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Saint NL

Saint NL

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Tonda will spend his usual 10 minutes of preparation getting the team sorted.

"Same line up as usual, oh they have a fast striker so Jack, you sit this one out and Quarshie starts". Job done.

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AlexLaw76

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9 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Tonda will spend his usual 10 minutes of preparation getting the team sorted.

"Same line up as usual, oh they have a fast striker so Jack, you sit this one out and Quarshie starts". Job done.

And spend time studying xG stats

Wade Garrett

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I’ll go. 
We could be world champions at walking football because that’s how the useless lazy fuckers play.

Looking forward to watching Nathan Wood put his foot on the ball and take an age to pass it, every fucking time.

Looking forward to the fucking geek on the sidelines make some more shite substitutions and get completely schooled by Wilder.

I don’t actually care whether we win or lose.  Club is rotten throughout.

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die Mannyschaft

die Mannyschaft

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26 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I’ll go. 
We could be world champions at walking football because that’s how the useless lazy fuckers play.

Looking forward to watching Nathan Wood put his foot on the ball and take an age to pass it, every fucking time.

Looking forward to the fucking geek on the sidelines make some more shite substitutions and get completely schooled by Wilder.

I don’t actually care whether we win or lose.  Club is rotten throughout.

Looking forward to watching Nathan Wood put his foot on the ball and take an age to pass it, every fucking time

one of the most irritating things for fans to watch. Saints are not Brazil or Germany of the past with World class players with high level close control and passing vision. Why are walking around like we are so good we can piss about with the ball. 

LGTL

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I’d absolutely fucking love to see Wood, Manning and Downes fucked off, three of the biggest twats to ever put the shirt on. Won’t happen of course, and we’ll play 5 at the back, and Russ’s lot will still be played, and we’ll still play it around at the back, and still wack it forward to Armstrong. 
 

Peretz, Jelert, Quarshie, THB, Wellington, Bragg, Jander, Fellows, Armstrong, Scienza, Stewart. 
 

More chance that pigs fly, of course. 

 

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bpsaint

bpsaint

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3 hours ago, Football Special said:

It's astonishing period of mismanagement about to culminate with a total collapse at Fratton next week , it just can't continue any longer , good to see Alfie House is calling them out publicly , need more of this at every opportunity, get the fraud Spors back out for an interview- he needs to say if he isn't the real decision maker and Rasmus is pulling the strings (look at the Garner links for clear indication of this) 

 

Fair play to Alfie for risking his all access pass to tell it like it is. Saying the same thing most of us are thinking.

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Saint Pete

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You would just like to see something different tried from the start, is that so much to ask after so many without a win when we are supposed to be aiming for promotion? Or are we really now happy to keep sliding down the Championship table whilst sitting on our hands?

dsrdorset

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I'm not leaving work early, only to battle through rush hour traffic, skip dinner, and return home around 11:30pm to watch that shit. And as a season ticket holder of many many years, this is not a decision made lightly. But they don't deserve my energy until they start giving a shit and actually be proud to wear the shirt. 

 

 

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macca155

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Well I'll be there, ever the optimist.

Wilder will have his players kick our talent every which way to Wednesday. They'll press relentlessly, and look to expose the gaps at LB and RB. 

Play 4 3 3 to counter this and really get in their faces. Cards galore, don't let them settle.

Purge the complacency and garbage football from the team, and get the crowd onside.

Bree, THB, Wood and Wellington at the back.

Bragg, Williams, and Jander in midfield. Up front whoever. They can all score if the ball gets to them.

Anybody tippy tapping about gets hooked. Use the bench sensibly to maintain the intensity. 

Most importantly keep the initiative, boss the game.

Won't happen as some wanker analysing the data will produce a power point advocating the opposite.

You can hear it now, 'Stick to the vision be part of the project.'

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beatlesaint

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39 minutes ago, dsrdorset said:

I'm not leaving work early, only to battle through rush hour traffic, skip dinner, and return home around 11:30pm to watch that shit. And as a season ticket holder of many many years, this is not a decision made lightly. But they don't deserve my energy until they start giving a shit and actually be proud to wear the shirt. 

 

 

Yeah I feel exactly the same tbh.

Gerrys Dark Forest

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1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

Yeah I feel exactly the same tbh.

Same here...M3 evening from Fleet ...crap traffic miserable football...as a season ticket holder I used to love coming down for evening games but the pleasure to pain ratio now is so low I just feel apathy....my lad us at Bournemouth uni and we enjoy meeting up for games..but its almost gallows humour now....his first season as A ST holder was Watching Mane with  Pelle and Tadic....now its Manning , Archer and Downes... Hard work....

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qwertyell

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Fuck it. Go young. We've tried everything else.

Let's see what the likes of Dobson-Ventura, Sanda, Sesay, Bragg, Robinson, and Oyekunle are all about. 

The worst that can happen is we'll be shit and lose. That's happening anyway. 

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Tommy Mulgrew

Tommy Mulgrew

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On 17/01/2026 at 20:26, Willo of Whiteley said:

A FULLY ERECT … BACK FIVE THAT IS TOTALLY ABLE TO KEEP A CLEAN SHEET.

First part I doubt but second part I could believe (but not for the reason you envisaged).   😳

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VectisSaint

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53 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said:

Peretz

Bree Wood THB Wellington

Bragg Downes

Fellows Azaz Leo

Stewart

Oh, and a 3rd version of “Backwards and Sideways”  

 

 

Not Downes. Charles supposed to be involved Wednesday, Jander if he's not ready to start.

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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Sheff Utd should have some key players missing given their sending offs last weekend. Yet again we play a weakened team. We've had so many opportunities this season and we're pissing them against a wall.

Really would like to know just how much autonomy Tonda has in picking the formation. He needs to be asked directly and really pressed on the matter. Sure, with our lightweights, even with a bolstered midfield, they'll probably be easily pushed off the ball - but they have to try something new. Wood has become a liability so it's a simple decision to drop a centre back.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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16 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

I’ll go. 
We could be world champions at walking football because that’s how the useless lazy fuckers play.

 

Thank god we chased out someone who wanted to rip up the players pedestrian football instincts and get them playing football with higher intensity and more individual autonomy about when/how they can move the ball forward.

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Dman

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10 hours ago, Mr Brightside said:

Peretz

Bree Wood THB Wellington

Bragg Downes

Fellows Azaz Leo

Stewart

Oh, and a 3rd version of “Backwards and Sideways”  

 

 

Whilst I fully apprecate that all of our CB's are pony, I think Wood is up there as arguably the worst of the lot. 

Probably need to bring stephens back in. Again, picking from a bad bunch, but THB and Stephens are probably our best options. 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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36 minutes ago, Dman said:

Whilst I fully apprecate that all of our CB's are pony, I think Wood is up there as arguably the worst of the lot. 

Probably need to bring stephens back in. Again, picking from a bad bunch, but THB and Stephens are probably our best options. 

Dreadful attitude too. The most direct thing he’s done all season was told a supporter to fuck off.

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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41 minutes ago, Dman said:

Whilst I fully apprecate that all of our CB's are pony, I think Wood is up there as arguably the worst of the lot. 

Probably need to bring stephens back in. Again, picking from a bad bunch, but THB and Stephens are probably our best options. 

I've never liked him, I know some said he was probably our 'best CB' so far this season in earlier weeks - but what a low fricking bar that was. He's awful on the ball, and whilst he may have some physical attributes, he's thick as shit so he doesn't know how to use him. Is he our thickest ever CB?

I think he's awful, and he's now at the level he's always been at. Bottom half, low end Championship CB. And what happens when you sign lots of those players? You end up there.

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Turkish

Turkish

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After the excellent performance against Hull we can see that things are definitely moving in the right direction. With Ben and Tondas little Kingdom starting to improve things on the training ground and a new analyst on board we can be sure that success is on the horizon. The data from saturdays game was very, very encouraging and shows us that we are getting most things right

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Football Special

Football Special

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10 minutes ago, Turkish said:

After the excellent performance against Hull we can see that things are definitely moving in the right direction. With Ben and Tondas little Kingdom starting to improve things on the training ground and a new analyst on board we can be sure that success is on the horizon. The data from saturdays game was very, very encouraging and shows us that we are getting most things right

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The sad thing is mate there are plenty of football nerds that will read that and nod in agreement, ignoring the evidence of their eyes watching the actual match where we were rubbish 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Thank god we chased out someone who wanted to rip up the players pedestrian football instincts and get them playing football with higher intensity and more individual autonomy about when/how they can move the ball forward.

Well, he promised it (if you’re referring to Will Still) but didn’t deliver on it, or at least didn’t drive the core of Martin players to do so. Should have dropped them, squad big enough to do so.

21at in the Champ. 

If you’re referring to Ivan Juric, the bloke never had an earthly chance.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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2 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Thank god we chased out someone who wanted to rip up the players pedestrian football instincts and get them playing football with higher intensity and more individual autonomy about when/how they can move the ball forward.

Are you refering to Still? I don't care what he 'wanted to' do, his teams were dreadful and didn't seem to have a clue how they were supposed to be playing.

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Saint_clark

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33 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Are you refering to Still? I don't care what he 'wanted to' do, his teams were dreadful and didn't seem to have a clue how they were supposed to be playing.

That's more on the players than on him isn't it, as the way they know how to play is what we're seeing now. I'd much rather have given him the whole season and next summer to rebuild the squad completely, getting rid of the brainwashed keep ball merchants the squad is full of.

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S-Clarke

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38 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Are you refering to Still? I don't care what he 'wanted to' do, his teams were dreadful and didn't seem to have a clue how they were supposed to be playing.

I don't really know what Still was trying to do, but I still believe he saw the same things and same issues as us, the players just struggled to execute or follow anything. He had a bit more about him I think, albeit still inexperienced. This team needs a really, really, really strong voice and genuine authority - but will the club, and the first team players allow that to happen? Doesn't look like it.

Tonda just does the worst thing any manager can do, and it's when they lose any credit with me. It's when they start seeing an entirely different game than those who watch it. And that's Tonda. 

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Turkish

Turkish

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13 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

🎵 Chim Chimeney, Chim Chimeney,

Chim Chim Cheroo

Oh Sports Republic We Fucking Hate You 🎵 

chim chinmey, chim chimeney 

chim chin cheroo

We've got a better XG than you

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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19 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

That's more on the players than on him isn't it, as the way they know how to play is what we're seeing now. I'd much rather have given him the whole season and next summer to rebuild the squad completely, getting rid of the brainwashed keep ball merchants the squad is full of.

We’d be several points adrift with only Sheff Weds below us by now. Appreciate that the current form is where we’d have landed anyway and relegation looks very likely still without appointing a manager whose balls and voice have dropped. But it wasn’t for that string of victories in November, we’d have been nailed on to join the Owls in L1. 

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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54 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

We’d be several points adrift with only Sheff Weds below us by now. Appreciate that the current form is where we’d have landed anyway and relegation looks very likely still without appointing a manager whose balls and voice have dropped. But it wasn’t for that string of victories in November, we’d have been nailed on to join the Owls in L1. 

Yep. If you take out that purple patch in November and extrapolate our PPG from the runs of games either side of it, we would currently be sitting on about 21 points, with only the basket case of Wednesday keeping us off bottom.

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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23 hours ago, LoyalSaintSO50 said:

Will also be interested to see how many get a sudden niggle ruling them out for Sunday. I’m going Manning and Downs deliberate and big Ross accidental 

Do we have any players who are 1 yellow card away from a convenient ban for Fratton ?

saintant

saintant

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1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

Do we have any players who are 1 yellow card away from a convenient ban for Fratton ?

Can see Downes making sure he gets a red on Wednesday so he can avoid playing at Fratton.

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

Can see Downes making sure he gets a red on Wednesday so he can avoid playing at Fratton.

Yep. No doubt with one of his comedy, trying-to-make-it-look-accidental-but-failing-miserably fouls that he is seemingly so fond of.

I'd rather put Bragg in for the Pompey game anyway. At least as an academy product he understands the meaning of the derby. Don't think I'll be able to watch Downes wandering about aimlessly and passing it sideways and backwards at FP without putting my foot through the TV.

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Turkish

Turkish

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8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Do we have any players who are 1 yellow card away from a convenient ban for Fratton ?

Hopefully

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

That's more on the players than on him isn't it, as the way they know how to play is what we're seeing now. I'd much rather have given him the whole season and next summer to rebuild the squad completely, getting rid of the brainwashed keep ball merchants the squad is full of.

No, it really isn’t. I really don’t get some of the takes people have on the last three years at Saints. Apparently we keep ‘reverting back to Russball’ and that’s why we’re crap. That’d be Russball that got us promoted in fourth at the first attempt.  Actual Russball is a million miles better than this, we actually got results. Still had us down in 20th place and the team looked helpless.

SWLondon Saint

SWLondon Saint

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3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

No, it really isn’t. I really don’t get some of the takes people have on the last three years at Saints. Apparently we keep ‘reverting back to Russball’ and that’s why we’re crap. That’d be Russball that got us promoted in fourth at the first attempt.  Actual Russball is a million miles better than this, we actually got results. Still had us down in 20th place and the team looked helpless.

The game changes. We are currently playing Russball - the problem is towards the end of the last Champ season, teams had started to figure out how to play against it, in the Prem we got absolutely destroyed as all the managers knew how to play against it, and now we're back here and it doesn't take a genius to just look at how better teams have done it and everyone has a great template of how to beat us.

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