doddisalegend Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11617904/Spurs-consider-move-for-Manchester-United-and-Chelsea-target-Nathaniel-Clyne.html Love the end of this article Both Clyne and Schneiderlin, together with any other of Tottenham’s summer targets, have been advised to avoid moving to White Hart Lane by former Spurs goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes. Gomes, who spent six years at Tottenham and is now at newly-promoted Watford, believes the struggles of Paulinho, Roberto Soldado and Erik Lamela should act as a warning to other players. “It’s the club (who are to blame),” Gomes told ESPN Brazil. “Certainly, I would not recommend to anyone (to join Spurs). “They paid £28m for Soldado, and they don’t play him. Or look (at) Lamela, who was a great (prospect) in Europe, but today you watch Tottenham games and he looks like he can’t play football at all.” ( :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 Spurs are quite right to monitor the situation. In the same way I monitor the situation of Kelly Brook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 Love the end of this article Both Clyne and Schneiderlin, together with any other of Tottenham’s summer targets, have been advised to avoid moving to White Hart Lane by former Spurs goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes. Gomes, who spent six years at Tottenham and is now at newly-promoted Watford, believes the struggles of Paulinho, Roberto Soldado and Erik Lamela should act as a warning to other players. “It’s the club (who are to blame),” Gomes told ESPN Brazil. “Certainly, I would not recommend to anyone (to join Spurs). “They paid £28m for Soldado, and they don’t play him. Or look (at) Lamela, who was a great (prospect) in Europe, but today you watch Tottenham games and he looks like he can’t play football at all.” ( :lol: Gomes just hasn't been able to seize onto the fact that English Football in general and PL football in particular isn't a place for wimps, fairies and incompetents. He was awful, that's not Spurs fault now is it. If he keeps his place at Watford we shall no doubt see once again how bad he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 Would be suprised if Les Reed and Koeman had been so positive about Clyne recently without being almost sure that he will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 (edited) Should get an update on this in the Koeman presser. Sounded like they were hopeful he would sign this week, so hopefully nothing has changed! Edit: No update according to Koeman. Hmmm. Edited 22 May, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2015 Share Posted 24 May, 2015 Koeman said after the game he is confident and expects a decision next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 May, 2015 Share Posted 24 May, 2015 I would expect this to be sorted positively, based on the noises I've heard from respected people and posters. Hopefully once the dust has settled on that, he can get his mind back on his game again - as he's seriously drifted over the last 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 24 May, 2015 Share Posted 24 May, 2015 Koeman said after the game he is confident and expects a decision next week. Waiting to see who wins fa cup before making a decision maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 May, 2015 Share Posted 24 May, 2015 Waiting to see who wins fa cup before making a decision maybe? Doubt it to be honest. Would be a bit knee jerk. More likely he has waited to see if any top clubs have come in for him. United clearly did and for whatever reason have cooled interest. New deal would be great for Saints as enables us to get a bigger fee when he eventually does go and of course means we don't need to recruit two RBs this summer (we need a backup to Clyne, especially if Toby doesn't stay. Nobody in the U21s for this position.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Waiting to see who wins fa cup before making a decision maybe? I agree with this, i reckon he's waiting to see if we are in Europa next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 I wouldnt rule out our brenda coming in for clyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 I wouldnt rule out our brenda coming in for clyne And I'm sure Lambert and Lovren will have a little chat to him - it ain't all it's cracked up to be! I don't think Clyne is 'top' level just yet, he'll get there...but he's not there yet. I think if he moved now, he wouldn't be a mainstay in a team and would drift in and out of a side like Shaw. It makes so much sense for him to stick here and carry on progressing. He'll get his move one day and has plenty of time on his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 I wouldnt rule out our brenda coming in for clyne I would...If they want a RB then they'll go for Trippier, local move and about a third of the price. What Liverpool need is a real DM and a striker, a real one who scores goals, no place for Clynes in their set up just nowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Trippier off to Spurs apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 And I'm sure Lambert and Lovren will have a little chat to him - it ain't all it's cracked up to be! I don't think Clyne is 'top' level just yet, he'll get there...but he's not there yet. I think if he moved now, he wouldn't be a mainstay in a team and would drift in and out of a side like Shaw. It makes so much sense for him to stick here and carry on progressing. He'll get his move one day and has plenty of time on his side. He's the England right back and plays week in, week out in the premier league. Not sure what you mean by him not being "top level"? Doubt he would drift in and out of any of the teams linked with him as unlike Shaw, he doesn't have the same fitness and maturity issues to contend with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 I would...If they want a RB then they'll go for Trippier, local move and about a third of the price. What Liverpool need is a real DM and a striker, a real one who scores goals, no place for Clynes in their set up just nowl They are in a world of trouble IMO, Sakho and Lovren just have not helped their defensive woes, and Skrtl is still they're best defender. They desperately need a CB or two, Lucas is not looking the force he was, gerrard will be a big loss too, so thats atleast a CM or two. And yes, scoring goals is something they've missed since Suarez, im not sure even a fit sturridge is as good as is made out. Suarez was such a force. I suppose you are right, but they'll need a RB, no point continuing to play Markovic there and Can isnt the man either. I think clyne is an option for them, he is better than trippier. But I honestly think they need to spend north of 100m again to improve on this year, thankfully I have faith that brendon and his merry men will **** it up the wall again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Is Brendan even going to be their manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Would be suprised if Les Reed and Koeman had been so positive about Clyne recently without being almost sure that he will stay. guess he might be happy to stay ...IF we make Europa League, otherwise the Reed / Koeman comments might just be a face-saving move to anticipate the inevitable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 guess he might be happy to stay ...IF we make Europa League, otherwise the Reed / Koeman comments might just be a face-saving move to anticipate the inevitable... If he doesn't stay then Koeman and Reed's comments will look a little silly. Thats why I think he will stay, because surely they are both (Koeman especially) too intelligent to be duped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 I wouldnt rule out our brenda coming in for clyne .that's if he's still got the job.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 .that's if he's still got the job.... Not sure why clyne would want to go to west ham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Clyne's leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Clyne's leaving. What like ings is joining joker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Clyne's leaving. Is ings still definitely joining? He's massively odds on to join Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Clyne's leaving. Yeah probably. Ker-ching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Is ings still definitely joining? He's massively odds on to join Liverpool. Not heard anything more about Ings since I was told what I was told a few months back. The Clyne comment is from Clyne himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 clyne staying. Clyne's leaving. It's a Tom28 vs K,Billy face off. Unless things have changed since last week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 If he doesn't stay then Koeman and Reed's comments will look a little silly. Thats why I think he will stay, because surely they are both (Koeman especially) too intelligent to be duped. Les Reed's comments won't "look silly" if he goes. All he said was they were still talking. Only the desperate hang on to such vague comments as anything more than what they were: hopeful. If United (or any CL side) comes in with £20m or so for our right back he's off. Couldn't give a monkeys what any forum supposed ITK gimps say in May. If Clyne signs a contract extension he's staying for one more season. Let's just see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Not heard anything more about Ings since I was told what I was told a few months back. The Clyne comment is from Clyne himself. Clyne is on the verge of signing a new contract. He'll be staying. Xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Not heard anything more about Ings since I was told what I was told a few months back. The Clyne comment is from Clyne himself. Well done on your exclusive. He has told you, but not RK. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/12969334.Southampton_confident_on_Clyne_deal/?ref=mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 (edited) Les Reed's comments won't "look silly" if he goes. All he said was they were still talking. Only the desperate hang on to such vague comments as anything more than what they were: hopeful. "I'm confident we will have a resolution sooner rather than later," said Reed. "I'm in discussions and those have been very, very positive." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32734628 Koeman: “Still confident that he (Clyne) will sign a new contract but I think next week we will know more about his situation." http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/579727/Southampton-Ronald-Koeman-discusses-Nathaniel-Clyne-contract-Manchester-United They obviously have a belief he will stay, and have both said more than just "we are still talking." Something clearly changed in the last few weeks, with Clyne changing agent and Utd perhaps deciding they didnt want him any more, because if they did then the talks with Reed would have been very quick: "Thanks, but no." Edited 25 May, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Ah good, Saint Charlie is back on form as Meltdown v2 begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Ah good, Saint Charlie is back on form as Meltdown v2 begins. Saying Clyne will stay? Hows that a meltdown?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 "I'm confident we will have a resolution sooner rather than later," said Reed. "I'm in discussions and those have been very, very positive." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32734628 Koeman: “Still confident that he (Clyne) will sign a new contract but I think next week we will know more about his situation." http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/579727/Southampton-Ronald-Koeman-discusses-Nathaniel-Clyne-contract-Manchester-United They obviously have a belief he will stay, and have both said more than just "we are still talking." As I said, only the desperate hang on to stuff like that. You want to quote that and clutch onto it like rosary beads then crack on. If you're incapable of reading between those lines then that's your problem not mine. He'll go if the money and opportunity is right. He'll stay if none of those three or four clubs want to lump £20-odd million on our right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 As I said, only the desperate hang on to stuff like that. You want to quote that and clutch onto it like rosary beads then crack on. If you're incapable of reading between those lines then that's your problem not mine. He'll go if the money and opportunity is right. He'll stay if none of those three or four clubs want to lump £20-odd million on our right back. But it won't stop our old friend Charlie trying to position himself so he's ready to spring into action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Thats what I mean, I think he will stay now because for whatever reason the interest of those others that was there, isn't anymore and that is why Reed and Koeman have been sounding positive. Of course that could change, but if United or anyone else were lining him up then he wouldn't been in "very very positive" talks with us. Lets hope he stays anyway, few would have thought we could keep him and Jay earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 But it won't stop our old friend Charlie trying to position himself so he's ready to spring into action. Because I think there is a good chance of Clyne staying? I get the feeling if I thought he was leaving you would also say the same thing. Play the post not the poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Thats what I mean, I think he will stay now because for whatever reason the interest of those others that was there, isn't anymore and that is why Reed and Koeman have been sounding positive. Of course that could change, but if United or anyone else were lining him up then he wouldn't been in "very very positive" talks with us. Lets hope he stays anyway, few would have thought we could keep him and Jay earlier in the season. Seriously, this is like football negotiations for beginners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Seriously, this is like football negotiations for beginners. We will see this week or next. United were keen on him before but seem to have switched their attention elsewhere. Maybe thats a bluff, who knows. But Saints are more confident of keeping him now than they were in March. At least you replied though, even if your opinion is different. Thats fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 I was confident on Clyne, having heard from someone I trust who spoke to him at the awards dinner - I am less confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 I was confident on Clyne, having heard from someone I trust who spoke to him at the awards dinner - I am less confident. He said "we'll see" to the person who asked him on my table and seemingly most others who asked - pretty much all he can say. Did your pal get something more in depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 I'm very confident on Clyne staying tbh. My source is pretty ******* reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 I have absolutely no idea if Clyne will be staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 I have absolutely no idea if Clyne will be staying. Likewise. And from now until the end of August this forum will be full of utter helmets (more so than normal) pretending to know this and that, whinging about signings/no signings. So for that reason, I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 He said "we'll see" That's what we used to say to the kids when in fact we had no intention of complying with their demands for tree houses, mega Meccano sets and Electric scooters. After a couple of days they usually forgot about it anway. I think your friend is supposed to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Likewise. And from now until the end of August this forum will be full of utter helmets (more so than normal) pretending to know this and that, whinging about signings/no signings. So for that reason, I'm out. Not sure what's worse -ITK fantasists or the helmets who, in response, declare to the world they're 'out'. Its not Dragons Den. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Not sure what's worse -ITK fantasists or the helmets who, in response, declare to the world they're 'out'. Its not Dragons Den. alpine saint sweep stake for when he loses it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 alpine saint sweep stake for when he loses it Usually about 3 days before a flurry of inbound players to complete the playing squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 alpine saint sweep stake for when he loses it Monday 1st June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 alpine saint sweep stake for when he loses it In order to "lose it", don't you need to currently "have it"? Has that ever been the case for alpine_saint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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