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trousers

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After a crap start, which stronger teams than Norwich's second string would have punished us for, that was a decent performance. Here's hoping Still is now starting to see who his best players are and where to play them. Need to get some momentum going now and get a settled starting 11 nailed down.

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Wsaint

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Just now, benjii said:

For the record, I wasn't accusing him of being a sex person.

Good lord, not a sex person!

benjii

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1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Somewhere on a Norwich forum, someone is probably saying they would rather discuss the pedestrianisation of the high street than watch this shite.

It would improve access to Dixxooooonnnnsss

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Monk

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Yeah fair enough.. decent win. 

 

When the fuck did we sign 'Matski' and 'Cisse'?

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CSA96

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1 minute ago, captainchris said:

Matsuki is a class above…. 
 

I'm not sure he is, but what he does do, is play with the intent to drive forward and create opening for others or himself. We have such an absence of that, he stands out like a sore thumb for actually doing it. Need more of that, as WS has said

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saintant

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Just now, CB Fry said:

Matski was far better 

He is the one player who gets between the lines. Need to see more of him but promise shown tonight and a cracking goal.

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AlexLaw76

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FT 0-3

First half; Thought we were largely bad. No rhythm, little/no patterns of play, looking incredibly shaky at the back and wide open spaces all over the park. excellent individual goal.

Second Half: Much more purpose with the ball, still wide open in midfield, but more sure in defence. Looked stronger as the game went on, but then we did have a faaaaar stronger bench than Norwich.

 

Patterns of play in the first half are a huge concern, and we are still wide open in the middle of the park. Charles does cover some ground during the game, but we will continue to be incredibly vulnerable on a quick counter if we persist with the horrible 3 at the back set up. But we looked more of a threat with 2 strikers.

Cracking goal from Matsuki also. 

Charles was my MoM, closely followed by Archer and Fraser.

Surely, just surely...we will not go into the Watford game with Armstrong as the lone striker...just cannot happen.

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Wsaint

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Stewart and archer together up top worked well I thought, even in the first half when everything else wasn't quite clicking, interesting if they get a run of games to build on that. Downs not doing a lot since coming on but unlucky not to get his head on that cross, could've been a different story. Progress but remembering that was a weaker and pretty shite Norwich team.

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CSA96

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2 minutes ago, benjii said:

Some big lass stretching her crack there.

Come on mate that's no way to talk about BBD on the counter

trousers

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Surely, just surely...we will not go into the Watford game with Armstrong as the lone striker...just cannot happen.

If there's ONE thing that Still has learned from tonight that's it... Surely?

Midfield_General

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Full-time MaccaWatch: 

First half:

- Caught in possession dallying with the ball at his feet, got away with it

- Good save down low to his left

- Routine save to his right to prevent an own goal

- Routine save at shoulder height to his right

- Poor pass out to defender, got away with it

Second half:

- Good save through a crowd of players

- Poor clearance straight to Norwich player, got away with it 

- Beaten by low shot, went wide, possibly had it covered but also possibly not

Summary: 

- Decent shot-stopping, poor with his feet. An old-school 7/10. 

 

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Harry_SFC

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

He is the one player who gets between the lines. Need to see more of him but promise shown tonight and a cracking goal.

There was talk about him going out on loan a couple of weeks ago. On that showing it would be a big mistake.

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Mboto Gorge

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9 minutes ago, benjii said:

Not as good as a handshake with Jackie Stewart though.

Or a visit to the spice museum at Longstanton

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beatlesaint

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First half was bloody awful.

Second half totally different, like night and day.

I’m hoping the 70th minute subs mean Stewart and Archer are up front Saturday.

I’m also hoping a non league club come in for BBD on loan cos he is fkin shite !!!

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Osvaldorama

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Not bad overall tonight. 
 

My biggest concern tonight is that Downes is really struggling and I didn’t expect it. 

Hoping he’s just rusty and out of confidence from a shite season. 
 

My other big concern is Ross Stewart’s beard 

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S-Clarke

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First half was a bit dull and too slow, but we always had a tiny edge I felt - and then Archer got a good goal.

Second half was much more of what I think Still wants from us. Purpose, driving forward and more control. We dictated that second half and Norwich had no real sniffs at all. Really good lively performances from Fraser and Archer. I've always liked the looks of Matsuki, and he's a really busy little player too - think he may chip in a bit this season.

Mads slotted into the side like he's never been out of it, he's the sort of no nonsense sensible signing we need to continue doing.

The most comfortable win since our Championship season last time out, it feels odd. (PNE at home I think)

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macca155

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Good win, needed that. I thought Wood and Quarshie looked very solid. Nathan takes no shit and that's what we need. He took the pressure off Quarshie.

Norwich were poor but you can only beat what's in front of you. 

More positives than negatives for once. BBD and Downs looked decidedly average. The latter needs time but BBD needs to go.

Let's see what the impact is on Saturday, another tough game

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SWLondon Saint

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Got to be Stewart and Archer up front I think. Stewart can actually win the ball and shield it, Archer looks a different player with a big man up ahead of him. Downs still a work in progress but if Stewart can stay fit and be the main target man, that would help Downs a lot as he'd have someone to base his game on. He should throw himself around and be more aggressive though, he looks a unit.

Holmes_and_Watson

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A lot quieter after the subs came on. We snuffed Norwich out, but didn;t see that much from either Downs or BBD. They both looked a little less than sharp. But both (yes, even BBD) probably have more to give. 

Of the other subs, Matsuki's goal was a screamer, and we controlled the game. Sesay gets a debut and Taylor looked fine, which he mostly always has. No idea what's gone on behind the scenes in his time here. 

But this was against a much changed, and very poor Norwich side, and we worked hard to give them chances in that first half, before getting ahead. 

So, this is a confidence booster, but with the knowledge that a lot more is needed across a whole 90 mins than we saw here. 

Still will be pleased that the midfield of Downes and Charles found some roles and managed to link up. Albeit, Norwich gave them a lot of space. 

Having three forwards, all capable of coming into the centre to finish made a difference. Archer finished, as did Fraser, with Stewart being very close on a few occassions. We could still do with someone a lot more physical and pacy on one of the flanks. 

Although Charles did well as the game went on, we also really need an out and out attacking midfielder and someone specialised in breaking play up, rather than relying on Downes in that role all the time.

It took time for us to take control, and better sides could really have punished our defending in that first half. 

A nice win in the end, and we got to see more of the squad get a run out tonight. 

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Monk

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Just now, SWLondon Saint said:

Got to be Stewart and Archer up front I think. Stewart can actually win the ball and shield it, Archer looks a different player with a big man up ahead of him. Downs still a work in progress but if Stewart can stay fit and be the main target man, that would help Downs a lot as he'd have someone to base his game on. He should throw himself around and be more aggressive though, he looks a unit.

Agree with the Stewart and Archer notion for Watford. 

Downs is much more than a work in progress.... just work at the moment. 

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whelk

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3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Not bad overall tonight. 
 

My biggest concern tonight is that Downes is really struggling and I didn’t expect it. 

Hoping he’s just rusty and out of confidence from a shite season. 
 

My other big concern is Ross Stewart’s beard 

TBF I think he got better as game went on 

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Chez

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10 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

BBD is an odd one. He clearly wasn't always this poor. Somewhere along the way, perhaps injury or bad coaching, he's just lost it completely. 

Maybe he banged his head at some point and it's affected his muscle memory.

AlexLaw76

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6 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Not bad overall tonight. 
 

My biggest concern tonight is that Downes is really struggling and I didn’t expect it. 

Hoping he’s just rusty and out of confidence from a shite season. 
 

My other big concern is Ross Stewart’s beard 

How we play, there are massive amount of space in the middle of the park when we lose the ball high up the pitch. 
Charles drifts left, with Fraser drifting right...huge gaps, leaving Downes, on this occasion, to have players running at him.

 

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SWLondon Saint

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12 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

BBD is an odd one. He clearly wasn't always this poor. Somewhere along the way, perhaps injury or bad coaching, he's just lost it completely. Would struggle in the non-league. 

As I've been saying, BBD is exhibit A in Russell Martin's Circus of Broken Players. I have no idea if he was OK technically once or not, but he clearly has absolutely no confidence right now and can't seem to do anything right really.

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Sir Ralph

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10 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

I'm not sure he is, but what he does do, is play with the intent to drive forward and create opening for others or himself. We have such an absence of that, he stands out like a sore thumb for actually doing it. Need more of that, as WS has said

If Still is starting to get his high press going then he’s ideal for it

AlexLaw76

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Just now, Osvaldorama said:

Would a back four of:

 

Mads THB Stephens Taylor 

 

Be pretty good at champ level? Or am I imagining things? 

Depends the protection in midfield is, but would allow us to bully the opposition further up the pitch (imo)

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Colinjb

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1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

Would a back four of:

 

Mads THB Stephens Taylor 

 

Be pretty good at champ level? Or am I imagining things? 

Depends what is in front of it.

Jack

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Just now, Osvaldorama said:

Would a back four of:

 

Mads THB Stephens Taylor 

 

Be pretty good at champ level? Or am I imagining things? 

Was just thinking about this. Both experienced, sensible full backs who’d likely give you 7/10 most weeks. And frees up a an extra man in midfield which should give the back 4 more protection than we’ve been seeing 

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SW5 SAINT

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23 minutes ago, trousers said:

After a crap start, which stronger teams than Norwich's second string would have punished us for, that was a decent performance. Here's hoping Still is now starting to see who his best players are and where to play them. Need to get some momentum going now and get a settled starting 11 nailed down.

 

23 minutes ago, trousers said:

After a crap start, which stronger teams than Norwich's second string would have punished us for, that was a decent performance. Here's hoping Still is now starting to see who his best players are and where to play them. Need to get some momentum going now and get a settled starting 11 nailed down.

TBF I think it was largely our second string too….!

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S-Clarke

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12 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

I'm not sure he is, but what he does do, is play with the intent to drive forward and create opening for others or himself. We have such an absence of that, he stands out like a sore thumb for actually doing it. Need more of that, as WS has said

He hasn't been infected by Russball, so he's free of all that pass back nonsense. It shows.

You don't need to be an amazing player to move forward, but if you do have a tiny bit of quality when you do so it can make a huge difference.

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saintant

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9 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Not bad overall tonight. 
 

My biggest concern tonight is that Downes is really struggling and I didn’t expect it. 

Hoping he’s just rusty and out of confidence from a shite season. 
 

My other big concern is Ross Stewart’s beard 

Regarding Downes he is having to do too much work on his own. He is the only one in midfield who puts a tackle in and harries opponents. Needs some help in the middle.

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AlexLaw76

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Just now, SW5 SAINT said:

 

I think it was largely our second string too….!

Yes, but our striking options today could have paid for their match day squad about 2 or 3 times over....

We had much better players playing today, with a far stronger bench,

Good 2nd half though

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