25/26 - Non Saints Games

[sfc4prem]

5 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Go on Palace...

Gives me hope we can get back into that Euro contender position one day...

Weirdly, if anything, Palace and Villa's successes don't fill me with hope.

They fill me with anger and frustration. We wasted our good years under Poch and Koeman. Nothing to show for it. Fuck.

[St Chalet]

To be fair, Poch pissed before we were in Europe. Puel had a campagn.

[Dr Who?]

Was saying earlier when loads of Palace fans were on our flight to Berlin that it is much easier to win the lower level European trophy than a domestic one. 
West Ham winning a couple of years back, a semi final this year between Villa and Forest with Villa winning it, and now Palace looking like winning in Europe today as it stands. There are some dross sides in Europe outside of the elite that play in the champions league, but this has only became a wider gap with so many more teams making the champions league, meaning that there are more in Europe that are very easy to beat in the European lower competitions. 

[John Boy Saint]

2 out of 2 - Well done Palace - just Arsenal to make it a full set. 

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

2 out of 2 - Well done Palace - just Arsenal to make it a full set. 

Indeed. However much people might say the premier league isn’t a good standard now 3 European finalists and two winners so far. 
 

can’t help but feel a bit jealous of clubs like Palace winning things and playing in Europe. 

[James]

44 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

Weirdly, if anything, Palace and Villa's successes don't fill me with hope.

They fill me with anger and frustration. We wasted our good years under Poch and Koeman. Nothing to show for it. Fuck.

Agreed, if anything I’m just angry that these clubs we were miles ahead of, even recently, are now so much further ahead of where we are. The team we had at the end of this year was looking like a step back towards good times but this almighty cock up will set us back.

I feel similar to when we lost to Derby in the playoffs in 2006/7, the disappointment of not getting promoted was nothing compared to the knowledge that the team we’d see the following season would be stripped of all talent. Feel similar right now. 

[Whitey Grandad]

45 minutes ago, St Chalet said:

To be fair, Poch pissed before we were in Europe. Puel had a campagn.

Puel took us out of Europe. He played no part in getting us into it.

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 hour ago, Dr Who? said:

Was saying earlier when loads of Palace fans were on our flight to Berlin that it is much easier to win the lower level European trophy than a domestic one. 
West Ham winning a couple of years back, a semi final this year between Villa and Forest with Villa winning it, and now Palace looking like winning in Europe today as it stands. There are some dross sides in Europe outside of the elite that play in the champions league, but this has only became a wider gap with so many more teams making the champions league, meaning that there are more in Europe that are very easy to beat in the European lower competitions. 

Not sure how accurate this is, but I’ve read somewhere that Burnley getting relegated has got them more money than Inter Milan winning Serie A.

Mental if true.

[skintsaint]

11 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Not sure how accurate this is, but I’ve read somewhere that Burnley getting relegated has got them more money than Inter Milan winning Serie A.

Mental if true.

 

It has FACT with a little siren so must be true.

Edited 21 hours ago by skintsaint

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Indeed. However much people might say the premier league isn’t a good standard now 3 European finalists and two winners so far. 
 

can’t help but feel a bit jealous of clubs like Palace winning things and playing in Europe. 

If it was us there would be about 30% of this forum desperate for us to play the kids/reserves and get knocked out of the Conference League at the earliest possible opportunity.

[Turkish]

8 hours ago, CB Fry said:

If it was us there would be about 30% of this forum desperate for us to play the kids/reserves and get knocked out of the Conference League at the earliest possible opportunity.

So true. We can’t have anything distracting us from our league matches so we can finish high enough to qualify for it next season 

[whelk]

13 hours ago, Turkish said:

Indeed. However much people might say the premier league isn’t a good standard now 3 European finalists and two winners so far. 
 

can’t help but feel a bit jealous of clubs like Palace winning things and playing in Europe. 

They’ve created the Conference for the mid table teams and clear PL runs deeper than any other league. PL teams should be winning it every year

Edited 9 hours ago by whelk

[whelk]

I used to be right behind any English team in Europe but far less bothered now. If Rayo had’ve beaten Palace I would have been equally pleased

Edited 9 hours ago by whelk

[Turkish]

33 minutes ago, whelk said:

I used to be right behind any English team in Europe but far less bothered now. If Rayo had’ve beaten Palace I would have been equally pleased

You can see why Palace fans are called Nigels. Loads of middle aged blokes in glasses every time the camera went on their fans 

[Teamsaint1]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

You can see why Palace fans are called Nigels. Loads of middle aged blokes in glasses every time the camera went on their fans 

Their support did look surprisingly un- diverse for a London team, compared to , say Arsenal.

[pingpong]

Uefa conference is the European equivalent of JPT.  Nice enough to win but completely irrelevant and doesn't really count for anything, it's a participation trophy.

[chuz]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

So true. We can’t have anything distracting us from our league matches so we can finish high enough to qualify for it next season 

Currently known as Newcastle syndrome....

[S-Clarke]

13 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Uefa conference is the European equivalent of JPT.  Nice enough to win but completely irrelevant and doesn't really count for anything, it's a participation trophy.

Not really, sure it's lower ranked European sides, but the accolades are similar to the Europa League. It's a major European trophy.

Palace didn't have any trophies in 2024, but they now have an FA Cup, Community Shield and a European Trophy to boot. Credit to them. And they sold some of their best players during that period too.

I'm with others in the frustration. We had Pele, Mane, Morgan, Wanyama, Toby, Fonte, Clyne, Bertrand, Tadic all in the same team at one point - sure, we finished 6th and 7th to get Europe, but our first effort was a shambles as we didn't even get to the groups, second time we didn't get out of the groups. A really poor showing all round.

And don't get me started on our FA Cup opportunities under Poch....(Sundarland away...)

Edited 8 hours ago by S-Clarke

[Turkish]

7 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Not really, sure it's lower ranked European sides, but the accolades are similar to the Europa League. It's a major European trophy.

Palace didn't have any trophies in 2024, but they now have an FA Cup, Community Shield and a European Trophy to boot. Credit to them. And they sold some of their best players during that period too.

I'm with others in the frustration. We had Pele, Mane, Morgan, Wanyama, Toby, Fonte, Clyne, Bertrand, Tadic all in the same team at one point - sure, we finished 6th and 7th to get Europe, but our first effort was a shambles as we didn't even get to the groups, second time we didn't get out of the groups. A really poor showing all round.

And don't get me started on our FA Cup opportunities under Poch....(Sundarland away...)

I don’t think I could cope with that level of irrelevance