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I thought Dragan had said we didn’t need to sell to balance the books. Of course, this might be talking up the situation, hiding the truth, or it could be fact.

Where did the £60m to balance the books come from?

Somewhere between those two extremes we have banked around £9m for Armstrong, and reduced the payroll by £6m for releasing Aribo, Smallbone and McCarthy, plus others. Add in Ramsdale and Sugawara, maybe another £20m. Anything else to add in?

That takes us to £35m against the cost and contracts for Latin and Peretz. Add in Charles, and exceed the £60m, so have either hit the break even, or have a sizeable war chest.

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

Report I read was that he needed to accept it

Got a link, that’s the first time I’ve heard that? Contract extensions are normally automatic, unless there’s a timeframe missed like Stewart situation.

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3 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Got a link, that’s the first time I’ve heard that? Contract extensions are normally automatic, unless there’s a timeframe missed like Stewart situation.

May have been Alfie House but I can't recall.

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24 minutes ago, Pwoite said:

I thought Dragan had said we didn’t need to sell to balance the books. Of course, this might be talking up the situation, hiding the truth, or it could be fact.

Where did the £60m to balance the books come from?

Somewhere between those two extremes we have banked around £9m for Armstrong, and reduced the payroll by £6m for releasing Aribo, Smallbone and McCarthy, plus others. Add in Ramsdale and Sugawara, maybe another £20m. Anything else to add in?

That takes us to £35m against the cost and contracts for Latin and Peretz. Add in Charles, and exceed the £60m, so have either hit the break even, or have a sizeable war chest.

You're going to be very disappointed when we sell more players.

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1 hour ago, Katalinic said:

We have an option to extend for a year so technically two.

Cheers, I didn't realise that. 

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56 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Sorry no lol, I think its Jordan James

Jordan James is an interesting shout. Had a very good season last year in a  terrible Leicester team. 34 apps, 11 goals. According to Wiki they had agreed a €5 million option to buy, but the player isn't going to play in League One. So you'd think he would be available for sub-£10m given that he had a good season.

I'm sure we've looked at him, as it's a pretty obvious one. But maybe Dan Neil is the type of midfielder we want and the finances work better. Maybe we'd move if we lost another midfielder like Jander. Or, maybe he's destined for West Ham like any decent Championship player, it seems!

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I saw Blackmore suggested the other day that we should look to get Liam Delap on loan. Is that in any way realistic? Delap and Larin would be ridiculously good Championship attacking options.

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23 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I saw a suggestion that Charles and Jander could go to be replaced by JWP and Neil. Would people be happy with that? I think we have to cut our cloth and sell people. If the sales were Charles, THB and Jander (along with archer and bbd) you'd think we could make at least 80 million from that lot.  we then manage to keep Downes, Scienza and Azaz I could probably live with that. 

Peretz 

Bree/Roeslev Stephens/quarshie new signing/Wood Manning/Wellington

Fellows/Matsuki Downes/Neil Jwp/Bragg Scienza/Edozie 

Azaz/new signing 

Larin/ new signing 

Assuming the players we sign are solid you'd have to say that's a pretty decent championship team. Maybe three signings after Neil. Maybe 15-20 million for those? 60 million profit is about what we were told we needed right?

Let's forget the initials JWP and move on.

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On 26/06/2026 at 14:51, hypochondriac said:

I would imagine he’ll be a great signing. At Town he never really got up to speed, didn’t play a huge amount and was short on matches having not played a lot in the Prem but having captained Sunderland so young is likely a good influence on a team. He’d be good alongside Neil Danns as it would confuse opponents 

He was fine – had a decent start but was off the pace due to lack of game time

Imagine that he'd have done well if he'd been with us from the summer, so probably a good signing for you

Will be good in a full season. He came to us after not being used for half a season and was mostly cover/competition.

 

Another year experience. He’s still young enough to learn and he did great for Sunderland. Did not let us down and did the job expected of him 

He controls the midfield. I preferred him sitting back as a 6 but he can also play as an 8. Still very young and has lots to offer. Gives it his all and he is very professional. I wanted him to play this season, and still think he could do the job in the premier league. Would be a great signing for Rangers.

IMHO 

 

Great player. Great person. At Sunderland since he was a kid and was there final wkd as a supporter watching us get into Europe. 

 

Played under some of the worst excuses for ‘managers’ that exist in football ‘Liar’ Beale and Phil ‘Pookinson’

 

Helped the club out of league 1 to Prem an absolute class act and great addition to any club. 

 

I do love people who think that a player is 'guaranteed' to 'improve' because they're young. Or words to that effect. Some might, e.g. Fernandes, but he was clearly very good even from his youtube videos. Even with TE at the helm.

How many players do 'improve' dramatically and how many erase all the failings from their game e.g. poor first touch, needs too long on the ball, doesn't find the right areas in front of goal, is Che Adams, etc?

 

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

I do love people who think that a player is 'guaranteed' to 'improve' because they're young. Or words to that effect. Some might, e.g. Fernandes, but he was clearly very good even from his youtube videos. Even with TE at the helm.

How many players do 'improve' dramatically and how many erase all the failings from their game e.g. poor first touch, needs too long on the ball, doesn't find the right areas in front of goal, is Che Adams, etc?

 

 

 

 

Which of those comments said that he is guaranteed to improve because he is young ?

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How many times have we been linked with Liam Delap over the years? How many times has he gone somewhere else and failed to make the grade? 

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1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

How many times have we been linked with Liam Delap over the years? How many times has he gone somewhere else and failed to make the grade? 

Chelsea aside, which is a basket case of a football club/henge fund poss up, he’s not really failed to make the grade anywhere. He didn’t smash them in for Hull but looked okay and it was a development loan. Are you implying you wouldn’t have him at saints if offered?!

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10 hours ago, Kenilworthy1959 said:

All bids have to be framed within the insane concept that the ordinary Anderson is worth £119 million

You think Anderson is ordinary?  I think he’s excellent.

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34 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

You think Anderson is ordinary?  I think he’s excellent.

I think he's a bit over rated to be honest. Does his job which is a pretty basic one. For over 100 mill you'd want someone really dynamic who goes past opponents and causes havoc. Anderson is not a player who gets bums off seats. 

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38 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Southampton are keen for ‘no compromise and for the Northern bastards to pay up or move on’. @journalistsaintsfeedstoriesto

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1 hour ago, Appy said:

 

Thank god we dont have to endure that saga again. Did the Krasnodar owner not say before that he would only sanction a move to a top european league 🤔

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21 minutes ago, saintant said:

I think he's a bit over rated to be honest. Does his job which is a pretty basic one. For over 100 mill you'd want someone really dynamic who goes past opponents and causes havoc. Anderson is not a player who gets bums off seats. 

They're clearly signing him to be the Rodri replacement, and I think he could get to that level. Rodri does none of those things you mentioned and yet Man City were a significantly worse team when he was out, so if they've got the cash then he's worth it to them. Yes daft money but that's sportswashing for you...

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18 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Thank god we dont have to endure that saga again. Did the Krasnodar owner not say before that he would only sanction a move to a top european league 🤔

Just what I was remembering. Really glad they waited to get the move to a top league, and it not being all about the money. Glad we avoided this one.

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40 minutes ago, saintant said:

I think he's a bit over rated to be honest. Does his job which is a pretty basic one. For over 100 mill you'd want someone really dynamic who goes past opponents and causes havoc. Anderson is not a player who gets bums off seats. 

Brings Lawrie’s “lead violinists and road sweepers” to mind. City probably have a squad of lead violinists so need someone to do the donkey work.

From the little I’ve seen of Anderson though I think you’re doing him a disservice (although agree it seems a ludicrous sum to pay for him)

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26 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Thank god we dont have to endure that saga again. Did the Krasnodar owner not say before that he would only sanction a move to a top european league 🤔

But will they have to wait until next Friday for the owner to ratify it ? 
 

Recall the statement you’re referring to but more recently read that the player himself didn’t think he was “ready” for the physicality of playing in England. 
 

Definitely confine this to the archives with Oliver Bierhoff and a host of others. 

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7 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Okay here is a compromise Leeds, let's have a chat with that lad Piroe. 

To play where ?
I think the Piroe ship may have sailed. 

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5 hours ago, BarberSaint said:

I do love people who think that a player is 'guaranteed' to 'improve' because they're young. Or words to that effect. Some might, e.g. Fernandes, but he was clearly very good even from his youtube videos. Even with TE at the helm.

How many players do 'improve' dramatically and how many erase all the failings from their game e.g. poor first touch, needs too long on the ball, doesn't find the right areas in front of goal, is Che Adams, etc?

 

 

 

 

 

they are only guaranteed to improve if they’re hungry 

hence why they’re AKA YHGTIers

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1 hour ago, SWLondon Saint said:

They're clearly signing him to be the Rodri replacement, and I think he could get to that level. Rodri does none of those things you mentioned and yet Man City were a significantly worse team when he was out, so if they've got the cash then he's worth it to them. Yes daft money but that's sportswashing for you...

He's no Rodri.

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2 hours ago, saintant said:

I think he's a bit over rated to be honest. Does his job which is a pretty basic one. For over 100 mill you'd want someone really dynamic who goes past opponents and causes havoc. Anderson is not a player who gets bums off seats. 

You obviously missed his pass for Bellingham's goal against Croatia

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