S-Clarke Posted August 20 Posted August 20 If he's going, a bidding war is the best outcome for us. 2
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted August 21 Posted August 21 8 hours ago, S-Clarke said: If he's going, a bidding war is the best outcome for us. And from Everton previously being the only ones on the scene, now we've got Palace interested (and Spurs possibly?).......
OldNick Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: And from Everton previously being the only ones on the scene, now we've got Palace interested (and Spurs possibly?)....... Spurs will offer half what Everton did knowing their shananigans lol 3
S-Clarke Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Spurs will try to throw players in as part-ex, they always do. We don't want your next gen Tommy Forecast thanks.
AlexLaw76 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Spurs will try to throw players in as part-ex, they always do. We don't want your next gen Tommy Forecast thanks. That was a masterstroke from Levy at the time 😂 1
ErwinK1961 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Spurs are not a credible option, they will never pay the money we want. 1
Turkish Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, ErwinK1961 said: Spurs are not a credible option, they will never pay the money we want. they stumped up 40m for Archie Gray in similar circumstances. 1
Smirking_Saint Posted August 21 Posted August 21 19 minutes ago, Turkish said: they stumped up 40m for Archie Gray in similar circumstances. They’ve put in a bid apparently
SWLondon Saint Posted August 21 Posted August 21 23 minutes ago, Turkish said: they stumped up 40m for Archie Gray in similar circumstances. Well exactly, and that was without him playing a minute in the Prem. £50m completely reasonable expectation, so spuds probably offered £25m as usual.
Dman Posted August 21 Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: Well exactly, and that was without him playing a minute in the Prem. £50m completely reasonable expectation, so spuds probably offered £25m as usual. Lets be honest, Dibbling didn't set the world alight last season. if we want 50m for fernandes, dibbling isn't anywhere near worth that. 2 1
Smirking_Saint Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 minute ago, Dman said: Lets be honest, Dibbling didn't set the world alight last season. if we want 50m for fernandes, dibbling isn't anywhere near worth that. - RWs are in high demand - He’s english AND U21 - Super highly rated at youth level - He was fine last year, i a squad that struggled I think 40-50m is comfortably reasonable 2
benjii Posted August 21 Posted August 21 6 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: - RWs are in high demand - He’s english AND U21 - Super highly rated at youth level - He was fine last year, i a squad that struggled I think 40-50m is comfortably reasonable Yeah, 40-50m is the knock-down, you've been relegated price. If we were in the Prem he'd command 70m+. 1
iansums Posted August 21 Posted August 21 6 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: - RWs are in high demand - He’s english AND U21 - Super highly rated at youth level - He was fine last year, i a squad that struggled I think 40-50m is comfortably reasonable Whatever happened to the word 'very'? 2
ally_uk Posted August 21 Posted August 21 (edited) Start the bids at £40 mil if they want to throw in a loan in two the other way which could allow Still to implement system fair does. Edited August 21 by ally_uk
Dman Posted August 21 Posted August 21 21 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: - RWs are in high demand - He’s english AND U21 - Super highly rated at youth level - He was fine last year, i a squad that struggled I think 40-50m is comfortably reasonable 1 year left on his contract also accounts for a lot. You're paying for potential and nothing more at this stage. He had 6 good months and went off the boil for the other 6 last season and his g/a return was poor (probably becasue of the side he played in). For all his quality atributes, he's very, very one-footed and imo, pretty lazy. Personally, £40m+ is a very good deal for us. 1 1
ErwinK1961 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Just now, Dman said: 1 year left on his contract also accounts for a lot. You're paying for potential and nothing more at this stage. He had 6 good months and went off the boil for the other 6 last season and his g/a return was poor (probably becasue of the side he played in). For all his quality atributes, he's very, very one-footed and imo, pretty lazy. Personally, £40m+ is a very good deal for us. He has two. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted August 21 Posted August 21 19 minutes ago, iansums said: Whatever happened to the word 'very'? It's been superseded. 1
Matthew Le God Posted August 21 Posted August 21 4 minutes ago, Dman said: 1 year left on his contract also accounts for a lot. Contract expires in 2027
Jimmy_D Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Going to Spurs perceived as the fallback option for a target they lost to Arsenal... that wouldn't be the easiest environment for a young player to develop, or to win over their fans. Just based on what the consensus is at youth levels on what he could end up being for England, I hope he ends up in a team where he's given every chance to reach that (hopefully us!) 1
iansums Posted August 21 Posted August 21 14 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: It's been superseded. Thanks for reaching out. 1
Midfield_General Posted August 21 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said: They’ve put in a bid apparently Not trying to be an MLG style pedant but making an approach doesn't necessarily mean they've put in a bid. Could mean they've just contacted the club to register interest and find out what the asking price is etc, in order to weigh up whether they want to make an official bid. 1
Smirking_Saint Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Really getting confused with this now, do we have a deal ? Don’t we have a deal ? Have they moved the goalposts ? Are we just trying to get the deal done ?
ErwinK1961 Posted August 21 Posted August 21 11 minutes ago, Dman said: I'll shut up then I think the second year is an option that we can chose to implement tbf.
maysie Posted August 21 Posted August 21 14 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Really getting confused with this now, do we have a deal ? Don’t we have a deal ? Have they moved the goalposts ? Are we just trying to get the deal done ? Being discussed in detail in that actual thread 😀
Smirking_Saint Posted August 21 Posted August 21 12 minutes ago, maysie said: Being discussed in detail in that actual thread 😀 Yeah my bad forgot i was on the dibling thread
gio1saints Posted August 21 Posted August 21 I think that it’s not impossible the Krasnodar President may expect a brown envelope from Saints as part of the deal - and we apparently don’t do brown envelopes in the Club Shop. That might explain why agreement is at an impasse even though transfer fee and wages seem agreed or agreeable. This nonsense about not wanting a player to player championship level is 100% bollocks. Show him enough money and he’d sell him to the National League.
suewhistle Posted August 21 Posted August 21 I must admit that thought crossed my mind. I thought that about the Carillo purchase too, the other way!
Saint_lambden Posted August 21 Posted August 21 Well we certainly know how much Tottenham have to spend on an attacking midfielder now, which should play to our advantage.
Whitey Grandad Posted August 21 Posted August 21 10 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said: He has two. "My brother grew another foot but he doesn't use it as a rule"
John Boy Saint Posted August 22 Posted August 22 11 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: "My brother grew another foot but he doesn't use it as a rule" Boom - Tish!! 😁
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 £42m and a 20% sell-on is a really good fee for a player who basically disappeared for half a season. I do doubt he kicks on to be that £100m player at Everton however.
S-Clarke Posted August 22 Posted August 22 £42m fixed fee, with £6m add-ons. 20% sell on. So pretty much what we wanted all in. 1
SouSaint Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Echo saying Saints stood firm on valuation but the Everton journalists are saying that we reduced our asking price significantly. 1
Toadhall Saint Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Cheers lad - hopefully the money is well spent and we see you (on the losing side) next season.
Farmer Saint Posted August 22 Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, SouSaint said: Echo saying Saints stood firm on valuation but the Everton journalists are saying that we reduced our asking price significantly. Sounds like every transfer, ever
Badger Posted August 22 Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: £42m fixed fee, with £6m add-ons. 20% sell on. So pretty much what we wanted all in. Wonder if Mr Levy is counting his cash with a view to an offer...
Matthew Le God Posted August 22 Posted August 22 5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: £42m fixed fee, with £6m add-ons. 20% sell on. So pretty much what we wanted all in. Who has said upto £48m? Athletic say just over £40m
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Who has said upto £48m? Athletic say just over £40m Sky apparently saying £42m+6m on SSN.
S-Clarke Posted August 22 Posted August 22 (edited) 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Who has said upto £48m? Athletic say just over £40m There's all sorts on twitter, impossible to know what to believe really. I saw something which said £42m fixed fee, with £6m achievable add ons + 20% sell on. There's obviously agendas at play, Everton journos wanting to say they got him for much much less, and our side making us want to believe we stood our ground. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Edited August 22 by S-Clarke
Saint Matty 76 Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Nah looks like Sky are actually saying £36m with £6m in easily achievable add-ons, alongside the 20% sell-on. Seems most parties are aligned with a £42m total package.
Badger Posted August 22 Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Goodbye… Lets move on Exactly. I don't believe this is the best move for him, but he and his agent have made their bed now they have to lie in it. Shame he didn't stay long enough to become the player we expected and hoped he might be. Perhaps now he never will.
Saint_clark Posted August 22 Posted August 22 Honestly pretty over the moon with that deal. Shown flashes of promise but not enough to turn that down. 5
Badger Posted August 22 Posted August 22 1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Nah looks like Sky are actually saying £36m with £6m in easily achievable add-ons, alongside the 20% sell-on. Seems most parties are aligned with a £42m total package. That's where the benefit might be rather than add-ons.
Matthew Le God Posted August 22 Posted August 22 3 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Sky apparently saying £42m+6m on SSN. 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: There's all sorts on twitter, impossible to know what to believe really. I saw something which said £42m fixed fee, with £6m achievable add ons + 20% sell on. There's obviously agendas at play, Everton journos wanting to say they got him for much much less, and our side making us want to believe we stood our ground. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Sky say it is a "£42m package" and "including £6m of easily achievable add ons and a 20% sell on". Sounds more like it is £36m plus £6m. Rather than £42m plus £6m.
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