The9 Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 I watched Ireland and Scotland's matches at home, Bosnia v Wales in a pub in Nottingham and haven't seen a second of Lithuania v England even now. It was the very definition of pointless. I do hope Steve Grant enjoyed his trip though, the daft sod. Mind you, I was in Nottinghamshire for two League Two matches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 JWP captaining England U21s v Kazakhstan and Marty Tatgett also starting. Live on BT Sport 2 now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 (edited) Former England captain Terry Butcher was sacked by comfortably-bottom-of-League-Two Newport County two weeks ago, just to give a modern perspective on how well-qualified he is to be having an opinion on this stuff nowadays. One of my pet hates is ****ing Terry ( I wore a headband covered in blood ) Buthcher . The bloke is a complete plum , he's Arry Redknapp with a blood soaked headband . Bloke slagged Sven and other managers whilst failing at every club he's been at and his bitterness at Maradonas handball is embarrassing . Two words that sum up England's shortcomings the past 20 years are Terry & Butcher . Although he is a "terrific skipper " Edited 13 October, 2015 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 I think boredom and complacency has been a problem for some bigger nations. These campaigns are slightly ridiculous. Or extremely ridiculous. How can you make serious top level footballers play San Marino, Gibraltar etc? It's futile, and not in the least bit entertaining. This. How about 7 groups of 5 teams, top 2 from each group qualify, plus some 3rd place playoff spots to make up the numbers. The groups consist of the top ranked European teams, plus one wild card (who have to win a preliminary knockout with the rest of the lower ranked crap to qualify for the last spot in one of the groups). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 This. How about 7 groups of 5 teams, top 2 from each group qualify, plus some 3rd place playoff spots to make up the numbers. The groups consist of the top ranked European teams, plus one wild card (who have to win a preliminary knockout with the rest of the lower ranked crap to qualify for the last spot in one of the groups). It should be something like this, maybe a bit the Davis Cup thrown in where the smaller nations have to qualify for the qualification groups proper. But won't happen, yet - the FA need to pay for Wembley and can still sell 70k tickets for pointless qualifiers against no marks. Ditto other nations who want a fat calendar of fixtures. One day the powerful club bloc might smash it, but feels a way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 It should be something like this, maybe a bit the Davis Cup thrown in where the smaller nations have to qualify for the qualification groups proper. But won't happen, yet - the FA need to pay for Wembley and can still sell 70k tickets for pointless qualifiers against no marks. Ditto other nations who want a fat calendar of fixtures. One day the powerful club bloc might smash it, but feels a way off. when the draw for the world cup qualifiers was made, was it that england HAD to be in a larger group for that for exactly the reasons you say??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 The only thing I will be watching out for tonight is Virgil's wellbeing. We can't afford to lose him. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VVD starting again for the Netherlands tonight against the Czech Republic. Stekelenburg on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VvD makes a pigs ear of defending and now Holland are losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Holland looks woeful, no control in midfield nor threat going forward. What was the keeper doing for that goal? Feeble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Don't really see the point of the Dutch calling up Stek. They now have 2 sub keepers on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VVD ****s up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VVD completely terrible for the second.....embarrassing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VvD makes a pigs ear of defending and now Holland are losing Didn't think he was to blame for the first. But awful for the second. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Pelle ****s up again (should have 2 by now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Pelle just missed an easy header. Italy 1 down to Norway. I'm watching Forren closely and so far he's doing pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Pelle missed reasonably easy chance. Should have had a hatful given he is up against Forren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 surprised VVD wasn't subbed. Don't want him to do too badly as it might affect his confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 All Italy here. Surely they'll score soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VVD nearly scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Pelle missed reasonably easy chance. Should have had a hatful given he is up against Forren. One of the best strikers in the world. According to a couple on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 when the draw for the world cup qualifiers was made, was it that england HAD to be in a larger group for that for exactly the reasons you say??? For broadcasting rather than gate receipts but yeah, basically. Us and Germany/Italy/Spain have to be in bigger groups for the pan-European TV deal that was agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Virgil's had a bit of a 'mare but that Dutch midfield is non-existent both in defence and on the ball. Might be a better second half now Czechs are down to ten and Van Perdue is on. I hope Virgil gets a goal because this has been horrible for him so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 One of the best strikers in the world. According to a couple on here One person said... If you had to name the top ten players who are most like Pelle in world football I doubt Pelle would be anywhere lower than top 5...Zlatan would be #1 but who else is 6ft 4" and as good as him? And you've managed to twist it to "one of the best strikers in the world". He was talking solely about target man strikers, not all strikers. I don't think its unreasonable to think Pelle starting now regularly for Italy would rank highly among other target man strikers currently in world football. How many can you name that would do a target man role better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Virgil is trending on twitter, that is never good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 One person said... And you've managed to twist it to "one of the best strikers in the world". He was talking solely about target man strikers, not all strikers. I don't think its unreasonable to think Pelle starting now regularly for Italy would rank highly among other target man strikers currently in world football. How many can you name that would do a target man role better? Don't bother. He's a plum and everyone knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VVD off. At least no injury. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 VVD off - at least he is one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Van Persie scores! Own goal. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Dutch team are a total shambles. Virgil must have been relieved to get off Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 One person said... And you've managed to twist it to "one of the best strikers in the world". He was talking solely about target man strikers, not all strikers. I don't think its unreasonable to think Pelle starting now regularly for Italy would rank highly among other target man strikers currently in world football. How many can you name that would do a target man role better? Got to love saints web From being the best club outside of the top 4 (when in league 1) to kelvin Davis for England to VvD being the best defender we have had in 15 years (after 5 games) to pelle being one of the best forwards of his genre in world football. Off the top of my head, here are few Zlatan Liorente Benteke Giroud Benzema Diego Costa Lewondowski Mandzukic Lukaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Danny Blind looks likea young Martin McGuninness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Can we sign Giovinco? He looks quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 That wasn't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Nice goal Pelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Can we sign Giovinco? He looks quality. So does that Pellè fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Pelle!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 hurrah Pelle scores nice goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Pelle scores. Nice one fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Any good? Gave up watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Any good? Gave up watching it. Actually, I think Italy are playing quite well. More fluidity than England and more urgency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Decent finish, 4th in 7 caps for Italy. He is a good goalscorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 October, 2015 Share Posted 13 October, 2015 Bloody Latvia ruined my bet. I never did rate that Pahars chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grezz Posted 14 October, 2015 Share Posted 14 October, 2015 Danny Blind looks likea young Martin McGuninness Most of his team play like Sefton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 14 October, 2015 Share Posted 14 October, 2015 Thought Steklenburg (sp?) would have to be better than the Dutch keeper who had a mare. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 October, 2015 Share Posted 14 October, 2015 Got to love saints web From being the best club outside of the top 4 (when in league 1) to kelvin Davis for England to VvD being the best defender we have had in 15 years (after 5 games) to pelle being one of the best forwards of his genre in world football. Off the top of my head, here are few Zlatan Liorente Benteke Giroud Benzema Diego Costa Lewondowski Mandzukic Lukaku Football fans thinking their players are the best, what has this world come to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 October, 2015 Share Posted 14 October, 2015 Thought Steklenburg (sp?) would have to be better than the Dutch keeper who had a mare. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk with Krul out almost indefinitely....perhaps Stekelenburg will get the job in future - by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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