Turkish Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 Wages = £96k If the figures are right and osvaldo has cost us £25m then the amount of money wasted by the peoples chairman must be getting near on £100m. A similar figure for Ramirez, plus the other not so expensive failures like Mayuka and Forren, the over spending to the tune of £15-£20m on the training ground and the off shore loans, legal costs as well as his own wage and expenses which put him up there with the best paid chairmen in the county. Add in the lack of income he was generating then the picture isn't pretty. I remember the days when people used to insist he was a great businessman, let's hear the case for that now.
egg Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 If the figures are right and osvaldo has cost us £25m then the amount of money wasted by the peoples chairman must be getting near on £100m. A similar figure for Ramirez, plus the other not so expensive failures like Mayuka and Forren, the over spending to the tune of £15-£20m on the training ground and the off shore loans, legal costs as well as his own wage and expenses which put him up there with the best paid chairmen in the county. Add in the lack of income he was generating then the picture isn't pretty. I remember the days when people used to insist he was a great businessman, let's hear the case for that now. Training ground overspend = £24-25m Del. Car crash stuff.
mulletsaint Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 Just goes to show how ****ed up football is. In any other job he'd have been sacked long ago. Seems the only way a player doesn't get a pay-off for being a **** is if they rape, murder or fail a drugs test.
SuperSAINT Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 He could be signing for Palace. :lol: http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017
the saint in winchester Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 Simon Peach: I am led to believe Dani Osvaldo cost #SaintsFC in the region of £25million when you add up transfer fee, wages & termination agreement. That's frightening. Can we sue Pochiettino/Cortese for professional misconduct?
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 That's frightening. Can we sue Pochiettino/Cortese for professional misconduct? For signing a player?
the saint in winchester Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 "fighting with Fonte" !!!! This wasn't a playground spat between 6 yo. Talk about re-writing history. I don't like the thought of him playing for us, but I would hate the thought of Fonte coming up against him. Someone would be getting a red card!
angelman Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what.
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what. Well given that it's talksport...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what. I wouldn't mind betting he's been paid the vast majority of what he would have earned at Saints over the course of the last two years of his deal. What would be his motivation to accept a nominal amount?
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 I wouldn't mind betting he's been paid the vast majority of what he would have earned at Saints over the course of the last two years of his deal. What would be his motivation to accept a nominal amount? Because he can go and sign for another club and earn even more from them. More to the point, what is Saints motivation to give him 2 years wages up front when we could have saved money loaning him out.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 Because he can go and sign for another club and earn even more from them. More to the point, what is Saints motivation to give him 2 years wages up front when we could have saved money loaning him out. If he could do that we may as well have loaned him out? I suspect the market for him is tiny?
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 I wouldn't mind betting he's been paid the vast majority of what he would have earned at Saints over the course of the last two years of his deal. What would be his motivation to accept a nominal amount? Contrary to what everybody believes, he doesn't hold all of the cards in this situation. Let's remember, he violently assaulted a colleague. In any other walk of life that would be grounds for instant, summary dismissal and termination of contract. If I did it to one of my work colleagues, I would be out the door so fast my feet wouldn't touch the ground. Now, the club obviously didn't take this course of action at the time due to the fact that he, as our most expensive signing ever, represented too much of a financial investment to just cut their losses. They tried very hard to get somebody to take him off our hands so that we could recoup some of that investment, but he managed to screw up every opportunity he had at any other club and it became obvious that we would never get any kind of transfer fee for him. It seems to me that because of the passage of time since the incident with Fonte, the club may have felt that to just 'sack' him now might have left them open to litigation from the player / his agent, and therefore decided it was best to come to a settlement with him instead.
Doctoroncall Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 What ever fine he got for Newcastle and Jose it would have only been 2 weeks wages max as that is the maximum permissible. With players seemingly holding all the cards plus a few extras up their sleeves, you would hope in the time that has elapsed the club have been able to armour their backsides enough to pull the plug on this waste of space at the minimum of expense. I thought it was in line with his suspension of 8 games so about 6 weeks of wages blown, hence why he hasn't been seen at the club since if there has been no contrition on his part.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 If he could do that we may as well have loaned him out? I suspect the market for him is tiny? Well apparently he's turned down Boca and wants to go back to Italy where he has a few middling clubs after him, might be just agent bollarks though.
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 If he could do that we may as well have loaned him out? I suspect the market for him is tiny? The point is there is absolutely no motivation for Saints to just pay him up for 2 years. Even if we sent him of on loan for the next year and still paid 90% of his wages, it's better than what you're suggesting.
egg Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what. I've no idea what the severance package is but £6mil is a years salary plus a million.
ericofarabia Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 He could be signing for Palace. :lol: I thought Brentford had bought him when I saw they've just shelled out 2 million on a A Bellend ;-)
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 Wages = £96k I've no idea what the severance package is but £6mil is a years salary plus a million. Where are you getting that figure? Those are Liverpool or Arsenal wages I can't believe we'd be so reckless after 1 year in the Premier League. Every other report I've seen was in the region of £60k. That fits with the £6m and £25m reports but TBH that just sounds like someone doing easy maths as opposed to actual inside knowledge of the deal.
egg Posted 2 July, 2015 Posted 2 July, 2015 Where are you getting that figure? Those are Liverpool or Arsenal wages I can't believe we'd be so reckless after 1 year in the Premier League. Every other report I've seen was in the region of £60k. That fits with the £6m and £25m reports but TBH that just sounds like someone doing easy maths as opposed to actual inside knowledge of the deal. I posted on here last April that the staplewood spend had gone from to £38m from £14m. That was 6 months or so before the figures became public. If he's received £6mil it's a years income plus a mil.
beavis17 Posted 14 July, 2015 Posted 14 July, 2015 Juan Arango @JuanG_Arango 1m1 minute agoHollywood, FL Looks like @danistone25 will be arriving over at @Cruz_Azul_FC in the next few hours.
Window Cleaner Posted 14 July, 2015 Posted 14 July, 2015 Juan Arango @JuanG_Arango 1m1 minute agoHollywood, FL Looks like @danistone25 will be arriving over at @Cruz_Azul_FC in the next few hours. Thought he only wanted to play in Italy.
Saint Martini Posted 16 July, 2015 Posted 16 July, 2015 Thought he only wanted to play in Italy. Easy mistake to make
Saint IQ Posted 16 July, 2015 Posted 16 July, 2015 Wanted by Betis now http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/159011/osvaldo-excited-by-real-betis-interest/
Gemmel Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3770657/Dani-Osvaldo-retires-football-pursue-music-career-maverick-striker-turned-Chievo-offer.html His severance pay from us must have helped him with that decision :)
thesaint sfc Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 I feel like we're still paying for this w*nker. If we hadn't signed him and Gaston, or if they had worked out to both be decent signings, I wonder how much more frivolous Kat would be with her cheque book? I feel like she's a very dilligent woman who takes a lot of convincing and these two signings set us back a few years.
Mr X Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 I feel like we're still paying for this w*nker. If we hadn't signed him and Gaston, or if they had worked out to both be decent signings, I wonder how much more frivolous Kat would be with her cheque book? I feel like she's a very dilligent woman who takes a lot of convincing and these two signings set us back a few years. Agreed
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 I feel like we're still paying for this w*nker. If we hadn't signed him and Gaston, or if they had worked out to both be decent signings, I wonder how much more frivolous Kat would be with her cheque book? I feel like she's a very dilligent woman who takes a lot of convincing and these two signings set us back a few years. It doesn't matter who's in charge, in any business any losses you make somehwere have to be compensated by the gains.
Doctoroncall Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 I feel like we're still paying for this w*nker. If we hadn't signed him and Gaston, or if they had worked out to both be decent signings, I wonder how much more frivolous Kat would be with her cheque book? I feel like she's a very dilligent woman who takes a lot of convincing and these two signings set us back a few years. Osvaldo was and is a complete côck and shouldn't have been signed. Gaston was worth the risk and it was a shame it didn't work out.
Lighthouse Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 Osvaldo was and is a complete côck and shouldn't have been signed. Gaston was worth the risk and it was a shame it didn't work out. This basically. They can't all be Lovren/Mané/Lambert triple your money signings.
eurosaint Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 It was a mistake and Pochettino must surely take most of the blame as he had worked with him before and no doubt pushed the deal through ! I can't believe for a moment that he was a 'black box' purchase !
Gunnery Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 He was a massive bellend but that goal v Man City when he put Kompany on his arris was A1 !
UpweySaint Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 He was a massive bellend but that goal v Man City when he put Kompany on his arris was A1 ! That was a peach, did think bloody hell we might have something here ... alas all we had was a prize A d**khead!
davefoggy Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 Dani Osvaldo, scorer of the greatest goal by a Saints player at St Marys
Heisenberg Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 This is the problem with our approach - buy low, sell high. Just takes a dud or two like Osvaldo and Gaston Ramieriz and boooom you've lost £50 million just like that!!
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 Dani Osvaldo, scorer of the greatest goal by a Saints player at St Marys Plenty better, Cuco for example.
Batman Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 Plenty better, Cuco for example. what else? Delap was a corker
Lighthouse Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 what else? Delap was a corker Baird vs. Cardiff. Vignal vs. Leicester Pelle vs. QPR Lallana vs. Hull Lallana vs. Newcastle Beattie vs. Arsenal Skacel vs. Yeovil Thomas vs. Ipswich Tadanari vs. Derby Plus any number of Lambert and Bale free kicks.
DuncanRG Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 I feel like we're still paying for this w*nker. If we hadn't signed him and Gaston, or if they had worked out to both be decent signings, I wonder how much more frivolous Kat would be with her cheque book? I feel like she's a very dilligent woman who takes a lot of convincing and these two signings set us back a few years. I don't want her to be 'frivolous' with her money, particularly. Osvaldo was an utterly bizarre episode. The blame has to lie with Cortese, doesn't it? Seems like it was his thing.
Batman Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 Baird vs. Cardiff. Vignal vs. Leicester Pelle vs. QPR Lallana vs. Hull Lallana vs. Newcastle Beattie vs. Arsenal Skacel vs. Yeovil Thomas vs. Ipswich Tadanari vs. Derby Plus any number of Lambert and Bale free kicks. Walcott v Luton was a beauty too
Lighthouse Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 Walcott v Luton was a beauty too Good shout. Think Guly scored a corker against Blackpool in the cup once. Vergini has to be up there for the Lolz I think.
angelman Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 I wouldn't go as far to say that it annoys me, but it is somewhat irksome that someone with obvious talent and the world at his feet just pîsses it away with a really crap attitude.
um pahars Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 It was a mistake and Pochettino must surely take most of the blame as he had worked with him before and no doubt pushed the deal through ! I can't believe for a moment that he was a 'black box' purchase ! He was most certainly not a black box signing, this one was 100% down to Cortese.
VectisSaint Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 He was most certainly not a black box signing, this one was 100% down to Cortese. FFS. Some people really need.to ****ing grow up and stop believing the crap that is spouted by Turkish. If it was anything it was a Poch signimg, but in the end it was just as much a Les Reed signing as any other. Some times the Board got it wrong, though to be fair Osvaldo was still a very good player, just that he was a complete nutjob. Hooefully one day some.people will open their eyes and see that Uncke Les is just as capable of cocking.up.
Dalek2003 Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 FFS. Some people really need.to ****ing grow up and stop believing the crap that is spouted by Turkish. If it was anything it was a Poch signimg, but in the end it was just as much a Les Reed signing as any other. Some times the Board got it wrong, though to be fair Osvaldo was still a very good player, just that he was a complete nutjob. Hooefully one day some.people will open their eyes and see that Uncke Les is just as capable of cocking.up. As we are about to see.
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 September, 2016 Posted 2 September, 2016 FFS. Some people really need.to ****ing grow up and stop believing the crap that is spouted by Turkish. If it was anything it was a Poch signimg, but in the end it was just as much a Les Reed signing as any other. Some times the Board got it wrong, though to be fair Osvaldo was still a very good player, just that he was a complete nutjob. Hooefully one day some.people will open their eyes and see that Uncke Les is just as capable of cocking.up. Well somebody must have wanted him desperately.
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