Will Still

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, benjii said:

Did we really add quality on flanks, 10 etc.? 

The new guys don't look any better than Armstrong or Aribo.

I think it's a bit premature to say that gi en someone like Scienza has had about half a game.

[benjii]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

I think it's a bit premature to say that gi en someone like Scienza has had about half a game.

Agreed on him.

[ally_uk]

Missed the game today, wait a minute we are 19th in the league? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What the fucking hells going on lads......

[Willo of Whiteley]

I don’t normally do computer games but I’m actually looking for to FIFA coming out so I can start a new Saints career and sell Bazunu, Hardwood-Bellis, Downes, Stephens, Stewart etc.

The way forward is the Willo Way. 🤣👍🏻

It sounds shit, but honestly it can’t be any worse than what there currently is!

[SW5 SAINT]

I’m starting to think he is the managerial equivalent of Ali Dia…….!

[Pamplemousse]

I'm willing to give him a chance but he needs to find a win... somehow.

Forget the Liverpool game but Middlesbrough might not be a bad game for us. They'll come here as favourites, maybe we can sit back and try and hit them on the counter, let them have the ball.

[Wade Garrett]

33 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

After that shitshow, if I were Dragan, I might be seeing if i still had Danny Rohl’s phone number this evening. 

I don’t get the fascination with Rohl.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

He does understand football very well for a 12 year old

Don’t be posting that, SR might give him the fucking job. What’s he like on The Play Station? 

[Gloucester Saint]

59 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I don't think people could handle a Mini Turkish or Turkish Jr!

Imagine if Soggy’s grandson got a login as well?

[Patches O Houlihan]

11 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

I'm willing to give him a chance but he needs to find a win... somehow.

Forget the Liverpool game but Middlesbrough might not be a bad game for us. They'll come here as favourites, maybe we can sit back and try and hit them on the counter, let them have the ball.

Counter attacks don't work when it takes us 90 seconds to get the ball into their area having passed it backward nine times first.

[Lord Duckhunter]

[Teamsaint1]

I can’t see how Still”s plan is any different from Howard Wilkinson era 4-2-4.

in which case you need to keep it simple, have our least bad big CF ( Stewart) with AA alongside, the two “ best” wingers, the two toughest CMs, and let the back four concentrate on defending, supposing that they are up to the task, which is dubious at this stage.

I see nothing at all that suggests that WS can create a playoff team out of this expensive mess. Almost nothing looks any good.

[Maggie May]

10 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I don’t get the fascination with Rohl.

Interestingly, Charlie Austin on a recent Undr the Cosh podcast said Rohl did all the tactics and the work in training under Ralph.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

18 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

Counter attacks don't work when it takes us 90 seconds to get the ball into their area having passed it backward nine times first.

Ha, was gonna say just that. Piss around too much at the back. The defence has been awfull.

Think Quarshie got a raw deal when he played. Think there is a player in there. 

[Saint NL]

Rangers look to have got a decent win today.

Can you imagine that Will Still could be sacked before Russell Martin at Rangers? Absolutely mind blowing 😂

[Monk]

Would love to slip in to a parallel universe and see if there would be any difference if his brothers followed him into the club.

Nothing that hasn’t been said already but seriously unimpressed with him. Felt like there was an imposter syndrome when I saw the training camp video in London. 
 

 

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

He's had his chance as far as I'm concerned. I've seen absolutely nothing that makes me think that things will improve. He's had a decent amount to spend and in two games has made Azaz and Fellows unrecognisable from the players that they were last season. 
We've won 1 league game and that was incredibly lucky! We look just as bad as we did last season, which is quite some achievement given that the manager and half the team has changed. 

I have to admire Sheff Utd for acting quickly on Selles. Our lot will stick with the clown until March and then get rid of him with 6-8 games to go and put Adam Lallana in charge for the remainder of the season. 

Sport Republic has ruined the club. Constantly trying to find the smart option when we all know that it's experienced managers who know how to get you out of this league. Cooper, Dyche, Rohl, Edwards, Cleverly, all have experience at this level but we couldn't do that. We had to go for the youngest managers in Europe with zero experience in English football. 

All the talk about him being a great tactician and one of the best young coaches in Europe made me think, maybe they've got the right man this time. All I'm seeing is another Nathan Jones. A shit Russell Martin. Ivan Juric in disguise. 

Will Still, just admit that you're out of your depth and fuck off! The last thing we need as fans is another ego who claims every week that he'll turn it around but never does. 

[Wade Garrett]

37 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Interestingly, Charlie Austin on a recent Undr the Cosh podcast said Rohl did all the tactics and the work in training under Ralph.

Charlie hates Ralph, so I wouldn’t take that as gospel.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

Charlie hates Ralph, so I wouldn’t take that as gospel.

So does ings

so does Bertrand

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

36 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Interestingly, Charlie Austin on a recent Undr the Cosh podcast said Rohl did all the tactics and the work in training under Ralph.

That's been well documented for a while. You could definitely see the difference once Rohl left. 

I don't understand the reluctance in just paying for Rohl or any other experienced manager. We have money so why did we go to the bargain basement and get Still? Did we learn nothing from the Nathan Jones fiasco?

 

[Wade Garrett]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

So does ings

so does Bertrand

So do I.  

[saintant]

I have to admit I was quite excited and hopeful when we appointed Will Still. Here was a young manager with a totally different career path than the norm and somebody who appeared to have a refreshing new opinion on how the game should be played and who had done well at his previous clubs. So far it's been a complete disappointment. Along with others I do not have a clue what our formation is or what we are trying to do as there just seems no pattern or shape to our play. We seem to get worse rather than better and I'm not sure where he goes from here or whether he has the slightest clue how to improve the shit show we are watching.

[Wade Garrett]

Just now, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

That's been well documented for a while. You could definitely see the difference once Rohl left. 

I don't understand the reluctance in just paying for Rohl or any other experienced manager. We have money so why did we go to the bargain basement and get Still? Did we learn nothing from the Nathan Jones fiasco?

 

No.  

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

So are we thinking Will Still is the “ginger Juric”?

[AlexLaw76]

We have been wide open all season. The manager does have a fucking clue how to do it in this league. He is a terrible tactician, who simply throws attackers on in the final 3rd of the game.

We are getting schooled by shithouse strikers, against teams that cost about the same as Azaz alone to assemble.

Fucking woeful manager, and we should know we have seen plenty. 
 

the season can easily be salvaged if we make a change soonest and get someone who knows what they are doing.

Edited 15 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Sorry you and your son didn’t have a better experience today - hardly encouraging for our younger fans - but at least the fans gave them both barrels. In the real world if you don’t put the work rate and organisation in, customers and suppliers let you know, so no reason the wallflowers should escape. 

Agree, these guys are paid absolute fortunes and need to start earning their money.

[Daft Kerplunk]

There seem to be quite a few comments on here about Will Still buying the players.  That's not how football works in 2025 lads; a committee makes the decision and that'll include some tech nerds who've probably never stepped on grass with a ball nearby but they sure know data sets.  Not saying he's setting the world alight but the players at his disposal have been signed for him to work with, not that he has chosen the players himself to coach.  

[aintforever]

The thing is the Saints job this season was a fucking hard job, we needed a manager to walk in and make big decisions straight away. They needed to deal with the scar tissue from last season, get rid of the players not up for the fight and know straight away who to bring in to create a team capable of promotion. I don’t get how anyone would expect someone with Still’s limited experience to be able to do that.

Edited 14 hours ago by aintforever

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

I don’t get the fascination with Rohl.

There isnt one, but likely more competent than Still in this league at this point.

[CB Fry]

9 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

There seem to be quite a few comments on here about Will Still buying the players.  That's not how football works in 2025 lads; a committee makes the decision and that'll include some tech nerds who've probably never stepped on grass with a ball nearby but they sure know data sets.  Not saying he's setting the world alight but the players at his disposal have been signed for him to work with, not that he has chosen the players himself to coach.  

I'm not sure there's even one player that is obviously a Will Still picked player.

Nathan Jones was there only for a few weeks but even he still managed to buy James Bree. I am not sure who Still's picks are, his Telfer/Williams, his Downes/Manning etc etc etc.

[Daft Kerplunk]

4 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I'm not sure there's even one player that is obviously a Will Still picked player.

Nathan Jones was there only for a few weeks but even he still managed to buy James Bree. I am not sure who Still's picks are, his Telfer/Williams, his Downes/Manning etc etc etc.

He's young so probably doesn't have one yet but I can't imagine he saw Downs and thought, yes, that's the player for me to make a difference.  Spors, go get him for me.  Spors, the Barclays IT guy and Rasmus will stay in good jobs whilst the front man gets the chop for not being able to get a decent tune out of the bin fire he's been given.  

[Green]

33 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

That's been well documented for a while. You could definitely see the difference once Rohl left. 

I don't understand the reluctance in just paying for Rohl or any other experienced manager. We have money so why did we go to the bargain basement and get Still? Did we learn nothing from the Nathan Jones fiasco?

 

One being that we went to the top of the Premier League. 

[Wade Garrett]

23 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

There isnt one, but likely more competent than Still in this league at this point.

True, but hardly a ringing endorsement.

[LegalEagle]

Calm down boys. They’re not going to get rid before Christmas. There are a lot of new players in and he will need time. The biggest concern for me right now is that I cannot see what style of football he is trying to play. In other words he doesn’t seem to have an identity. One thing he needs to do immediately is play Arma in the team. He has a very good track record of getting goals in this league. We don’t have anyone else who does who is fit and able. Alex in for Baz as well and I think we will turn this around. 

[SaintNewForest]

16 minutes ago, Green said:

One being that we went to the top of the Premier League. 

This whole 'Rohl was the brains behind Ralph' myth gets me every time. Absolute load of hogwash. 

[SaintsLoyal]

Is WIll still lost without at least one of his brothers alongside him ?  

[Badger]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

I have to admit I was quite excited and hopeful when we appointed Will Still. Here was a young manager with a totally different career path than the norm and somebody who appeared to have a refreshing new opinion on how the game should be played and who had done well at his previous clubs. So far it's been a complete disappointment. Along with others I do not have a clue what our formation is or what we are trying to do as there just seems no pattern or shape to our play. We seem to get worse rather than better and I'm not sure where he goes from here or whether he has the slightest clue how to improve the shit show we are watching.

This is the sort of bollocks that must have entered Spors and co thinking in their recruitment. 

[Badger]

41 minutes ago, Green said:

One being that we went to the top of the Premier League. 

Wasn’t that two or three seasons later ? 

[Badger]

53 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I'm not sure there's even one player that is obviously a Will Still picked player.

Nathan Jones was there only for a few weeks but even he still managed to buy James Bree. I am not sure who Still's picks are, his Telfer/Williams, his Downes/Manning etc etc etc.

The recruitment is one area where you can defend Still on, in that players are recruited by others and he has to work with what he’s given. Same for Ralph, and to a lesser degree Lego although he obviously had an input witn signing his chums.

Having said that, Still should be getting a lot  more from the amount we’ve spent, and players at his disposal. 

[Gloucester Saint]

55 minutes ago, LegalEagle said:

Calm down boys. They’re not going to get rid before Christmas. 

League 1 here we come (again).

[Patches O Houlihan]

56 minutes ago, LegalEagle said:

Calm down boys. They’re not going to get rid before Christmas. There are a lot of new players in and he will need time. The biggest concern for me right now is that I cannot see what style of football he is trying to play. In other words he doesn’t seem to have an identity. One thing he needs to do immediately is play Arma in the team. He has a very good track record of getting goals in this league. We don’t have anyone else who does who is fit and able. Alex in for Baz as well and I think we will turn this around. 

The issue here is that Arma is only really any good playing from inside right, and our marquee signing was Fellows who also plays on the right. There'll be pressure from upstairs to keep starting Fellows.

Edited 13 hours ago by Patches O Houlihan
stupid spellcheck

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

The issue here is that Arma is only really any good playing from inside right, and our marquee signing was Fellows who also plays on the right. There'll be pressure from upstairs to keep starting Fellows.

The pressure from upstairs and the obsessions over SR ‘projects’ is at the heart of why the club is failing. 2014/15 and 2015/16 were so enjoyable in part because Ronald basically told Les to fuck off when he stuck his nose in. WGS tolerated with Lowe up to a point but Rupert knew the boundaries unlike the other managers. Cortese knew the boundaries with Poch.

Appy is right that we couldn’t afford Dyche now but it’s the type of no-bullshit manager needed to detoxify the whole club and keep SR at arms length so recruitment and football operations are left to the experts. Ankerson, Spors and Solak being told to keep their nose out and stump up when needed would help no end.

Edited 13 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Appy]

1 hour ago, SaintNewForest said:

This whole 'Rohl was the brains behind Ralph' myth gets me every time. Absolute load of hogwash. 

Yep, he was there six months at most, we had our best spells when Rohl was long gone. 

[Saint86]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

I thought he’d be good but that was absolutely awful

first time I’ve seen us live for a while and it was clueless. No movement up whatsoever up front with players just stood there not sure what to do, slow crap sideways passing or balls lumped forward cluelessly. 
 

I don’t want to single anyone out as they were all so crap but who on Earth is reasonable for Downs? He was absolutely dreadful.

the only bright spark for me was Azaz at least tried to make this happen but there was no movement, no one creating space, no one offering anything 

Hull were crap but still beat us easily. 3 goals conceded from high balls into the box 

Don’t often see managers turn this around, I like the guy but that was terrible. Even the saints fans were singing “we’re fucking shit” At the end 

I thought fellows, azaz, and scienza all looked decent, charles as well.

We look like a complete bunch of strangers.

Our back 4 were abysmal.

Crucially i fear, the fanbase is turning on him.

Edited 13 hours ago by Saint86

[Charlie Wayman]

2 hours ago, Saint NL said:

Rangers look to have got a decent win today.

Can you imagine that Will Still could be sacked before Russell Martin at Rangers? Absolutely mind blowing 😂

Hope so

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Saint86 said:

I thought fellows, azaz, and scienza all looked decend, charles as well. Our back 4 were abysmal.

Mads has sunk to their level. Still’s replacement needs to just tell him to play like he did for Brentford when they went up and to ignore the other three twats. 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

I don't understand the reluctance in just paying for Rohl or any other experienced manager. We have money so why did we go to the bargain basement and get Still? Did we learn nothing from the Nathan Jones fiasco?

 

When you think of how much we spend on players, specifically gambling on Quarshie and Downes it seems like extremely false economy not paying for a manager (whether that be Rohl or anyone else).

Bizarrely though we did have to pay compensation for Jones. 

[lambtiss]

2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

I don’t get the fascination with Rohl.

He kept a shit team with dysfunctional owners in the Championship last season and was in with a shout of reaching the playoffs.

Sounds like ideal experience, then.

[Toussaint]

3 hours ago, ally_uk said:

Missed the game today,

I envy you, I’m still on the coach !

Edited 12 hours ago by Toussaint

[Toussaint]

2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

So do I.  

#me too