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Ex Lion Tamer

Ex Lion Tamer

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3 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

His movement in the box is dogshit, he’s always waiting for the ball and never makes little runs.  His finishing is shit, misses loads of good chances.  He is shit at penalties.

I don’t need xG.  I see it most weeks at St Mary’s.

We knew two years ago that he isn't a striker and should be playing off the wing where movement matters less and where he will still score plenty of goals

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trousers

trousers

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17 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

We are gonna be stuck with Joe Aribo and his huge salary until the summer aren’t we? 🤦‍♂️

Is that a euphemism...?

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OldNick

OldNick

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26 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Is 15m really that much money for a 20  goal a season championship striker ? AA is pretty much guaranteed goals at this level and is versatile enough to play wide too and still score 20 a season from there ..

it’s a new level of stupid if we let him go and would be writing off the season for a poxy 15 million 

I can see where you are going but 15m still gets a decent player. I wonder if the club are financially hurting and we need to get some fees in plus lose wages. After all we have Archer , but we would need to get someone in if he does fgo 

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26 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

We are gonna be stuck with Joe Aribo and his huge salary until the summer aren’t we? 🤦‍♂️

New tune 🎵 "Kids and Grown Ups love him so, please someone buy Aribo"🎵 

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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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22 hours ago, Chez said:

not sure they do, do they?

They don't. It's all done automatically by an algorithm that 'supposedly' compares the opportunity with database of what it considers to be similar historical examples.  No human beings were involved in the generation of these figures.

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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8 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

How many chances did he have and what percentage of shots did he score? I agree his output has been prolific but he's required a heck of a lot of chances to achieve that output. In the PL chances are harder to come by which is why I think he'll never be good enough to make the step up.

You could argue that he makes those chances with his movement etc, but equally you could argue that the team has been geared up to try and take advantage of his pace and movement.

A more natural striker would have scored a lot more with those chances and I suspect this is what SR thought Archer would be.

For me it's time to move on and start building a team for tomorrow.

Percentage of shots?

Means nothing in isolation.  Maybe he creates more opportunities for shots than others but is not as clinical as top level strikers? That could be why he was not as effective in the Premier League?

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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5 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Statistically a goal every 2 games sounds good, but in reality he goes long spells with no goals (or assists), like now. He doesn't contribute when we are struggling, but has a purple patch when we are playing well (cause and effect).

A goal every two games does not equate with going long spells without scoring. 

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pimpin4rizeal

pimpin4rizeal

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21 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I can see where you are going but 15m still gets a decent player. I wonder if the club are financially hurting and we need to get some fees in plus lose wages. After all we have Archer , but we would need to get someone in if he does fgo 

Doubt they would drop the 15m all on a striker anyway it would just weaken us and be a total gamble as to whether they replaced him properly ..

we already sold onuachu and replaced hm with Damion downs and he would have been the perfect big man everyone wants us to sign at this level.Paul is way better then Stewart and we could have really done with him in the championship 

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BotleySaint

BotleySaint

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49 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

it’s a new level of stupid if we let him go and would be writing off the season for a poxy 15 million 

Unless he has stated he wants to leave. In which case it may be worth it - if we can get in suitable replacement.

The problem is that Sports Republic are being trusted with that decision.

AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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Just now, BotleySaint said:

Unless he has stated he wants to leave. In which case it may be worth it - if we can get in suitable replacement.

The problem is that Sports Republic are being trusted with that decision.

We could get 2 Damion Downs!!!

4d chess, is the game being played here. 

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coalman

coalman

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Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

We could get 2 Damion Downs!!!

4d chess, is the game being played here. 

4D as in breast size because Sport Republic appear to be a bunch of colossal tits from where I'm sat?

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Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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8 hours ago, SaintsRoyalty said:

Birmingham have just outbid Ajax for a player. £7m outlay for a club that hasn’t been in the premier league for 15 years.
 

Meanwhile at this club who were in the prem last year and who are £74m up on player trading this year there is not a single rumour or penny spent all window. Make it make sense.

Put coal in a dutch mans arse and it will come out a diamond, they are so tight.

They make the scots seem generous.

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Appy

Appy

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Is 15m really that much money for a 20  goal a season championship striker ? AA is pretty much guaranteed goals at this level and is versatile enough to play wide too and still score 20 a season from there ..

it’s a new level of stupid if we let him go and would be writing off the season for a poxy 15 million 

Yes, £15m is a lot for a guy who can’t do it at a higher level and is nearly 29.

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saintant

saintant

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3 hours ago, Chez said:

Maybe we did, but we didn't make a player trading profit the summer before.

The player trading roughly evens itself out over the course of several years, but outside of that, the club has been losing money each year (for the last three or four years) due to the expenditure exceeding income. It will be interesting to see the 2025 accounts in a few months time. 

Year before we got promoted so would have made millions from that.

Willo of Whiteley

Willo of Whiteley

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Not Joe Aribo’s fault the club offered him stupid money.

He’s well within his right to sit around and not do much. Doesn’t seem like the most productive thing to do in a short footballing career.

Footballers careers can nosedive in two years. Look at where people like Sterling or Walker were a few years back compared to now. It happens with all sorts of players. Berahino back in the day too.

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Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Is 15m really that much money for a 20  goal a season championship striker ? AA is pretty much guaranteed goals at this level and is versatile enough to play wide too and still score 20 a season from there ..

it’s a new level of stupid if we let him go and would be writing off the season for a poxy 15 million 

Championship teams don't tend to spend £15m on players too often. Those that have, haven't always got the return they wanted.

We paid £15m for him. At that point he was a 28 goal a season championship striker that we imagined would make the step up. Since then we have found he can't do it in the PL and he's become a 20 goal man and now maybe just a 16 goal a season striker. Not to be sniffed at. Does Archer get 11 goals of he got the same minutes?

18 months left of his contract. His value goes down from here. 

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Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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20 minutes ago, Appy said:

Yes, £15m is a lot for a guy who can’t do it at a higher level and is nearly 29.

We'd be getting our money back. It would be great business. Not sure Boro can pay that much though. 

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Turkish

Turkish

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1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

we will probably end up selling him then our replacement wont happen, we'll rely on Stewart and Archer for the rest of the season. It'll be spun as a great deal for the club, a master class in player trading etc

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SNSUN

SNSUN

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What are Akachukwu and the other youngsters like? If we don't bring anyone in we might be edging closer to using them.

Baz Fl

Baz Fl

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48 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We could get 2 Damion Downs!!!

4d chess, is the game being played here. 

I currently hate having 1 Damion Downs for god sake don’t make me think about 2 of them in our team 🤮

Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

We are gonna be stuck with Joe Aribo and his huge salary until the summer aren’t we? 🤦‍♂️

Yes. No reason for him to leave now unless someone matched his wage - and they wont - so may as well keep being paid by Saints.   

But his salary might not be "huge" ...unless SR dropped a Risdale type bollock.

Chez

Chez

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19 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

We'd be getting our money back. It would be great business. Not sure Boro can pay that much though. 

Feels a lot for a side that sold players to balance the books. I guess they are getting within touching distance of the promise land, so a Billy Sharpe-like signing might be an option, but they will have seen he can't cut it in the PL, so seems a stretch to spend £15m for half a season.

Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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21 minutes ago, Turkish said:

we will probably end up selling him then our replacement wont happen, we'll rely on Stewart and Archer for the rest of the season. It'll be spun as a great deal for the club, a master class in player trading etc

We will sell Armstrong, fail to land his replacement on deadline day and miss out on a forward all together. Then Stewart will get injured against Watford and he'll be out for the rest of the season. It's almost nailed on. 

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coalman

coalman

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1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

We will sell Armstrong, fail to land his replacement on deadline day and miss out on a forward all together. Then Stewart will get injured against Watford and he'll be out for the rest of the season. It's almost nailed on. 

Sadly true. I think we're such a long way past hoping that this time is going to be different that we've resigned ourselves to a saga where the outcome is also the answer to the question: what's the most embarrassing way that Sport Republic can screw this up? 

Turkish

Turkish

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3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

I’m expecting the full saints PR Armstrong wanted to go b/s but 10-15m is shite for proven scorer I wouldn’t trust SR with 50p to replace him.

Damien Downs back in the summer full of confidence from an epic loan spell. He'll be like a new signing.

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Saint Scott

Saint Scott

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4 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

I’m expecting the full saints PR Armstrong wanted to go b/s but 10-15m is shite for proven scorer I wouldn’t trust SR with 50p to replace him.

Starting to feel like that isn't it...

 

coalman

coalman

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2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Damien Downs back in the summer full of confidence from an epic loan spell. He'll be like a new signing.

BBD will be back in the summer too. A strikeforce of Downs, BBD and Archer is going to take some beating..... Stewart will also have a couple of good games and get a new 4 year contract before promptly getting injured again. Oh what a time to be alive as a Saints fan.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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Just now, coalman said:

BBD will be back in the summer too. A strikeforce of Downs, BBD and Archer is going to take some beating..... Stewart will also have a couple of good games and get a new 4 year contract before promptly getting injured again. Oh what a time to be alive as a Saints fan.

and Sugawara...

Getting the old gang back together!!!

Turkish

Turkish

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1 minute ago, coalman said:

BBD will be back in the summer too. A strikeforce of Downs, BBD and Archer is going to take some beating..... Stewart will also have a couple of good games and get a new 4 year contract before promptly getting injured again. Oh what a time to be alive as a Saints fan.

 

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

and Sugawara...

Getting the old gang back together!!!

the data on these guys is phenomenal though chaps, proper players. You dont even need to see them to know that they will cook next season.

coalman

coalman

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3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

 

the data on these guys is phenomenal though chaps, proper players. You dont even need to see them to know that they will cook next season.

 

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To put into perspective on the Armstrong situation, Oliver McBurnie has scored the same amount of goals as Armstrong, in ten games less. McBurnie!! It's embarrassing that we'd now probably quite like someone like him in our team. 

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lambtiss

lambtiss

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24 minutes ago, Chez said:

Feels a lot for a side that sold players to balance the books. I guess they are getting within touching distance of the promise land, so a Billy Sharpe-like signing might be an option, but they will have seen he can't cut it in the PL, so seems a stretch to spend £15m for half a season.

It isn’t a lot if his goals get them over the line for promotion.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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We are building a monumental side for next season.

Bazunu

Sugawara, Stephens, Sayanda, Manning

Matsuki, Smallbone

Brereton-Diaz, Juan, Downs

Archer

 

That is a potent mix of real experience, talent and multi-club advantages 

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bangkoksaint

bangkoksaint

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Probably mentioned before but if he goes to Borough we probably write off some of the Azaz fee in reality. So in effect they get the league’s top scorer for peanuts. If he fires them to the PL and even if they then ditch him, that’s excellent  business from their POV.

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die Mannyschaft

die Mannyschaft

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Nothing in this window then, over spent on last few years means only selling players. 

Its a hopeless situation that we don't have a capable scouting operation to find players on loan at affordable deals. Other teams manage to do it. 

No defenders, midfield and strikers to bolster team. Oh well at least we can tell opposition fans we have most expensive team, loads of money look Saints wad ££££

bpsaint

bpsaint

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50 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

Starting to feel like that isn't it...

 

Fair play to Blackmore for publically digging out SR, makes a welcome change.

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Daft Kerplunk

Daft Kerplunk

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52 minutes ago, coalman said:

BBD will be back in the summer too. A strikeforce of Downs, BBD and Archer is going to take some beating..... Stewart will also have a couple of good games and get a new 4 year contract before promptly getting injured again. Oh what a time to be alive as a Saints fan.

I mean, they are all top quality at this level...apparently.  Stats down the pub says so.

Badger

Badger

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7 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Fair play to Blackmore for publically digging out SR, makes a welcome change.

Interesting that both he and Alfie House have become more openly critical of the club in recent weeks.

Could be argued that it’s difficult not to be, or perhaps they’re taking a steer from the general public opinion. It can’t have gone unnoticed at the club.

Last time Blackmore was so outspoken as I recall was after Jones appointment and there was a rumoured rift between factions at the club ( the old v the new, Semmens and Rasmus possibly in conflict). Wonder if there is such a rift he’s aware of, and he feels gives license to take a side. Probably idle speculation. 

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lambtiss

lambtiss

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44 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

We are building a monumental side for next season.

Bazunu

Sugawara, Stephens, Sayanda, Manning

Matsuki, Smallbone

Brereton-Diaz, Juan, Downs

Archer

 

That is a potent mix of real experience, talent and multi-club advantages 

That side will storm League 2

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