Russell Martin

[Willo of Whiteley]

Russell Martin left on horrific terms with the board and players. He doesn’t like the board and the board doesn’t like him.

It won’t happen. 

It’s the same reason Gary O’Neill won’t be our manager, as soon as there is a single mistake or one defeat the fans will be in uproar, and there’s no coming back from that.

[Saint Billy]

I've seen dogs eat their own vomit but SR are taking this a stage further if they reappoint RM. Do they not fekin realise that he is responsible for a lot of the shit we are in now, and if this happens they are eating it.

[rallyboy]

I don't know what the dislike of Martin is all about, he interviews incredibly well, his job conversion stats are right up there, it's just the managing that exposes him.

Anyway, I'm not buying those rumours, they smack of lazy headlines and clickbait - if he came back and lost two games the owners would be royally fucked and finished, an insane gamble.

Carrick sounds more plausible.

Please.

[RedArmy]

8 hours ago, washsaint said:

If the rumours are true and the senior players are pushing for Martin that says it all.  Those wankers are why we are in the position we are and if they want Martin back he's definitely the wrong choice because this set of gutless, pathetic, weak minded tossers are poison and wanting their mate back really does say it all.

They want their 4 days a week off back again. 

[skintsaint]

19 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

I don't know what the dislike of Martin is all about

😅

 

[OldNick]

Listening to the Solent phone in a debate, I listened to some of our fans, OMG what are they on, as for the one who went off on one and said MLT lol.

Prutton came on and was saying how wonderful RM is and would be, I was disappointed that none of the people in the studio didnt pull hm up and tell him how the majority of fns thought about him.

Itwas like when Hoddle was going to return, real vitriol. If they even consider Oneill for a second they really are not Saints/football people with any understanding of having an Ex Skate at the club and the jibes of Agent Oneill

[jasonbenali]

The cynic in me thinks you drop Martin's name into the frame through 'insiders', mention that Eckert also an option and then when you appoint someone that you've never heard of but you believe will be yet another coaching masterstroke the fans will go, well, at least it's not one of them...

(edit - couldn't remember how to spell Eckert as had never heard of him...)

Edited 11 hours ago by jasonbenali

[beatlesaint]

Guys, Spors does not like posession football, he likes the high press. We have spent close on £50 million in the summer on players designed for high press NOT RM's tappy tappy shite.

There is no way Spors is choosing RM, they/he may be incompetent but they do stop short of lunacy !

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Guys, Spors does not like posession football, he likes the high press. We have spent close on £50 million in the summer on players designed for high press NOT RM's tappy tappy shite.

There is no way Spors is choosing RM, they/he may be incompetent but they do stop short of lunacy !

I don't want Martin back at all but is Azaz a high press player? Fellows? 

[hypochondriac]

27 minutes ago, jasonbenali said:

The cynic in me thinks you drop Martin's name into the frame through 'insiders', mention that Eckert also an option and then when you appoint someone that you've never heard of but you believe will be yet another coaching masterstroke the fans will go, well, at least it's not one of them...

(edit - couldn't remember how to spell Eckert as had never heard of him...)

Yep. I reckon it will be a foreigner and probably someone from Germany.

[Appy]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't want Martin back at all but is Azaz a high press player? Fellows? 

Not convinced on Azaz but I think Fellows could be, if we stop playing him at wing back. 

[AlexLaw76]

40 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Listening to the Solent phone in a debate, I listened to some of our fans, OMG what are they on, as for the one who went off on one and said MLT lol.

Prutton came on and was saying how wonderful RM is and would be, I was disappointed that none of the people in the studio didnt pull hm up and tell him how the majority of fns thought about him.

Itwas like when Hoddle was going to return, real vitriol. If they even consider Oneill for a second they really are not Saints/football people with any understanding of having an Ex Skate at the club and the jibes of Agent Oneill

He was a nutter.... 😂

[beatlesaint]

4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't want Martin back at all but is Azaz a high press player? Fellows? 

Well thats a fair point, I guess they are supposed to be our flair players.......well Alcaraz was soon booted out by the bearded wizard wasnt he ?

[westmidlandsaint]

1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

I don't know what the dislike of Martin is all about, he interviews incredibly well

Really??? I find him one of the most obnoxious & arrogant managers around. Turns out the same drivel over and over again, was doing so at Rangers recently "must be braver" bollocks. Never any accountability that maybe his keep ball plan doesnt work and quick to throw people under the bus. 

[Fabrice29]

41 minutes ago, jasonbenali said:

The cynic in me thinks you drop Martin's name into the frame through 'insiders', mention that Eckert also an option and then when you appoint someone that you've never heard of but you believe will be yet another coaching masterstroke the fans will go, well, at least it's not one of them...

(edit - couldn't remember how to spell Eckert as had never heard of him...)

Or the ex pompey player and Bournemouth manager

[AlexLaw76]

He'd rather lose playing his way, than adapt.

Except, we did adapt as we tailed off in the Championship season (then shifted back to his madness)

[SaintsLoyal]

Hes a tool and these 'senior players' can do one anyway.

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

RM in advanced talks according to the press. 

I sincerely hope this is BS. If he comes back then that'll be the final straw for me. 

[skintsaint]

1 minute ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

RM in advanced talks according to the press. 

I sincerely hope this is BS. If he comes back then that'll be the final straw for me. 

[Farmer Saint]

He can't be coming back - Alfie House said the club hated him.

[Midfield_General]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Yep. I reckon it will be a foreigner and probably someone from Germany.

As far as shortlisted candidates go I'm hearing whispers from a lot of people I trust about Heiner Backhaus, manager of Eintracht Braunschweig.

Braunschweig are currently 15th in Bundesliga 2. They have won 3 of their first 11 games but they have been unlucky in a lot of those and their -10 goal difference doesn't reflect the amount of possession they have had in games. 

Backhaus likes a high-intensity, pressing game. He's got a recent promotion on his CV as he got Alemmania Achen out of the third tier, and he also kept them up. At 43 he's a younger manager, so he's still making his way in the game but has got a lot of potential and is under the radar at the moment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...is probably what Johannes Spors is thinking.

Edited 9 hours ago by Midfield_General

[kitch]

I know the logical side of everything says the RM rumours are just lazy journos, but this club's been such a dumpster fire in recent years, I'm still getting anxious there's an element of truth in it.

I'd be fucking LIVID. I think Sports Republic would probably go down as our worst ever owners if they were to do that, and we've had Rupert Lowe.

[Oldandtired]

21 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

RM in advanced talks according to the press. 

 

I was brought up not to swear.

Fuck. Right. Off.

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

Anyone else thing that Carrick would be a sensible appointment? 

 

[StrangelyBrown]

26 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

RM in advanced talks according to the press. 

I sincerely hope this is BS. If he comes back then that'll be the final straw for me. 

Likewise. I've got better things to do than watch wingers recycle the ball endlessly and our defence to gift goals away by playing football in the stupidest of places. Any one who thinks Stills football is worse has a very short memory.

Edited 10 hours ago by StrangelyBrown

[Midfield_General]

17 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

He can't be coming back - Alfie House said the club hated him.

I heard that too, but who at the club specifically? 

Dragan said in his big summer interview that he didn't want to fire him and would have given him more time. Spors didn't join until after Martin had left. 

So in terms of people in positions of enough power at the club to influence the selection of a new manager, that can only really mean Parsons or Rasmus. Rasmus's focus is on Goztepe now he's unlikely to be a key decision-maker, and if it's just Parsons then that is very different to 'the whole board hate him', particularly if Dragan thinks Parsons is also a bit shit, which surely he must do by now. 

[Sheaf Saint]

25 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

RM in advanced talks according to the press. 

I sincerely hope this is BS. If he comes back then that'll be the final straw for me. 

What press? Where has this been reported?

[Midfield_General]

27 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

RM in advanced talks according to the press. 

I sincerely hope this is BS. If he comes back then that'll be the final straw for me. 

Have you got a link to that press piece about advanced talks please? Cheers

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Anyone else thing that Carrick would be a sensible appointment? 

 

Anyone would because sensible appointment bar fuckin Martin 

[malcolm waldron]

22 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

As far as shortlisted candidates go I'm hearing whispers from a lot of people I trust about Heiner Backhaus, manager of Eintracht Braunschweig.

Braunschweig are currently 15th in Bundesliga 2. They have won 3 of their first 11 games but they have been unlucky in a lot of those and their -10 goal difference doesn't reflect the amount of possession they have had in games. 

Backhaus likes a high-intensity, pressing game. He's got a recent promotion on his CV as he got Alemmania Achen out of the third tier, and he also kept them up. At 43 he's a younger manager, so he's still making his way his game but has got a lot of potential and is under the radar at the moment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...is probably what Johannes Spors is thinking.

I think you and I have got the same club contact - as I was hearing his name over the weekend.  I follow German second division football very closely and I'm fairly sure I saw his team lose 5-0 to FC Magdeburg at home.  They were very unlucky and on another day it might have been only a 4-5 defeat or, with a wee bit of luck, maybe they might have stumbled to 5-5.  Someone with that kind of nous and ability would be ideal for Stoke away on a Tuesday night.  My main concern is his age.  At 43 he's presumably too old for us.....?

[Sarnia Cherie]

Lots of unlucky, might, only, doesn't fill me with any hope. Saints have existed on those 3 words for years now. It's depressing.

[Saintsfanuk]

How is Martin returning even a rumour, must be Martin himself getting his name about. Spors in the man responsible for appointing he has already failed with Still he's not going to ruin himself further by appointing a failed manager again.

Imagine he gets appointed and we lose a few games straight away, it'll be absolutely toxic. I reckon he would get a period of 2 minutes until the insane passing backwards and having the players lose it on the edge of the box again would just get booed. We would also have to sack him if he got us up as he is a complete failure at that level as already proved. 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Saintsfanuk

[imadirtyurchin]

What the club needs is an appointment that doesn’t immediately divide and antagonise an already angry fanbase. What the fans need is a managerial appointment that isn’t so ideologically wedded to pedestrian, propaganda football that is riddled with errors and conceding goals and can actually get results. No one cares about winning the possession league. 

What I need is never to have to suffer Martin-ball at my club ever again. I’d rather watch my nails grow.

[OldNick]

1 hour ago, Midfield_General said:

I heard that too, but who at the club specifically? 

Dragan said in his big summer interview that he didn't want to fire him and would have given him more time. Spors didn't join until after Martin had left. 

So in terms of people in positions of enough power at the club to influence the selection of a new manager, that can only really mean Parsons or Rasmus. Rasmus's focus is on Goztepe now he's unlikely to be a key decision-maker, and if it's just Parsons then that is very different to 'the whole board hate him', particularly if Dragan thinks Parsons is also a bit shit, which surely he must do by now. 

To me if I was the owner Id be happy with Parsons for the way he was developing the commercial side

[Eire Saint]

Divisive from the off, would be a crazy appointment. Impossible to build positivity and get the fans back behind the team when so many of us hate his style of play. 

[Midfield_General]

2 minutes ago, OldNick said:

To me if I was the owner Id be happy with Parsons for the way he was developing the commercial side

Which is fine but that is a very different brief to helping select the new manager. The point is that Alfie was saying that ‘the board’ don’t like Martin and wouldn’t  reappoint him, but if that’s not Dragan (who said he wanted to keep him), not Spors (who wasn’t there), not Parsons (who is focused on commercials) and not Rasmus (who is focused on Goztepe), then who is left that Alfie is suggesting would block an RM return? 

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Which is fine but that is a very different brief to helping select the new manager. The point is that Alfie was saying that ‘the board’ don’t like Martin and wouldn’t  reappoint him, but if that’s not Dragan (who said he wanted to keep him), not Spors (who wasn’t there), not Parsons (who is focused on commercials) and not Rasmus (who is focused on Goztepe), then who is left that Alfie is suggesting would block an RM return? 

Fairbut whoever it is, has the clout to stop him coming back!

[Lord Duckhunter]

Guys at the end of the day it’s our club. “Southampton till I die”, not conditional on who is in the hot seat. I won’t be happy but I’ll give him a reasonable amount of time to start winning before calling for his head. About 15 mins into his spell  is reasonable, if we’re not 2 up by then, the Lego headed cock will be getting some clog from me ..

Edited 8 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Yep. I reckon it will be a foreigner and probably someone from Germany.

Call me mystic Meg!

 Johannes Spors is leading Southampton's manager search and is believed to be looking towards Germany for preferred options –– Ralph Hasenhuttl is not one of them

Unless it's Marco rose it's probably going to be some clever twatty appointment that no one will be happy with rather than someone with championship or English league experience.

[saintant]

Anyone know what time Russboy's presser for the QPR game is?

[Verbal]

12 minutes ago, saintant said:

Anyone know what time Russboy's presser for the QPR game is?

He's managing them now? Easy win for us, assuming "easy" is a thing we still do occasionally.

[SaintsBarry74]

3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

What press? Where has this been reported?

Countless posts on X saying the same thing. 

I’m not disappointed - I’m fucking fuming.

[23rdSaint]

4 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Countless posts on X saying the same thing. 

I’m not disappointed - I’m fucking fuming.

You might want to calm down a little bit. None of those sources are credible 👍

[Sheaf Saint]

8 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

Countless posts on X saying the same thing. 

I’m not disappointed - I’m fucking fuming.

Thanks but none of those confirm we are in advanced talks (as SF3 alluded to). They're literally just speculating based on current bookies' odds, which are of course just bollocks because if we really were in advanced talks then betting on this market would be suspended by now.

[so22saint]

Only reason I see that SR would reappoint Martin would be financial.  Basically - tear up the settlement agreement we no doubt haven't entirely paid and we get £5m-£8m back

[Sheaf Saint]

14 minutes ago, so22saint said:

Only reason I see that SR would reappoint Martin would be financial.  Basically - tear up the settlement agreement we no doubt haven't entirely paid and we get £5m-£8m back

We would have stopped paying him the moment he accepted the job offer from Rangers.

[saintant]

14 minutes ago, so22saint said:

Only reason I see that SR would reappoint Martin would be financial.  Basically - tear up the settlement agreement we no doubt haven't entirely paid and we get £5m-£8m back

If that were true (which I doubt) it would be like asking Martin to pay us £5-£8m to come and be our manager.  Even he wouldn't do that.

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

We would have stopped paying him the moment he accepted the job offer from Rangers.

I thinkwe paid him out for the length of contract left and so itwouldnt matter if he had gone elsewhere

[Saint86]

It isn't RM, not a cat's chance in hell....

Knowing SR, they could find someone even worse though 😄

Edited 6 hours ago by Saint86

[Dark Munster]

3 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

‘the board’ don’t like Martin and wouldn’t  reappoint him, but if that’s not Dragan (who said he wanted to keep him), 

Could you give a link to that interview? Maybe he was diplomatically saying he didn’t want him sacked in the sense he didn’t want the club to be in such shit. I remember just before the sacking him being furious and kicking chairs over. 5-0 at half time against Spurs with the players completely giving up was the final straw. Then of course ending up with the humiliating 12 points. I find it hard to believe Dragan wants that wanker back. Rasmus yes, Dragan no.