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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

He played in 29 Premier League games for a very good Bournemouth team last season. Do you think he washed away with the tide?

Given he played 29 games I’d be surprised to see him drop down a league. Do wba have cash to splash now then?!

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Posted
12 minutes ago, coalman said:

He was on a par with the wingers we had (who didn't wind up doing much in our Premier League campaign) so you can't say he was awful in terms of contributions but he wasn't standout either.

I do remember him (and Rothwell) giving the ball away a lot though.

Joe Rothwell was an interesting one.

A couple of cracking goals but not much else to write home about.

Is he back at Bournemouth after a seasons long loan at Leeds?

Posted
1 hour ago, coalman said:

Picking a single stat doesn't tell the whole story.
 

From https://fbref.com/en/squads/33c895d4/2023-2024/Southampton-Stats - he got 5 assists and 2 goals from 895 minutes.

Compare to Sam Edozie (6 goals and 3 assists from 1364 minutes) or Ryan Fraser (6 goals and 2 assists from 1633 minutes) which seems comparable to those two players. Then compare to Sulemana (0 goals and 3 assists from 950 minutes) and you have to pray that Atalanta's medical team are busy rubber stamping his transfer right now.

And which one of those players would anyone like to see lining up for saints in the premier league in 14months time? 😄😄

Posted
11 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

So two players (who the forum has pretty much all agreed are not good enough for the premier league) doing better than him for us that season, is now an argument that he wouldn't have then been washed away with the rest of the team in the premier league is it? He wasn't an exceptional / stand out player for us, we largely stood still last summer as it is, we'd have certainly stood still had we signed brooks, and the past season was embarrassingly poor - we need to be signing players who at least have the potential to be starting players in midtable prem squads -and also, who would he have replaced in the starting 11? Fernandes? Dibling?

Less than 1000minues for a mid table bournemouth side is just further evidence that we need to do better than him. The naysayers are correct on this one.

I merely responded to the claim he was crap, I didn't respond to the comment he would have produced for us last season.

16 minutes ago, coalman said:

He was on a par with the wingers we had (who didn't wind up doing much in our Premier League campaign) so you can't say he was awful in terms of contributions but he wasn't standout either.

I do remember him (and Rothwell) giving the ball away a lot though.

Well, like I said, he played quite a bit less than all of them apart from Sulemana who he completely out performed. So yes, I think his contribution stands out.

Posted
1 hour ago, Zorba said:

He was nowhere near AA that season and SA was knackered. I could have got 6 assists in that league with AA in front of me.

...bet you couldn't score the blinder he got at ST Andrews though.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, EBS1980 said:

Given he played 29 games I’d be surprised to see him drop down a league. Do wba have cash to splash now then?!

Seemed a very valuable squad player for them last season, but Bournemouth won't stand still. He's only got a year left of his contract, so moving him on now might make sense, but I can't imagine WBA have the budget to pay him PL wages this season (which they'd need to do)

 

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Posted
54 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Joe Rothwell was an interesting one.

A couple of cracking goals but not much else to write home about.

Is he back at Bournemouth after a seasons long loan at Leeds?

yes. Signed a four year deal in 2022. We are not the only side that gives players long contracts and then grows to regret it.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Badger said:

Anyone else nervous of him getting out of the vehicle ? Go easy on those ankles Kameldeen.

Any update on how this went, did he navigate the car park lines without incident and sail through the medical 🤞

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Any update on how this went, did he navigate the car park lines without incident and sail through the medical 🤞

He showed incredible pace and skill getting out of the car, wriggling past the front desk and into the doctor's office. Then fell over as he was about to get on the stretcher trying to follow his training and check back to maintain possession.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Obafemi doesn’t stay anywhere long. Ralph and Martin at Swansea dug him out for lifestyle and attitude.

Doucore is exactly what we need in midfield. Surprised Everton have let him go. We should also sign Shelvey so he cant play against us

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Chris Mepham

Would be a decent signing but if there's one position we don't need signings for it's centre back unless we sell THB, Bednarek and maybe wood. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Kenilworthy59 said:

Doucore is exactly what we need in midfield. Surprised Everton have let him go. We should also sign Shelvey so he cant play against us

Doucore is what we need, but perhaps when he was a few years younger. Id still like him here but I suggest his wages are massive. Everton do pay big wages

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Posted
16 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Wonder if someone else has come in for him? 
 

 

They seem to think it's Birmingham City

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, BERMUDASAINT said:

Released/out of contract players for July 1 from many leagues.

See ex SFC players obafemi,foster, ings, and redmond on the list.

 

://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cgjgg419yggo

 

2 hours ago, Kenilworthy59 said:

Doucore is exactly what we need in midfield. Surprised Everton have let him go. We should also sign Shelvey so he cant play against us

 

Agreed but wages means no (Doucore) - Shelvey can do one

 

Always liked Josh Brownhill from Burnley

 

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Areas I personally think we should improve. 

Def Mid: 

We need to sign a destroyer type midfielder, someone in the mould of Oriol Romeu. A no-nonsense, tough tackling leader with excellent fitness, strength,height and pace. Bonus if they already have Premier league experience.  Give us more presence and strength in midfield, Likes of Smallbone are okay championship options but are too lightweight. 

Antonín Barák - Serie A experience, Czech international 6 foot height. 

Winger: 

With end product whether it's goals or assists.  

Jesurun Rak-Saki 

Direct, agile, goal threat from wide areas. Young with Premier league experience ( Loan ) 

Tommy Conway

Play as a striker or out wide, has proven record of goals at championship young room to improve  

Centre back: If bednarek or Bellis leave.

Chris Mepham, Good height 6.3 premier league experienced. 

Realistic signing. 

Attacking Midfielder: 

Ambitious - Matt O'Riley

Lewis O'brien. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted
10 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Areas I personally think we should improve. 

Def Mid: 

We need to sign a destroyer type midfielder, someone in the mould of Oriol Romeu. A no-nonsense, tough tackling leader with excellent fitness, strength,height and pace. Bonus if they already have Premier league experience.  Give us more presence and strength in midfield, Likes of Smallbone are okay championship options but are too lightweight. 

Antonín Barák - Serie A experience, Czech international 6 foot height. 

Winger: 

With end product whether it's goals or assists.  

Jesurun Rak-Saki 

Direct, agile, goal threat from wide areas. Young with Premier league experience ( Loan ) 

Tommy Conway

Play as a striker or out wide, has proven record of goals at championship young room to improve  

Centre back: If bednarek or Bellis leave.

Chris Mepham, Good height 6.3 premier league experienced. 

Realistic signing. 

Attacking Midfielder: 

Ambitious - Matt O'Riley

Lewis O'brien. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Couldn't persuade him to come here whilst in the Premier League, not sure why anyone thinks we'd be able to in a league lower. 

Posted (edited)
36 minutes ago, Kenilworthy59 said:

The word locally is that Brooks failed the medical

Pefect for us then, we do like a limp

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Posted

I have figured out our new transfer strategy.....

....its to sign players with names similar to the names of existing or old players!

So far its:

Quashie = Quarshie

and going forwards its :

Downes = Downes

O'Brien Whitmarsh = O'Brien

who else is out there!?

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Kenilworthy59 said:

The word locally is that Brooks failed the medical

Makes more sense. The two clubs will have already agreed any deal before allowing him to do a medical. So it would be unlikely that the "deal" breaks down at that point unless there is an issue with the medical. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Chris Mepham

Why aren't Sunderland signing him? Do they feel he is not good enough for the Prem?

Posted
14 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

Really hoping we are getting Brooks 😊

He was very average with us in the Championship and went missing a lot. In addition to that he has had quite a few injury issues outside of the big C.

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Just now, Farmer Saint said:

He was very average with us in the Championship and went missing a lot. In addition to that he has had quite a few injury issues outside of the big C.

I didn't think he was "very average". I thought he looked very classy and was creative. Putting some world class players aside, pretty much all wingers/flair players have games where they don't have an impact.

He's only missed a couple of games in the last two years through injury. 

IMO we desperately need to add some more attacking threat, creativity and flair. If not Brooks, then someone else. Looking forward to learn who the attacking midfielder is we are targetting. 

 

 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

He was very average with us in the Championship and went missing a lot. In addition to that he has had quite a few injury issues outside of the big C.

I think that a bit unfair, all wingers  have games which they cannot affect and, he was playing his way back to fitness after a terrible illness. I thought he got stronger as the season went on. By all accounts he was very good for Bournemouth when he played last season. I'd have him back in a heartbeat. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Chez said:

I didn't think he was "very average". I thought he looked very classy and was creative. Putting some world class players aside, pretty much all wingers/flair players have games where they don't have an impact.

He's only missed a couple of games in the last two years through injury. 

IMO we desperately need to add some more attacking threat, creativity and flair. If not Brooks, then someone else. Looking forward to learn who the attacking midfielder is we are targetting. 

 

 

I'm with you, I think Brooks is a very classy player. Technically gifted, similar in ways to Dibling in his playing style. Not particularly quick, but a good brain and close control.

I felt we should have got more out of him when we had him, I saw it as a huge coup when we got him on loan. I didn't think our rigid retain the ball approach helped him, he's more of a maverick - much in the same way as Charly was, you need to let them express themselves and not tie them int a rigid ''keep the ball at all costs, and pass backwards'' approach.

Whoever gets him in the Championship will undeniably be getting one of the most technically gifted players in the league.

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Posted
43 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

He was very average with us in the Championship and went missing a lot. In addition to that he has had quite a few injury issues outside of the big C.

In half a season he got more assists than anyone else in the side apart from the two Armstrongs. Missing. 

Posted
17 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

In half a season he got more assists than anyone else in the side apart from the two Armstrongs. Missing. 

You can still go missing in games and provide assists.....

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Don't know about the reliability of the original source, but the fact that the one player pictured isn't a Saints player any more doesn't fill me with confidence.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Ramsdale to Leeds seems (sort of) sensible.  Certainly from their perspective. 

Another relegation for ramsdale though. He deserves better 

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