AlexLaw76 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 14 minutes ago, saintant said: We're trying to build a side not weaken it with inferior materials that other clubs don't want. Guess we won’t be many ever again, then
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 hours ago Author Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, East Kent Saint said: Dobbin , not another Donkey 😄 He's definitely not a donkey. I watched him a lot at youth level cos he was in the same Everton U21 side as my nephew and they are still good friends. He's got great pace and acceleration, good close control and a good eye for a forward pass. He's played mostly on the left in his recent loans in the Championship but he's versatile and pops up with goals wherever he plays along the front 3. He wouldn't be a direct Stewart replacement because he's not that profile of player. We'd probably be looking to bring him in as backup/competition for both Leo and Fellows cos he can play on either side. Would be a decent signing IMO. 11 goals and 8 assists for PNE last season is pretty impressive. 14
UpweySaint Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: He's definitely not a donkey. I watched him a lot at youth level cos he was in the same Everton U21 side as my nephew and they are still good friends. He's got great pace and acceleration, good close control and a good eye for a forward pass. He's played mostly on the left in his recent loans in the Championship but he's versatile and pops up with goals wherever he plays along the front 3. He wouldn't be a direct Stewart replacement because he's not that profile of player. We'd probably be looking to bring him in as backup/competition for both Leo and Fellows cos he can play on either side. Would be a decent signing IMO. 11 goals and 8 assists for PNE last season is pretty impressive. Impressive stats in a middling side. The summary is helpful, thank you. 1
Badger Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, saintant said: Couldn't see Scienza in pre season test videos on official site or Charles. Bazunu was there though along with Diaz and Downs. I didn’t notice many (if any) of the foreign players in yesterday’s video but haven’t seen anything today. Was specifically looking for Scienza or Jander. Then someone pointed out that Downs was present. Was only hoping the three you mention were told to report back at an early stage so they (and a couple of others) could be told to find somewhere else and fuck off. * *that’s the Downs and BBD to reinvent themselves to have a great season.
qwertyell Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Badger said: I didn’t notice many (if any) of the foreign players in yesterday’s video but haven’t seen anything today. Was specifically looking for Scienza or Jander. Then someone pointed out that Downs was present. Was only hoping the three you mention were told to report back at an early stage so they (and a couple of others) could be told to find somewhere else and fuck off. * *that’s the Downs and BBD to reinvent themselves to have a great season. Jander was there, learning the Macarena. 1 6
Badger Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, qwertyell said: Jander was there, learning the Macarena. Okay thanks. 1
Badger Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said: He's definitely not a donkey. I watched him a lot at youth level cos he was in the same Everton U21 side as my nephew and they are still good friends. He's got great pace and acceleration, good close control and a good eye for a forward pass. He's played mostly on the left in his recent loans in the Championship but he's versatile and pops up with goals wherever he plays along the front 3. He wouldn't be a direct Stewart replacement because he's not that profile of player. We'd probably be looking to bring him in as backup/competition for both Leo and Fellows cos he can play on either side. Would be a decent signing IMO. 11 goals and 8 assists for PNE last season is pretty impressive. Interesting summary, but reading one of the press articles indicates Villa want c £10m for him. Which would be too much for a Scienza/Fellows back up or competition in my book. Devine looked from highlights seen a creative player who might have been capable of the Azaz role, but at £6m. The direct Stewart replacement is where I’d hope we’re looking to spend on. Not another short arse forward. 2
saintant Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Just now, Badger said: I didn’t notice many (if any) of the foreign players in yesterday’s video but haven’t seen anything today. Was specifically looking for Scienza or Jander. Then someone pointed out that Downs was present. Was only hoping the three you mention were told to report back at an early stage so they (and a couple of others) could be told to find somewhere else and fuck off. * *that’s the Downs and BBD to reinvent themselves to have a great season. Jander was there.
Badger Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 8 minutes ago, saintant said: Jander was there. Yes, thanks - since seen the photo provided by qwertyell. Pleased to see him back. 1
LocationRemot3 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Wouldn't bother with JWP. My top target is Mbappe. Looks decent at the World Cup. I reckon if Spors chucked in DD and BBD for a trade we would get a deal done. 2
gio1saints Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, DT said: Not sure we will have Scienza for that for long tbh Don’t need to be a rocket scientist to make a connection between this Dobbin chap and the obvious interest in Leo. 1
Saint Pete Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Shaping up to be an "interesting" summer for the Geordies. Already sold both Antony Gordon and Tonali for big money and now Bruno Guimaraes reported to have asked for a transfer with Arsenal rumoured to be waiting in the wings. If they are forced to sell him too, they will be sitting on a major wad of cash and will probably be held to ransom on deals to get in replacements as everyone will know they are desperate (and minted). Maybe we can get them interested in Charles to fill one of the midfield gaps to drive his price up more? 1
suewhistle Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Torino have added Ramsdale to their list of interest, but can't see it myself. They wouldn't even want to pay much of a loan fee.
pingpong Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago I wonder if we've considered a cheeky bid for Messi? He's getting on a bit but still has something left in the tank. He's short but talented. We could give him ownership of the club as part of the fee, maybe get a netflix deal. We need to think outside of the box. Alternatively, if we do go for a more traditional solution, tom cannon looks suitably mediocre.
Lighthouse Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, suewhistle said: Torino have added Ramsdale to their list of interest, but can't see it myself. They wouldn't even want to pay much of a loan fee. At least if Che Adams stays, that'll give Ramsdale confidence in training. 3
revolution saint Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 6 hours ago, Badger said: Archer Mk II Funnily enough Archer was my first thought when looking at his highlights from last season. Didn’t realise he was the one who scored when Peretz decided to go walkabout. Looks quite direct, plays off the shoulder and relies on his pace. That all looks fine when teams press you but if there’s no space behind or you can’t get the proper through ball then they look anonymous so can’t say it’s a link I’m that excited about. Here’s the https://youtu.be/nhisb9-DoXs?is=_y39qQAZOVBMvlGW
Dark Munster Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, LocationRemot3 said: Wouldn't bother with JWP. My top target is Mbappe. Looks decent at the World Cup. I reckon if Spors chucked in DD and BBD for a trade we would get a deal done. I wouldn't say no if we could get Mbappe, but given the choice I'd prefer Haaland.
Patrick Bateman Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: I wouldn't say no if we could get Mbappe, but given the choice I'd prefer Haaland. Neither have Championship experience though, I'd rather we try to sign Scotland's Che Adams. 2
Willo of Whiteley Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I’d take Dobbin, he’ll go to a top end Championship club, and I could see us paying £10m for him to compete with the likes of Azaz, Matsuki, Fellows and Scienza - it isn’t like we’re flush across all those positions. Edozie wasn’t really trusted enough, but we need direct wide players that are happy to run with the ball. I thought it was interesting that Alfie Devine (Tottenham) signed permanently for Preston for £5m, thought he’d have gone to a bigger club.
Football Special Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 14 hours ago, saintant said: Couldn't see Scienza in pre season test videos on official site or Charles. Bazunu was there though along with Diaz and Downs. Charles has extended time off due to playing in internationals for Northern Ireland in early June 2
Turkish Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: I’d take Dobbin, he’ll go to a top end Championship club, and I could see us paying £10m for him to compete with the likes of Azaz, Matsuki, Fellows and Scienza - it isn’t like we’re flush across all those positions. Edozie wasn’t really trusted enough, but we need direct wide players that are happy to run with the ball. I thought it was interesting that Alfie Devine (Tottenham) signed permanently for Preston for £5m, thought he’d have gone to a bigger club. I cant see us signing him unless at least one of them leaves. We've also got Edozie and Robinson for those positions, we're not going to be spending big money on an attacking midfielder when we already have 6 of them for 3 positions. 1
Kenilworthy1959 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Sheffield United are facing a winding up order. It might be worth making an offer for Bamford. While he has a reputation as a crock he played 29 times and scored 13 goals last season after joining them in November. 1
Saint86 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, revolution saint said: Funnily enough Archer was my first thought when looking at his highlights from last season. Didn’t realise he was the one who scored when Peretz decided to go walkabout. Looks quite direct, plays off the shoulder and relies on his pace. That all looks fine when teams press you but if there’s no space behind or you can’t get the proper through ball then they look anonymous so can’t say it’s a link I’m that excited about. Here’s the https://youtu.be/nhisb9-DoXs?is=_y39qQAZOVBMvlGW The first 3 clips of that video, he picks up the ball with a flat back 4 in front of him and scores a cracking goal. Reminds me a little bit of lallana when he had his championship promotion season with us - supporting the attack, good feet and off the ball movement, and a tidy finish. He also looks like he scores all kinds of goals - arriving late, edge of box curlers, headers, running off the defender etc. All of them good finishes as well. I reckon he could be used all across the front 4 for saints subject to formation. Given his proven Championship record to date for a young player, i wouldn't be upset if we did pay up £8-10M on him myself.
Markyruk Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Turkish said: Danny Ings is a free agent WE HAVE TO BRING HIM HOME He’s going to Leicester.
Turkish Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Markyruk said: He’s going to Leicester. Second free transfer we’ve fucked up absolute shambles AGAIN
gio1saints Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Turkish said: I cant see us signing him unless at least one of them leaves. We've also got Edozie and Robinson for those positions, we're not going to be spending big money on an attacking midfielder when we already have 6 of them for 3 positions. Precisely. This Dobbin forward chap looks like he scores goals - AND creates - Leo is I clearly the closest like for like- NOT CA, SE, TF, DD(!) JR, RS(!) or even FA. IF Leo departs Saints for alleged £25m it’s a hefty player trading profit - in just 12 mths. With returns like that it’s arguably a better, less financially risky, more manageable business model to stay in the Championship - and focus on producing “Leo Scienzas “ plus , bonus- get promoted , than any other way of prioritising operations. Buying Championship goalscorer and asset maker Dobbins in from Villa @ £10m and hoping with promotion his value too rockets up to £25m this time next year makes total long term business sense in that context. Supporters don’t want that. Supporters want get promoted play beautifully stay in EPL buy flash players pay big bucks become global giants get Europe get to Finals. Owners want : stop losing money start making money and reduce risk stop making it a rollercoaster turn it into a money making machine.
revolution saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Saint86 said: The first 3 clips of that video, he picks up the ball with a flat back 4 in front of him and scores a cracking goal. Reminds me a little bit of lallana when he had his championship promotion season with us - supporting the attack, good feet and off the ball movement, and a tidy finish. He also looks like he scores all kinds of goals - arriving late, edge of box curlers, headers, running off the defender etc. All of them good finishes as well. I reckon he could be used all across the front 4 for saints subject to formation. Given his proven Championship record to date for a young player, i wouldn't be upset if we did pay up £8-10M on him myself. Fair enough, we all see different things although I'm struggling with the Lallana comparison.
Suhari Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Turkish said: Danny Ings is a free agent WE HAVE TO BRING HIM HOME His days of hairing around a football pitch have long-since receded. 4
Fabrice29 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 59 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Precisely. This Dobbin forward chap looks like he scores goals - AND creates - Leo is I clearly the closest like for like- NOT CA, SE, TF, DD(!) JR, RS(!) or even FA. IF Leo departs Saints for alleged £25m it’s a hefty player trading profit - in just 12 mths. With returns like that it’s arguably a better, less financially risky, more manageable business model to stay in the Championship - and focus on producing “Leo Scienzas “ plus , bonus- get promoted , than any other way of prioritising operations. Buying Championship goalscorer and asset maker Dobbins in from Villa @ £10m and hoping with promotion his value too rockets up to £25m this time next year makes total long term business sense in that context. Supporters don’t want that. Supporters want get promoted play beautifully stay in EPL buy flash players pay big bucks become global giants get Europe get to Finals. Owners want : stop losing money start making money and reduce risk stop making it a rollercoaster turn it into a money making machine. Nothing comparable about Scienza and Dobbin in terms of playing style from what I can see. Don’t think that aligns with being a replacement at all. Dobbin played and scored against us twice last season both from starting centrally from what I can tell. Most his clips show him doing his effective work from central positions too. Suspect with Archer wanting out and Stewart going this is a nice flexible attacking option that allows us to invest once to cover those two and Azaz…if it’s true. Edited 3 hours ago by Fabrice29 1
ally_uk Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Regarding Scienza where is he? And Wellington didn't see either in preseason videos.
Gloucester Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Suhari said: His days of hairing around a football pitch have long-since receded. Chances of a new club in the top two divisions is receding, to tell the bald truth. He’s been on the wrong end some hairline offside decisions though. A few cuddles from Russ will help him though as long as Danny doesn’t get hair envy, Edited 1 hour ago by Gloucester Saint
BERMUDASAINT Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago (edited) https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/26265695.southampton-legend-fonte-lands-coaching-role-premier-league-club/ Not sure if already posted, I wonder if SFC and Jose will ever cross paths again? Edited 37 minutes ago by BERMUDASAINT
OldNick Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago 19 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Chances of a new club in the top two divisions is receding, to tell the bald truth. He’s been on the wrong end some hairline offside decisions though. A few cuddles from Russ will help him though as long as Danny doesn’t get hair envy, Splitting hairs on that
Saint Fan CaM Posted 21 minutes ago Posted 21 minutes ago Bit quiet on the transfer news - lots of weird speculation though.
Pengi Posted 5 minutes ago Posted 5 minutes ago 5 hours ago, Kenilworthy1959 said: Sheffield United are facing a winding up order. It might be worth making an offer for Bamford. While he has a reputation as a crock he played 29 times and scored 13 goals last season after joining them in November. We’re very good at signing crocks
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