Whitey Grandad Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: A ‘swap’ with whom? Edited 25 May, 2023 by Whitey Grandad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 Don’t want Liverpool’s sloppy seconds. Would be like stirring the porridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 39 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: A ‘swap’ with whom? Tyler Morton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 Just now, Master Bates said: Tyler Morton Yeah, right, Liverpool. Accept that or definitely over £40m elsewhere. Tough choice. Lavia is going to be one of the very best. We should demand absolute top dollar, not someone not even good enough for Liverpool's ropey midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 3 hours ago, Master Bates said: Tyler Morton Swap deals never happen, but he's actually a decent young player. Not like for like with Lavia, but has what I consider the "modern" midfielder requires, which is to be comfortable taking the ball under pressure and move it progressively. He can twist and carry the ball well. I can see him appealing to Martin's supposed ethos. I'd like someone with a bit more physicality alongside him, though. Not that any of this is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 3 hours ago, Master Bates said: Tyler Morton Thanks. Never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 25 May, 2023 Share Posted 25 May, 2023 (edited) Anybody seen Chelsea’s Charlie Webster play ? Apparently there has been european interest,but he might make a very useful addition on loan, and has local connections. Will certainly need first team football soon . Edited 25 May, 2023 by teamsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 15 hours ago, DT said: Yeah, right, Liverpool. Accept that or definitely over £40m elsewhere. Tough choice. Lavia is going to be one of the very best. We should demand absolute top dollar, not someone not even good enough for Liverpool's ropey midfield Hard to play for Liverpool and Blackburn at the same time though, that is like saying Tella isn't a good player because he hasn't been good enough to get into our attack this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 1 minute ago, Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan said: Hard to play for Liverpool and Blackburn at the same time though, that is like saying Tella isn't a good player because he hasn't been good enough to get into our attack this season... Tyler Morton is a good player, and has a full season of Championship under his belt. This would be a decent option if Wilcox and Martin want him then I'm sure that would be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 17 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: The only club we should be selling Lavia to is City, or at least giving them first dibs. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. In order to keep this relationship we have with them sweet, you do not go and sell a player who they have a buy back clause for to a main rival. I have to say, although he's clearly going to the very top - I think a move to a top PL club right now will be detrimental to his career. He needs to be playing games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 49 minutes ago, Dman said: The only club we should be selling Lavia to is City, or at least giving them first dibs. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. In order to keep this relationship we have with them sweet, you do not go and sell a player who they have a buy back clause for to a main rival. I have to say, although he's clearly going to the very top - I think a move to a top PL club right now will be detrimental to his career. He needs to be playing games. You’ve got to convince City they want him. A year ago they didn’t and they invested in Phillips instead. I’d be surprised if they roll back everything to how it was a year ago for even more money. They were probably hoping we’d stay up, Lavia stayed with us and they come back next year when they know if Phillips had worked out. It doesn’t make much sense for them to come back now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: You’ve got to convince City they want him. A year ago they didn’t and they invested in Phillips instead. I’d be surprised if they roll back everything to how it was a year ago for even more money. They were probably hoping we’d stay up, Lavia stayed with us and they come back next year when they know if Phillips had worked out. It doesn’t make much sense for them to come back now. I don't foresee Phillips staying at City next season, it would be terrible for his career. I could see a world where they shift Phillips (they'll recoup most of what they paid) and buy Lavia. One would expect Willcox would still have contacts / a degree of influence over City. If City don't want him, then that is fair game. But we should be giving them first refusal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 55 minutes ago, Dman said: The only club we should be selling Lavia to is City, or at least giving them first dibs. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. In order to keep this relationship we have with them sweet, you do not go and sell a player who they have a buy back clause for to a main rival. I have to say, although he's clearly going to the very top - I think a move to a top PL club right now will be detrimental to his career. He needs to be playing games. Pretty sure City have the option to match any bid as part of the deal to get him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 Just now, revolution saint said: Pretty sure City have the option to match any bid as part of the deal to get him here. Nope, not until end of next season and even in that case, its a £40m buy back clause (i.e we have to accept their offer if its £40m) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 1 minute ago, revolution saint said: Pretty sure City have the option to match any bid as part of the deal to get him here. Only from the summer of 24/25 I believe. That's when all the City clauses kick in, in essence it was a 2 year loan from City - but relegation has muddied that a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dman said: Nope, not until end of next season and even in that case, its a £40m buy back clause (i.e we have to accept their offer if its £40m) 14 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Only from the summer of 24/25 I believe. That's when all the City clauses kick in, in essence it was a 2 year loan from City - but relegation has muddied that a lot. Fair enough - I thought the deal included the option to match any bid but I can't find it anywhere so you could be right. Doesn't really matter though - if City want him then they'll get him (assuming Lavia wants to go back there). In fact City are in a position to match any bid and still get him cheaper because of the sell on clause and I don't see a situation where they would be unaware of any potential deal. Not sure the timing is right for a move to City though - Lavia needs to be playing regularly and that's probably less likely if he went back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 I hope City buy him and loan him to a Palace-type club, or abroad. I'd hate to see him wasted on a big six bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthLondonSFC Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 Ryan Manning from Swansea on a free seems a given, highly rated in the championship, primarily LB but can also play CM, 10 assists 5 goals last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 2 hours ago, revolution saint said: Fair enough - I thought the deal included the option to match any bid but I can't find it anywhere so you could be right. Nothing stopping them matching anyone else's bid. I can see Dortmund coming in for him. The price might be a little on the high side for them, but possibly they could offer a huge sell on and/or other ads ons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 2 hours ago, SambaMaverick said: I hope City buy him and loan him to a Palace-type club, or abroad. I'd hate to see him wasted on a big six bench. I could certainly forsee them buying him and loaning him to West Ham, who will need a Rice replacement. I still think Chelsea is his most likely destination though, and given Pochs record of bringing on youngsters that'd be a good move for him IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 (edited) On 24/05/2023 at 18:51, Smirking_Saint said: I wouldn’t be against Vinagre Would prefer Manning or even Leif Davis from Ipswich Davis is a good shout. He's just had a great season. He looks very composed and is a powerful lad. I think he takes Ipswich set pieces too, which might be needed next year. Can't see Ipswich allowing him to join us though. Not seen Manning for Swansea. Not much footage of him on the web either. I watched a QPR video and he doesn't look all that quick. I don't think he is anywhere near as good technically as Vinegre, but realistically he's a more likely signing. Edited 26 May, 2023 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 13 minutes ago, Barsiem said: I could certainly forsee them buying him and loaning him to West Ham, who will need a Rice replacement. I still think Chelsea is his most likely destination though, and given Pochs record of bringing on youngsters that'd be a good move for him IMO Didn't the Enzo Fernandes signing effectively end their interest...at least for a year or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 Aaron Collins is another player we should be looking at. Had a brilliant season for Bristol Rovers and they need to sell to recoup losses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 22 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: One player I'd love us to sign this year is Harvey Vale, Left footer. A number 10 but can play on the wing a bit too. Couldn't get in the Hull side last year, so he returned early to Chelsea. He's only young, but not a great endorsement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 49 minutes ago, Chez said: Didn't the Enzo Fernandes signing effectively end their interest...at least for a year or two? Yeah you're probably right. They still have Kante as well so not exactly short in that position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Chez said: Nothing stopping them matching anyone else's bid. I can see Dortmund coming in for him. The price might be a little on the high side for them, but possibly they could offer a huge sell on and/or other ads ons. yeah i thought dortmund as well - they will have money to spend - maybe a bit outside their usual transfer spend as they usually like cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 May, 2023 Share Posted 26 May, 2023 5 hours ago, SambaMaverick said: I hope City buy him and loan him to a Palace-type club, or abroad. I'd hate to see him wasted on a big six bench. I think this is the most likely scenario. Whatever the exact rules of the sell-on are, I don't think City will let any other Champions League club have him in the summer. They'll just buy him back and loan him. The second most likely scenario is we loan him to West Ham or Palace or whoever, snd then City activate the clause the year after and we get our money. What I think we can be sure about is 1) City will have some say 2) He's never playing for us again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 27 May, 2023 Author Share Posted 27 May, 2023 (edited) Let’s just buy last season Championship TOTY. What could possibly go wrong 😁 Edited 27 May, 2023 by FarehamSaintJames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 27 May, 2023 Author Share Posted 27 May, 2023 I must admit it’s funny scrolling through the #saintsfc on Twitter at the moment. The amount of hypothetical signings people come up with are quite delusional. 😂 I still think JWP will stay, and dare I say it, I think Lavia will too. Alcaraz will unless he got a worldie offer from say Italy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 4 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I must admit it’s funny scrolling through the #saintsfc on Twitter at the moment. The amount of hypothetical signings people come up with are quite delusional. 😂 I still think JWP will stay, and dare I say it, I think Lavia will too. Alcaraz will unless he got a worldie offer from say Italy. I’d say you’re pretty delusional if you think all of those 3 are staying! You keep on saying you think JWP will stay - he 100% isn’t. He’s already gone, it’s been sorted for a few weeks now. Lavia will probably go, but only for a big fee (CB Fry above thinks we’ll loan him out - wtaf??? 😂😂😂) Alcaraz will likely stay. But, I repeat, JWP is gone and it’s done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 27 May, 2023 Author Share Posted 27 May, 2023 They’d be no benefit to us loaning Lavia out. May as well cash in while stock is high. JWP could well be 50/50, just got a feeling. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 17 hours ago, Chez said: Aaron Collins is another player we should be looking at. Had a brilliant season for Bristol Rovers and they need to sell to recoup losses. Yeah player of the year in L1 - goal and assist machine - only read about him but he defo will be moving somewhere this summer i'd guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 8 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: They’d be no benefit to us loaning Lavia out. May as well cash in while stock is high. JWP could well be 50/50, just got a feeling. 😂 I am 100% sure your right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 13 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I must admit it’s funny scrolling through the #saintsfc on Twitter at the moment. The amount of hypothetical signings people come up with are quite delusional. 😂 I still think JWP will stay, and dare I say it, I think Lavia will too. Alcaraz will unless he got a worldie offer from say Italy. So you’re taking the micky out of other fans, calling them delusional, but in the same breath think we’ll keep JWP, Lavia and Alcaraz, whilst also saying we should have bought in Potter as money talks. Ok pal, you are officially the Saintsweb version of Saint Rob and Andrew. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 17 hours ago, Chez said: Aaron Collins is another player we should be looking at. Had a brilliant season for Bristol Rovers and they need to sell to recoup losses. Nice omen, didn't we sign Rickie Lambert from a League One Bristol Rovers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 18 hours ago, Chez said: Aaron Collins is another player we should be looking at. Had a brilliant season for Bristol Rovers and they need to sell to recoup losses. How about bringing Eamon Collins too 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Convict Colony said: Yeah player of the year in L1 - goal and assist machine - only read about him but he defo will be moving somewhere this summer i'd guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 Couple of posters here adamant JWP is going. That's fair enough. But if they know deals are complete, never any mention of where he is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Couple of posters here adamant JWP is going. That's fair enough. But if they know deals are complete, never any mention of where he is going. Pretty sure it was posted on here it’s a done deal to Newcastle a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Pretty sure it was posted on here it’s a done deal to Newcastle a few weeks back. It was all over toon twitter a few weeks ago. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 22 hours ago, Dman said: Nope, not until end of next season and even in that case, its a £40m buy back clause (i.e we have to accept their offer if its £40m) they will be paying more than 40m on lawyers fees to sort out their financial irregularities......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Rickie came from there didnt he........................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: It was all over toon twitter a few weeks ago. Wouldn't surprise me at all. I think Trippier even told people in an interview it was happening didn’t he? It’s incredibly obvious he’s going, his interviews recently are a massive giveaway too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 Just assume that everyone is going and you won't be surprised. There's only about 4 or 5 players it would be worth keeping anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 2 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I must admit it’s funny scrolling through the #saintsfc on Twitter at the moment. The amount of hypothetical signings people come up with are quite delusional. 😂 I still think JWP will stay, and dare I say it, I think Lavia will too. Alcaraz will unless he got a worldie offer from say Italy. Yeah, them delusional people are, like, sooooo delusional. Thank god you're here and we can relax because Lavia and JWP will be lining up for us against Preston and Huddersfield next season #excited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 3 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Yeah, them delusional people are, like, sooooo delusional. Thank god you're here and we can relax because Lavia and JWP will be lining up for us against Preston and Huddersfield next season #excited I do fear that we may start the season with them, knowing they are likely to be going at end of the window. (ridulously far into the season!) Wish, although not realistic, every who is going all go next week and we can move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 For me a new keeper should be high up in our list of priorities. I see Bazunu making the same mistakes next season and failing to save much. Doubt we'll be in the mix for promotion without a good bloke between the sticks. I worry we're going to stick with him just because we're in a lower league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 The Lavia one is fascinating. What will City do? I cant see, if they rate him, them letting Liverpool, United or Arsenal (even Chelsea) snap him up from under their noses. So does the £40 million 2 year clause get thrown out the window ? I mean are their hands tied a bit because of that or do they just pay over the agreed price if/when the others make a firm bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 (edited) double post Edited 27 May, 2023 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2023 Share Posted 27 May, 2023 I just want sexy fast and accurate footballers with a balance of 50% under 23 and the others over. I want possession with intent and I want a lot a lot a lot of goals and no comedy defending. Basically I want us to be a cross of prime Barca, Brazil and Man City with our budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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