journalist to make this story up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Wow. If Spurs want to know why we have had so much success, why don't they just rummage through our bins? Maybe if Steffen Freund isn't doing anything, he can oblige? Seriously though, I wonder if this (obviously very good) appointment is really going to fit in amongst the short-termism that seems to rage at WHL? As we have seen already this year, it's not the players, not the staff, not the training pitches or the type of balls they use but that a patient, long-term vision was set up by the Liebherrs that applies from everyone and everything at our club for age 8/9 upwards. You can't mimic that when your focus is actually on outcomes now. We will be fine. We appointed Mitchell after losing Huw Jennings(?) I think and Georges Prost. We have the right direction from the top so I am confident we will do well. And what ambitious academy person wouldn't join what we have? #weMarchOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 I'm surprised St Charlie, Batman et al aren't ripping the board to shreds. Surely they can keep him against his will? Easy to do. If I were them I'd be blaming Les Reed for everything, making up nicknames for Mr Krueger and abusing our owner about her looks, weight and competence when running a company. It's not happening. It's all made up by the press Don't panic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 It's not happening. It's all made up by the press Don't panic Sure, they just make stuff up. We're doommed I tell you, you're blind if you can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 14 November, 2014 Share Posted 14 November, 2014 Hopefully the over scout had set-up the under-scouts to scout out a new chief scout if the big scout ever stepped out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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