Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[gio1saints]

Further on comparing Leeds to Saints. 
When Leeds failed to get promoted last season they unloaded FIVE of their better players :  Crysencio Summerville, Georginio Rutter, Archie Gray, Jack Harrison and Luis Sinisterra( who had been on loan) 
I think most of those five would start at Saints this season! Thing that’s probably surprising is they kept the Manager. I think that’s a mistake. 

So although relegation is NOT same as failure to get promotion, to equal Leeds work in outsourcing at least three more first team starters need to leave beyond KS and PO..

Edited Saturday at 08:23 by gio1saints

[Saint NL]

29 minutes ago, Chez said:

It will be interesting to see how much they and Sunderland spend in total this summer and on how many players.

Looks like Sunderland might be splashing the cash. 

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/13389620/sunderland-transfer-news-habib-diarra-30m-club-record-deal-agreed-for-senegal-midfielder

 

[beatlesaint]

34 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Looks like Sunderland might be splashing the cash. 

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/13389620/sunderland-transfer-news-habib-diarra-30m-club-record-deal-agreed-for-senegal-midfielder

 

To stand any chance they have to spend huge, they are us 12 months on basically.

[redkeith]

3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

To stand any chance they have to spend huge, they are us 12 months on basically.

Our team that got religated by October , minus Fernandes and Ramsdale, beat them 3 times last season when the Leeds team had Gray, Rutter and Summerville in it.  

That is 3 massive players that they have to replace just to stay at the level  of the team we beat.  I think Harrison is coming back from his loan, but the have a major overhaul required. Piroe is Adam Armstrong  without the work rate. 

[gio1saints]

1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

Looks like Sunderland might be splashing the cash. 

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11695/13389620/sunderland-transfer-news-habib-diarra-30m-club-record-deal-agreed-for-senegal-midfielder

 

Wow. Was like that £27m they got for Bellingham was burning a hole in their pocket! Plus £20m on the guy from Roma. 
We spent (I think )£18m on Flynn as our marquee EPL signing…X2. And £20m on THB. Interesting. Do they have any more money left ? because if that’s it they are certainly doomed to finish bottom before a ball is even kicked imo. 

[beatlesaint]

1 hour ago, redkeith said:

Our team that got religated by October , minus Fernandes and Ramsdale, beat them 3 times last season when the Leeds team had Gray, Rutter and Summerville in it.  

That is 3 massive players that they have to replace just to stay at the level  of the team we beat.  I think Harrison is coming back from his loan, but the have a major overhaul required. Piroe is Adam Armstrong  without the work rate. 

I was talking about Sunderland as per the link, not Leeds

[woodsaint1]

2 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

To stand any chance they have to spend huge, they are us 12 months on basically.

We were a better team than Sunderland and they've already lost their best player. It could be bad for them if they dont change half their team

[Master Bates]

Bye bye again Larios 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye again Larios 

 

Bazunu loaned out too on a similarity subsidised basis I suspect once Ramsdale future certain. Spors and Still not messing about.

Edited Saturday at 13:28 by Gloucester Saint

[Pamplemousse]

15 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye again Larios 

 

They just got promoted to La Liga 2 so more or less same standard as the Championship, equivalent of us loaning him out to Wrexham or Charlton

[Lighthouse]

32 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Bazunu loaned out too on a similarity subsidised basis I suspect once Ramsdale future certain. Spors and Still not messing about.

Jesus, give it a rest.

[CampionSaint]

I wouldn't be surprised is Ramsdale went out on loan with a £3m ish loan fee with wages to one of the promoted sides.  It would be a perfect solution if he returned and we got promoted, as he appears to love being at Saints apart from the fact next year if he's not in the prem it will hamper his World Cup chances !  Fernandez seems happy at Saints and I think could be persuaded to stay another season.  I suspect we'll be after what we got for Lavia (£50m+) and there aren't many teams that will pay that much for someone who's just proven themselves over 1 season.  Similarly I don't think Dibling will go as it's too much of a risk for potential buyers.  We won't want to sell him cheap and prem teams won't want to pay big money for someone who's yet to prove themselves.  I think we can get enough income (£60m plus) from Sulemana, Tall Paul, Amo-Ameyaw, Bednarek, THB, Armstrong, Aribo.  What with getting big earners off the wage bill and shrink the size of squad I think thing could be looking postive for the new season !

[spyinthesky]

17 minutes ago, CampionSaint said:

I wouldn't be surprised is Ramsdale went out on loan with a £3m ish loan fee with wages to one of the promoted sides.  It would be a perfect solution if he returned and we got promoted, as he appears to love being at Saints apart from the fact next year if he's not in the prem it will hamper his World Cup chances !  Fernandez seems happy at Saints and I think could be persuaded to stay another season.  I suspect we'll be after what we got for Lavia (£50m+) and there aren't many teams that will pay that much for someone who's just proven themselves over 1 season.  Similarly I don't think Dibling will go as it's too much of a risk for potential buyers.  We won't want to sell him cheap and prem teams won't want to pay big money for someone who's yet to prove themselves.  I think we can get enough income (£60m plus) from Sulemana, Tall Paul, Amo-Ameyaw, Bednarek, THB, Armstrong, Aribo.  What with getting big earners off the wage bill and shrink the size of squad I think thing could be looking postive for the new season !

Very quiet on Bella Kotcha's future.
Surely he must be worth the odd Euro or two?

[Saint86]

44 minutes ago, CampionSaint said:

I wouldn't be surprised is Ramsdale went out on loan with a £3m ish loan fee with wages to one of the promoted sides.  It would be a perfect solution if he returned and we got promoted, as he appears to love being at Saints apart from the fact next year if he's not in the prem it will hamper his World Cup chances !  Fernandez seems happy at Saints and I think could be persuaded to stay another season.  I suspect we'll be after what we got for Lavia (£50m+) and there aren't many teams that will pay that much for someone who's just proven themselves over 1 season.  Similarly I don't think Dibling will go as it's too much of a risk for potential buyers.  We won't want to sell him cheap and prem teams won't want to pay big money for someone who's yet to prove themselves.  I think we can get enough income (£60m plus) from Sulemana, Tall Paul, Amo-Ameyaw, Bednarek, THB, Armstrong, Aribo.  What with getting big earners off the wage bill and shrink the size of squad I think thing could be looking postive for the new season !

The perfect solution is that Ramsdale stays here this season.

If we get rid of him on loan, we will be similarly tied to finding a loan keeper to come in and cover him. Equally, we'll find it harder to attract keepers if they know they'll be playing second fiddle to Ramsdale next season.

He either stays or leaves imo - and a decision needs to be made before too long or we just tell him he's staying regardless.

[davefizzy14]

5 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

The perfect solution is that Ramsdale stays here this season.

If we get rid of him on loan, we will be similarly tied to finding a loan keeper to come in and cover him. Equally, we'll find it harder to attract keepers if they know they'll be playing second fiddle to Ramsdale next season.

He either stays or leaves imo - and a decision needs to be made before too long or we just tell him he's staying regardless.

I really hope Ramsdale stays 😊

[Eric The Red]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

They just got promoted to La Liga 2 so more or less same standard as the Championship, equivalent of us loaning him out to Wrexham or Charlton

Think La Liga 2 is on average worse than Championship but still a good move as he needs to play more regularly than he's likely to staying at Saints.

[Wurzel]

55 minutes ago, CampionSaint said:

I wouldn't be surprised is Ramsdale went out on loan with a £3m ish loan fee with wages to one of the promoted sides.  It would be a perfect solution if he returned and we got promoted, as he appears to love being at Saints apart from the fact next year if he's not in the prem it will hamper his World Cup chances !  Fernandez seems happy at Saints and I think could be persuaded to stay another season.  I suspect we'll be after what we got for Lavia (£50m+) and there aren't many teams that will pay that much for someone who's just proven themselves over 1 season.  Similarly I don't think Dibling will go as it's too much of a risk for potential buyers.  We won't want to sell him cheap and prem teams won't want to pay big money for someone who's yet to prove themselves.  I think we can get enough income (£60m plus) from Sulemana, Tall Paul, Amo-Ameyaw, Bednarek, THB, Armstrong, Aribo.  What with getting big earners off the wage bill and shrink the size of squad I think thing could be looking postive for the new season !

Didn't Trafford get into recent England squads whilst playing in the Championship  with Burnley?

[Saint NL]

52 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Very quiet on Bella Kotcha's future.
Surely he must be worth the odd Euro or two?

Let's meet in the middle and call it €1.50

[waylander]

16 minutes ago, Wurzel said:

Didn't Trafford get into recent England squads whilst playing in the Championship  with Burnley?

Wasn't that under Carsley after a long run as the U21s keeper?

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, spyinthesky said:

Very quiet on Bella Kotcha's future.
Surely he must be worth the odd Euro or two?

The mystery of last summers failed medical makes me wonder if we'll ever get rid of him or if he'll just hang around the place until his contract expires 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c3d9k9nvn4go

[Wurzel]

11 minutes ago, waylander said:

Wasn't that under Carsley after a long run as the U21s keeper?

Possibly but he's been in all 6 squads since despite Ramsdale playing in the PL

[Saint Since '51]

2 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye again Larios 

 

Larios is best pals with Fernandes. They are neighbours. Hope Larios going off to Spain doesn't spook him into a move.

 

[westmidlandsaint]

4 minutes ago, Saint Since '51 said:

Larios is best pals with Fernandes. They are neighbours. Hope Larios going off to Spain doesn't spook him into a move.

 

Maybe we should employ a tactic of old and buy a Portuguese mate for him as we did with Imants Bleidelis for Pahars and Kleber Chala for Delgado 

[Football Special]

14 minutes ago, Saint Since '51 said:

Larios is best pals with Fernandes. They are neighbours. Hope Larios going off to Spain doesn't spook him into a move.

 

Often out food shopping in ocean village together,  bros ❤️ 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Jesus, give it a rest.

Had typed a response but can’t be bothered anymore. More fun and actual purpose in drinking beer in my garden.

Edited Saturday at 17:10 by Gloucester Saint

[AlexLaw76]

3 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye again Larios 

 

Completely pointless signing 

[CampionSaint]

1 hour ago, Wurzel said:

Didn't Trafford get into recent England squads whilst playing in the Championship  with Burnley?

Agree, though I'm not sure Ramsdale thinks of it that way from what's been reported.

[Matthew Le God]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Completely pointless signing 

We did not know when we signed him he'd be injured in the way he was. After so long without playing a loan makes sense. He needs regular gametime. Not playing second or third fiddle for us.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

We did not know when we signed him he'd be injured in the way he was. After so long without playing a loan makes sense. He needs regular gametime. Not playing second or third fiddle for us.

Completely pointless signing 

[egg]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

We did not know when we signed him he'd be injured in the way he was. After so long without playing a loan makes sense. He needs regular gametime. Not playing second or third fiddle for us.

We knew when we signed him that he was about 2 foot tall and couldn't tackle. If he stayed injury free, he'd have needed monumental development to make it as a PL left back. Jake Vokins had more promise, and look where he's ended up. 

Absolutely scandalous signing. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

8 hours ago, gio1saints said:

It’s interesting that Leeds look likely to break their transfer record on a new striker. Muniz has a £35m price tag!  This, despite having a record goal scorer and assists player ( Piroe) purchased for a high fee also I might add (£12m) from the championship promotion season in their squad already. 
It’s almost as if they saw what we did last year and realise they need better., much better. Whether Muniz is the answer is a moot point but their apparent desire to upgrade certainly contrasts starkly with our poor/absent decision making and vision in same time last year. 
 

NB. piroe is quoted as an £18m value player on transfermkt. So if anyone thinks we are bidding for him this year I’d be surprised. And why would he forego chance to play EPL for yet another year in the champs anyway even if we did/could? 

As with most things, there's a fair bit going on. It looked as though our scouting had identified the likes of Delap and O'Riley. It ended up looking like SR's usual putting their eggs in one basket, only for someone else to take it to the check out. But I don't know if scouting had lined up viable alternatives. Was the drop off to what we got because there weren't any, or that we just didn't find any, which is a bit of a fail?

Added to that is SR's player trading model. They want a squad of players on championship wages (Ramsdale being a possible exception), that then get boosted if we go up, to make them lower paid PL players. That maximises their appeal and sell on to other clubs.

So, scouting could have identified lots of players only for them not to get any further due to personal terms.

I imagine Leeds are a bit more willing to not only pay the transfer fee, but pay an attractive PL salary. We have different criteria in place to some other clubs.

 

7 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Further on comparing Leeds to Saints. 
When Leeds failed to get promoted last season they unloaded FIVE of their better players :  Crysencio Summerville, Georginio Rutter, Archie Gray, Jack Harrison and Luis Sinisterra( who had been on loan) 
I think most of those five would start at Saints this season! Thing that’s probably surprising is they kept the Manager. I think that’s a mistake. 

So although relegation is NOT same as failure to get promotion, to equal Leeds work in outsourcing at least three more first team starters need to leave beyond KS and PO..

In the season when we did go up, Leeds loaned out 19 and moved on 17. Last season, it was moving on 24 and loaning out 14. Not all first teamers, but still a massive churn of player squad.

My memory cell tells me they had a lot of first teamers that had loan options, that they took. I don't know how many they had to sell to balance the books compared to how many wanted to jump ship.

My point being that they may not have wanted to shift as many first teamers. Certainly their best ones. Martin had their number, as they played into his system, so I'd argue on how many of those that would have got into our team. I think @Farmer Saint compared the sides, with 4 of ours getting into theirs, and me with about 7.

I think SR should be strengthening the first eleven in exactly the positions they should have at the end of their first window. A DM ( because they moved on Romeo) and an Adams upgrade (Adams himself would walk back into the side). Great if we could also get a Tella replacement (something they also said they were doing) and they have said they're looking at an attacking midfielder this window too.

But the DM and forward would have given the revolving door of our managerial appointments much more of a chance.

Instead of outsourcing first teamers, we could bring others in to give us strength and depth, while moving on our current squad players.

Ramsdale, McCarthy

Bree, Welington, Sugawara, Manning

Bednarek, THB, Edwards, Quarshie (who is the new DC), Stephens, Taylor

NEW DM, Charles, Fernandes, NEW AMC, Downes

Armstrong, Edozie, NEW AM L/R, Fraser, Dibling

NEW FC, Archer, Stewart

That's 25 (with a couple of peripheral ones who could also go) with youth to fill out the rest (Bragg, Akachukwa, O'Brien-Whitmarsh, Robinson, Ballard, Sanda).

Already moved on, or about to:-
Lallana, Lumley, Payne, Gronbaek, KWP, Onuachu, Larios (loan) Sulemana. Only KWP would be a starter.

Others to Loan or Depart:-
Bazunu, Wood, Bella-Kotchap, Smallbone, Juan, Aribo, BBD

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

We did not know when we signed him he'd be injured in the way he was. After so long without playing a loan makes sense. He needs regular gametime. Not playing second or third fiddle for us.

Yes, a pointless signing.

[benjii]

Is that Portuguese cafe at Foyes Corner still there?

[egg]

35 minutes ago, benjii said:

Is that Portuguese cafe at Foyes Corner still there?

Yep. Decent it is too. Great for a bit of seafood. They had limpets last week. 

[benjii]

Just now, egg said:

Yep. Decent it is too. Great for a bit of seafood. They had limpets last week. 

Someone needs to tell Matty F!

[Saint NL]

Well done Livramento, very happy for him

[S-Clarke]

8 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye again Larios 

 

I'd say that level is probably as far as he'll ever progress, just doesn't have the physical attributes to handle the rigours of top level football.

[Patrick Bateman]

9 hours ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye again Larios 

 

Useless signing, loaned out to a much worse league. This guy will never grace the first team - clear the whole lot out.

[disconnect]

5 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Useless signing, loaned out to a much worse league. This guy will never grace the first team - clear the whole lot out.

He already did a few times (in the premier league) before he got badly injured. Shame that happened and he hasn’t worked out 

[SaintNewForest]

14 hours ago, westmidlandsaint said:

Maybe we should employ a tactic of old and buy a Portuguese mate for him as we did with Imants Bleidelis for Pahars and Kleber Chala for Delgado 

Or Romain Gasmi for Morgan Schneiderlin.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, SaintNewForest said:

Or Romain Gasmi for Morgan Schneiderlin.

IIRC Gasmi was a signing in his own right, a former wonder kid who had been highly sought after but become injury-prone and made of glass. The club thought they could turn him around in their bankrupt state but he really was a jellyfish, as demonstrated by pulling out of a tackle in halfway for Forest’s second goal and disappeared after that. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Took get the money we’ve got for Sulemana and Onuachu after their beyond disastrous spells for the club is excellent. Yes it’s a loss on what we paid, but I think everyone else was half expecting us to get a fiver, max.

I do hope we start buying some established players with a bit of muscle and fight.

[Dusic]

2 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I do hope we start buying some established players with a bit of muscle and fight.

Can we add grit for the full house?

[E_H_Saints]

Calvin L becomes a free agent tomorrow, would he be a cheap option for next season.  Surely, he would take charge in that league.  

[westmidlandsaint]

17 minutes ago, E_H_Saints said:

Calvin L becomes a free agent tomorrow, would he be a cheap option for next season.  Surely, he would take charge in that league.  

He would certainly compete for a space with Ross Stewart unfortunately it would probably be the Physio's room then again we do like signing a crocked player!!

[Gloucester Saint]

29 minutes ago, E_H_Saints said:

Calvin L becomes a free agent tomorrow, would he be a cheap option for next season.  Surely, he would take charge in that league.  

Three promoted clubs linked as expected https://www.goodisonnews.com/2025/06/29/dominic-calvert-lewins-potential-next-club-named-as-he-says-goodbye-to-everton/

[Appy]

39 minutes ago, E_H_Saints said:

Calvin L becomes a free agent tomorrow, would he be a cheap option for next season.  Surely, he would take charge in that league.  

He’s definitely not a cheap option, his wages would be silly. 

[tdmickey3]

Injury prone weird cross dresser...

No thanks 

[Gloucester Saint]

20 minutes ago, Appy said:

He’s definitely not a cheap option, his wages would be silly. 

Expensive, made of glass. Been there, done that.

[Convict Colony]

26 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Injury prone weird cross dresser...

No thanks 

this is still my fav 😄