Holmes_and_Watson Posted August 31 Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Eagle778 said: When we lost to Leicester 2-1 last year at home, he was the first one of the parking lot 15 mins after the end of the game. Talk about commitment… 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: 2-3 wasn’t it after being 2-0 up? MLG mode deactivated. Bloomin' Downes! In the car park, before the match has even finished. 🙂 2
stknowle Posted August 31 Posted August 31 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: It didn't mention anything about birds, ponies or 9 pinters so I'm not sure of its accuracy. Chicks, alehouses, and son-in-laws also conspicuously absent. AI got a LOOONG way to go before I’ll consider getting in a driverless taxi. 2
Winnersaint Posted August 31 Posted August 31 31 minutes ago, stknowle said: Chicks, alehouses, and son-in-laws also conspicuously absent. AI got a LOOONG way to go before I’ll consider getting in a driverless taxi. What a load of old pony! 2
gio1saints Posted August 31 Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Bloomin' Downes! In the car park, before the match has even finished. 🙂 He’s been a right cheeky toy! Getting the old Nicks and pulling a Huey like that. I reckon his troubles got into a right eight over all this! 1
RedArmy Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Just now, gio1saints said: He’s been a right cheeky toy! Getting the old Nicks and pulling a Huey like that. I reckon his troubles got into a right eight over all this! What the fuck are you talking about now?
Sheaf Saint Posted August 31 Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, RedArmy said: What the fuck are you talking about now? 1
gio1saints Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Open yer minces me old mucks. You acting half a brick ain’t yer?
coalman Posted August 31 Posted August 31 18 minutes ago, RedArmy said: What the fuck are you talking about now? I believe the esteemed gentleman has been on the jellied eels. 1
macca155 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 Of course he could of course just have been ill. We're all so suspicious these days that we're bound to read more into things. He's always struck me as a decent pro, so I doubt he'd pull a stunt just before ko. He's a decent player I wouldn't write him off too quickly. Nevertheless he clearly doesn't suit Still's system, and it really wouldn't surprise me if he goes off on loan somewhere. Maybe to make room for Sesay if required. Didn't Edwards play CDM at one point. He could be emergency cover.
benjii Posted August 31 Posted August 31 1 hour ago, gio1saints said: He’s been a right cheeky toy! Getting the old Nicks and pulling a Huey like that. I reckon his troubles got into a right eight over all this! Huey Lewis and the News = he needed some poos? 2
Gloucester Saint Posted August 31 Posted August 31 15 minutes ago, benjii said: Huey Lewis and the News = he needed some poos? Came out of his bum like Pedigree Chum.
gio1saints Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, benjii said: Huey Lewis and the News = he needed some poos? Just for you @benjii a Huey is a spew and a spew is, well, a kind of vomiting. Most Cockerels know that and those that cotton like. Edited August 31 by gio1saints
Willo of Whiteley Posted August 31 Posted August 31 On 30/08/2025 at 18:05, S-Clarke said: It's a shame the fans views went 360 on this guy so quickly, but he made his bed by having his little spat during January. In our worst ever season, he downed tools and wanted out. Yeah, cheers. This entirely. He’s one of those players that is accomplished at this level but not at Premier League; but his attitude last season casts a very big shadow over him. He strikes me as someone who wants to go but is probably not kicking up as much of a fuss as others, he must be aware he isn’t good enough for the next level. 😂
Osvaldorama Posted September 14 Posted September 14 Wtf has happened to him? Thought he was really poor again today. He looked so good when he first signed, but he just gives it away constantly now 1
S-Clarke Posted September 14 Posted September 14 4 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Wtf has happened to him? Thought he was really poor again today. He looked so good when he first signed, but he just gives it away constantly now He doesn't have Martin's style to hide his deficiencies anymore. He's now expected to move the ball forward and drive a little more, but he's as passive as he ever was. It shows up more because he's alongside a sitter, he's not the 'sitter' himself anymore. We need a CM to drive forward. Last season Stu and to a degree Aribo did that, but Charles and Downes together is just pure nothingness. It's one of the other, and I'm sorry to say Flynn, it's not you. Take 10-15m in Jan and be done with him. 8
Saint Fan CaM Posted September 14 Posted September 14 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: He doesn't have Martin's style to hide his deficiencies anymore. He's now expected to move the ball forward and drive a little more, but he's as passive as he ever was. It shows up more because he's alongside a sitter, he's not the 'sitter' himself anymore. We need a CM to drive forward. Last season Stu and to a degree Aribo did that, but Charles and Downes together is just pure nothingness. It's one of the other, and I'm sorry to say Flynn, it's not you. Take 10-15m in Jan and be done with him. Spot bollock on.👌
saintant Posted September 14 Posted September 14 Think we should have tried to offload him in the transfer window. Always strikes me as a squad disrupter and he's really pretty average/poor in midfield. 1
sockeye Posted September 14 Posted September 14 He should have gone in January after his spat with Juric - his heart’s not in it and his football is turgid. 2
Harry_SFC Posted September 14 Posted September 14 2 hours ago, sockeye said: He should have gone in January after his spat with Juric - his heart’s not in it and his football is turgid. Yeah I think Juric probably pulled him up on his attitude and he didn't like it. He's only ever been a system player but under Martin he seemed well up for every game. Since his bestie left I've seen very little commitment at all. 2
LGTL Posted September 14 Posted September 14 It was obvious that Downes and Charles wouldn’t work when they played together at Bristol City. Need to break this pairing up.
S-Clarke Posted September 14 Posted September 14 27 minutes ago, LGTL said: It was obvious that Downes and Charles wouldn’t work when they played together at Bristol City. Need to break this pairing up. Thankfully we brought in Jander, otherwise we'd have been screwed for options. I think we're still 1 light in there if I'm totally honest. 1
Turkish Posted September 15 Posted September 15 9 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Thankfully we brought in Jander, otherwise we'd have been screwed for options. I think we're still 1 light in there if I'm totally honest. Nah Aribo is still here and decent enough. That’s 4 for 2 positions with Azaz and Matsuki for the more advanced role. We don’t need any more than that, you’d think Jander will eventually replace Downes on current form. 3
spyinthesky Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Really disappointed in Downes performance so far this season. Two seasons ago he was a very decent midfield player for us. So far this season his performances have been very disappointing and includes the obligatory yellow card. Hopefully Lander will fit in nicely in midfield and perhaps Aribo will be given another shot. Not the greatest fan of Aribo but taking into account Downes poor form, I wouldnt be averse to see Aribo taking Downes place in a three man midfield along with Charles and Lander.
sledger Posted September 15 Posted September 15 you only need look at downes face when he was subbed off,it said why the uck am i the one coming off,west ham saw through him and now we are,cant all be wrong.
RedArmy Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago That’s the Downes we need this season. Maybe he benefits from not playing alongside Charles. 1
S-Clarke Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 9 minutes ago, RedArmy said: That’s the Downes we need this season. Maybe he benefits from not playing alongside Charles. This is my take. It's one of Downes or Charles, I don't think they're any good together. 1
Harry_SFC Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: This is my take. It's one of Downes or Charles, I don't think they're any good together. It's a dilemma for Still because Charles was very good when he came on. Although it looks like Jander is injured now. 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 20 minutes ago, RedArmy said: That’s the Downes we need this season. Maybe he benefits from not playing alongside Charles. Maybe he put it in because it was at Anfield. Never judge a player at a big ground, against a top side. Judge them when they’re playing a muck & bullets league game against sides were in and amongst. 3 1
S-Clarke Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Maybe he put it in because it was at Anfield. Never judge a player at a big ground, against a top side. Judge them when they’re playing a muck & bullets league game against sides were in and amongst. That's also my feeling, I'm a little bit cynical in that regard! But you see it all too often, players step it up for the big TV games at the big PL ground, and then shirk away in the bog standard away days at Sheffield United or Derby etc. Proof will be in the pudding in the league games, that's where it matters.
RedArmy Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Maybe he put it in because it was at Anfield. Never judge a player at a big ground, against a top side. Judge them when they’re playing a muck & bullets league game against sides were in and amongst. True but we all know what a difference that Downes we saw tonight makes to this side. Id give him one more chance in the league alongside Jander and if he reverts to type then he can rot on the bench.
saintant Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Maybe he put it in because it was at Anfield. Never judge a player at a big ground, against a top side. Judge them when they’re playing a muck & bullets league game against sides were in and amongst. What rubbish. 3
Mboto Gorge Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, saintant said: What rubbish. To be fair, if games against liverpool were the only games judged , Sulemana would’ve been our player of the season twice running Edited 17 hours ago by Mboto Gorge 3 1
austsaint Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mboto Gorge said: To be fair, if games against liverpool were the only games judged , Sulemana would’ve been our player of the season twice running Tough call. Downes was fantastic tonight. The best midfielder on the pitch and Saints best by a clear margin.
lambtiss Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 8 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: Flynn was my man of the match tonight 😊 Does this show that his form down to attitude? I.e. raises his game for Liverpool but doesn’t do it against Stoke or Wrexham?
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Thought him and Jander were very good last night. Was noticeable t that we seemed to concerns when Jander came off. 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 11 hours ago, saintant said: What rubbish. So the bloke who has been absolutely pony all season, going through the motions, all of a sudden has a good game at Anfield , and it’s a coincidence? 😂 You can’t judge players or sides in games they have to put it in (because if they don’t they’ll get done 5 or 6). You judge them on games where they can get away with not doing so. We drew with Man City last season, you think they put the same effort in they did against Bournemouth & Wolves?
skintsaint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, lambtiss said: Does this show that his form down to attitude? I.e. raises his game for Liverpool but doesn’t do it against Stoke or Wrexham? Yeah impress for the cameras for his Jan transfer move.
SWLondon Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago He was great last night out of possession, but there were quite a few occasions when he played Russ-ball passes backwards and sideways which actually put us in more trouble than if he'd just put his foot on it or through it. One in particular 2nd half I remember there was no-one in 10 yards of him, we had runners and players left side but he didn't even look forward, just played it without thinking back to Wood, it went right, their press came and we lost it. Needs to get that out of his system. 1
saintwbu Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Downes and Jander combo for me, Charles just not quick enough when he gets the ball - a good ball winner but slows us down imo.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Downes and Jander combo for me, Charles just not quick enough when he gets the ball - a good ball winner but slows us down imo. And sideways & backwards Downes doesn’t? Incredibly harsh on Charles who had done ok this season, to be left out for a bloke who has only turned up in one game. People are forgetting quite how bad Downes has been before yesterday. 1
saintant Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: So the bloke who has been absolutely pony all season, going through the motions, all of a sudden has a good game at Anfield , and it’s a coincidence? 😂 You can’t judge players or sides in games they have to put it in (because if they don’t they’ll get done 5 or 6). You judge them on games where they can get away with not doing so. We drew with Man City last season, you think they put the same effort in they did against Bournemouth & Wolves? Yes, it is clearly a coincidence. Why on earth and what would Downes gain by picking big games to play well in? It is abject and utter nonsense.
AlexLaw76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, saintant said: Yes, it is clearly a coincidence. Why on earth and what would Downes gain by picking big games to play well in? It is abject and utter nonsense. He may have played well as Liverpool were keen to attack and leave gaps across midfield. no chance Boro will be as open as that at the weekend
saintant Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, AlexLaw76 said: He may have played well as Liverpool were keen to attack and leave gaps across midfield. no chance Boro will be as open as that at the weekend It's a possibility but the inference was that he picks and chooses when to play well which is what I'm questioning.
RedArmy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, saintant said: Why on earth and what would Downes gain by picking big games to play well in? The transfer that he’s clearly wanted since Martin left. 1
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