AlexLaw76 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Saint_clark said: I don't know, but he deserves to be given a chance. I'm sick of modern football and managers being axed after a handful of games. How long do you give him? why does it matter if a manager who is not good enough is axed early on? 2
Saint_clark Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: How long do you give him? why does it matter if a manager who is not good enough is axed early on? I'd give him half the season at least. I don't believe he's not good enough, as I've said there are improvements being made. We bring someone else in and we start the process all over again, and presumably they only get 10 games as well. 3
AlexLaw76 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I'd give him half the season at least. I don't believe he's not good enough, as I've said there are improvements being made. We bring someone else in and we start the process all over again, and presumably they only get 10 games as well. There are little improvements being made when you compare the Wrexham game. not nothing, but little. Remain wide open in the middle of the park, not really testing of the opposition keeper and horrible when faced against a big lump. getting excited (as you did) over dominating Swansea was ridiculous. As will getting excited when we beat Sheffield Wednesday. we ain’t going up under this manager and at best, we may threaten the playoffs. But half a season? Let’s see where we are come end of Dec. Wherever it is, I am sure plenty will justify another half season of this mess. Edited 6 hours ago by AlexLaw76 1
Colinjb Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I don't know, but he deserves to be given a chance. I'm sick of modern football and managers being axed after a handful of games. This for me. I am sick to the back teeth with how we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot but I am seeing improvement in aspects of our play. We are a finisher shy of being good and we've not had a reliable chap to do that since Ings. I say stick. Edited 6 hours ago by Colinjb 5
danjosaint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Sounds like he's being influenced by 'noise' from outside. He's the manager, he decides the tactics and picks the team. Doesn't sound like he really knows what he's supposed to be doing which is concerning. And didn't someone up top come out and say the data showed 3/5 is more effective
macca155 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago If we keep on sacking managers, we'll end up like Watford. I doubt there is a messiah just waiting to be appointed. I can't think of anyone. It would be just another rinse and repeat. He has to be given a chance to turn the corner, if he is capable of it. The next 4 games are an ideal opportunity. Fail that test and there will be a drama. 1
Turkish Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago If we sack Will Still before we win another game we would have had more managers than wins since the start of 2024/25 season for that incredible achievement alone I think he should be fired immediately 6
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 43 minutes ago, macca155 said: If we keep on sacking managers, we'll end up like Watford. I doubt there is a messiah just waiting to be appointed. I can't think of anyone. It would be just another rinse and repeat. He has to be given a chance to turn the corner, if he is capable of it. The next 4 games are an ideal opportunity. Fail that test and there will be a drama. Watford are currently six places above us in the League. Just saying. 1
RedArmy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 21/10/2025 at 22:58, saintant said: Now go through our squad and list the big, powerful athletes that every decent side must have in abundance from Brentford to Liverpool. Look through their squads and then compare them to our physically weak players. We are still getting outfought all over the pitch and not winning our individual duels or battles. Last night was a classic example - Brentford totally overpowered West Ham and our two ex players were withdrawn at half time because they simply could not cope. We play some nice football but over 90 minutes we'll often get bullied out of games because we do not have anything like enough of the big strong players who make sure they win their individual battles. Name our big powerful athletes the last time we got promoted. It’s not 20 years ago any more. You can win this league with technical players, you just need someone to put the ball in the net and someone at the other end to stop it going in, which is what we are missing.
kitch Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 14 hours ago, Southner said: Full video if anyone's interested. I noticed that too. Worrying!
Saint_clark Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: There are little improvements being made when you compare the Wrexham game. not nothing, but little. Remain wide open in the middle of the park, not really testing of the opposition keeper and horrible when faced against a big lump. getting excited (as you did) over dominating Swansea was ridiculous. As will getting excited when we beat Sheffield Wednesday. we ain’t going up under this manager and at best, we may threaten the playoffs. But half a season? Let’s see where we are come end of Dec. Wherever it is, I am sure plenty will justify another half season of this mess. You're making out like I was shaking up the champagne and spraying it after the Swansea game - I wasn't. All I said is what I'm saying now, we are improving every game.
Osvaldorama Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Thing is, we can’t keep going through managers. We have to start building a cohesive team and strategy and chopping and changing won’t help. But if we lose to Blackburn, I don’t see how he can stay on. That would be a disaster. What a pickle.
SambaMaverick Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Shea Charles on Will Still: "He's coached a win at the weekend and coached a win on Tuesday, but we've just not been able to put it onto the pitch. We haven't scored our goals or kept it out. In my opinion, that's nothing to do with the manager, it's us on the pitch." What a stupid and naive way to think
Saint_clark Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Shea Charles on Will Still: "He's coached a win at the weekend and coached a win on Tuesday, but we've just not been able to put it onto the pitch. We haven't scored our goals or kept it out. In my opinion, that's nothing to do with the manager, it's us on the pitch." What a stupid and naive way to think Yeah, not passing the buck and taking responsibility for your own failure. Ridiculous! 1
Saint NL Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Shea Charles on Will Still: "He's coached a win at the weekend and coached a win on Tuesday, but we've just not been able to put it onto the pitch. We haven't scored our goals or kept it out. In my opinion, that's nothing to do with the manager, it's us on the pitch." What a stupid and naive way to think So if I asked Sydney Sweeney out on a date and she said "No, get away from me you ugly smelly freak", I actually coached myself into the date, just it was her fault she didn't accept?
DT Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago With the exact same players and Sean Dyche in charge we would be top of the league. Or Moyes. Or Lampard. Or Rohl. Or Pochettino. Or even Cooper. He is not good enough. 2
notnowcato Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 17 hours ago, beatlesaint said: If we can find a manager who can do the following then Still can go - Turn McCarthy or Bazunu into a consistently competent keeper. Turn Stephens into a decent defender Extract THB’s head from his own arse and remind him he ain’t all that like he was 2 yrs ago. Turn at least one of our mis-firing strikers into a goal machine. Stop players missing from less than a yard out. Stop players passing the ball around either backwards or square without getting anywhere. Toughen them up and put a stop to the mental fragility that is prevalent throughout the club. Stop the players making stupid mistakes. Unite the club and fanbase. Should be a simple task shouldn’t it? Stop playing well for 20 minutes then looking like 11 strangers for the rest of the game.
notnowcato Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: You're making out like I was shaking up the champagne and spraying it after the Swansea game - I wasn't. All I said is what I'm saying now, we are improving every game. Until we come under a bit of pressure during a game and it all falls apart. If we had a respected leader on the pitch I think the mentality raises. Adam Armstrong as captain…. fuck me! Good championship player but not captain material in a month of Sundays.
Baird of the land Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Honestly, hoping he'll be gone after the inevitable Blackburn loss/draw. Not ideal to be changing manager again, but when there's nothing positive about encumbent, sometimes that's what needs doing.
notnowcato Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago In Will’s defence I think he needs support. Some experienced DoF type to come in and guide him through the rest of the season, correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think that’s Spors role.
AlexLaw76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: You're making out like I was shaking up the champagne and spraying it after the Swansea game - I wasn't. All I said is what I'm saying now, we are improving every game. Not a great deal has changed from the Wrexham game 1
hypochondriac Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, notnowcato said: In Will’s defence I think he needs support. Some experienced DoF type to come in and guide him through the rest of the season, correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think that’s Spors role. Wasn't that meant to be paul trollope?
Saint NL Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Wasn't that meant to be paul trollope? That used to be a good Saturday night when I was younger 2
Turkish Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Saint NL said: That used to be a good Saturday night when I was younger Mccluskys?
Wade Garrett Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, danjosaint said: And didn't someone up top come out and say the data showed 3/5 is more effective Respectfully, fuck the data. An industry has been made in football by a load of charlatans over the effectiveness of data. Phoney wankers now have an in on a game they've never played before, and stupid owners swallow it up. Can we go back to experienced scouts going out in the pissing rain to actually watch players instead of laptop wankers vaping in a room with their fucking spreadsheets. 3
Wade Garrett Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: You're making out like I was shaking up the champagne and spraying it after the Swansea game - I wasn't. All I said is what I'm saying now, we are improving every game. Didn't see much improvement against Swansea or Bristol City. I do concede that I have been a bit harsh on Still though. Someone said earlier about giving him until the international break. That's probably fair. I don't see much changing though. Mayne Spors will take him to Juventus.
notnowcato Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Wasn't that meant to be paul trollope? He's assistant to Will isn't he?
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Give him the season. I don’t think we’ll finish higher than tenth now. We have more players out of contract in the summer and probably several who want to jump or wanted to jump ship. The purge was always going to take a year or two.
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