Tonda Eckert

[Give it to Ron]

16 minutes ago, whelk said:

10 games

Touchline or stadium 

[Window Cleaner]

Luckily for us. Don't rate Howe. 

 

 

[Green]

31 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

Luckily for us. Don't rate Howe. 

 

 

I don’t know how serious the links were but some discussion about how we could have appointed Howe in the first summer of SR when we held on to  Hasenhuttl, delaying the sacking before getting Jones on board.

Also linked when we appointed Adkins 

[VectisSaint]

1 hour ago, Give it to Ron said:

Touchline or stadium 

More likely 'all footballing activity'. Stadium/touchline is not much different, and do not reflect what he 'did'.

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

10 games

Fact or your estimate?

[Nordic Saint]

11 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

More likely 'all footballing activity'. Stadium/touchline is not much different, and do not reflect what he 'did'.

What did he 'do'? It was a club scouting activity involving the actions and knowledge of scouting staff as well as others at the club, contravening a new 72-hour rule, for which the club already received a ridiculously harsh punishment. 

Such severe punishments are being handed out by the EFL and the FA, not because they are appropriate, but because they are good publicity for the organisations involved and popular with the media and fans of rival clubs, especially those in the Middlesbrough and Portsmouth areas.

[Convict Colony]

2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

They have replaced him with what looks to me like a Tonda-alike

was on about jassle when he was at rb salzburg, will be interesting to watch, i dont rate howe or his mgmt skills.

[Window Cleaner]

2 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Madness, undermining Howe at each turn and now replacing him with some bloke that was a manager in the Saudi Pro League. Hope it all ends in tears for the Sportswashing FC fans.

Howe's results last season were unsatisfactory to say the least. True they sold players but who could say if Isaak would have done any better at Newcastle than he did at Liverpool, might not have got the same injury I suppose.

But Newcastle last season showed that they are (or were) an ageing side towards the end of the road. Change was necessary.

As for their potential new manager who knows what that will (or would) bring.

[Ted Bates Statue]

2 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Touchline or stadium 

Banned from the entire planet. But actually it's not for 10 games, it's 10 million seconds, which I grudgingly accept as a fair punishment

Edited 2 hours ago by Ted Bates Statue

[Give it to Ron]

1 hour ago, VectisSaint said:

More likely 'all footballing activity'. Stadium/touchline is not much different, and do not reflect what he 'did'.

Big difference between stadium and touchline he would still manage on match day in dressing room etc if just touchline.

[Window Cleaner]

5 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Banned from the entire planet. But actually it's not for 10 games, it's 10 million seconds, which I grudgingly accept as a fair punishment

That's only a bit less than 4 months actually, so not that bad.

[HKsaint]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

10 games

For discrimination charge 

[Ted Bates Statue]

10 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

That's only a bit less than 4 months actually, so not that bad.

Still think anything more than a 3 match touchline ban would be overkill, and over 5-6 matches we'd be looking for a new manager. 

7 minutes ago, HKsaint said:

For discrimination charge 

I disagree, as that would be classified as aggravated breach and come under rule E3.2. The reason for my relative optimism is that he's only been charged under E3.1 which would seemingly relate to the act of spying and not the miscellaneous innuendo around bullying. 

[Window Cleaner]

3 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Still think anything more than a 3 match touchline ban would be overkill, and over 5-6 matches we'd be looking for a new manager. 

I disagree, as that would be classified as aggravated breach and come under rule E3.2. The reason for my relative optimism is that he's only been charged under E3.1 which would seemingly relate to the act of spying and not the miscellaneous innuendo around bullying. 

The charges refer to misconduct and bringing the game into disrepute. No discrimination apparently.

But misconduct is a big basket....

[die Mannyschaft]

On 29/07/2026 at 13:38, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Let’s be honest, it all depends on if any of the panel are good buddies with Gibbo

The whole is related to what Boro have said at start and what they wanted as punishment.  No one countered thus at EFL. SKY or main pundits who just want Saints to collapse or get relegated. 

[M271]

I know that this is in relation to E3.2 and discrimination but interesting that the minimum 10 match player ban is reduced to 6 if has admitted to the breach at an early opportunity. IMO Tondas ‘offence’ is not as serious as this so should not be worse than this and hopefully less severe. 🤞
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4nlpwq1qyo

 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, M271 said:

I know that this is in relation to E3.2 and discrimination but interesting that the minimum 10 match player ban is reduced to 6 if has admitted to the breach at an early opportunity. IMO Tondas ‘offence’ is not as serious as this so should not be worse than this and hopefully less severe. 🤞
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4nlpwq1qyo

 

And that's making it harsher presumably from the start of the season. Tonda has three instances though.

[Nordic Saint]

16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And that's making it harsher presumably from the start of the season. Tonda has three instances though.

The Club does and the Club has already been punished. He is just one of many employees of the Club, for which the owner is responsible, including scouts and analysts. He didn't personally break the 72-hour rule and, by all accounts he didn't instruct anyone to break it. If it happened 73 hours before the game, no rule would have been broken. In a year when FIFA were telling teams they must make their final training sessions open to the public or face punishment, it might just as well have been Middlesbrough who were being punished for a petty breach of an arbitrary rule. It's hardly a serious crime like violence on the pitch.

But, the FA will want the publicity that a big headline punishment will garner. Severe punishments are always popular, even if they are inappropriate. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Nordic Saint

[Lighthouse]

49 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

by all accounts he didn't instruct anyone to break it

I think you’ll find he did.

 

49 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

If it happened 73 hours before the game, no rule would have been broken.

Yep, that’s the general idea of having a rule.

 

50 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

It's hardly a serious crime like violence on the pitch.

It was a deliberate ploy to cheat an opponent out of a game potentially worth £200m. I don’t think the ‘no big deal’ argument is going to wash with anybody who isn’t a Saints fan.

54 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

But, the FA will want the publicity that a big headline punishment will garner. Severe punishments are always popular, even if they are inappropriate. 

Absolutely baseless hysteria. The FA have absolutely nothing to gain from punishing Tonda.

[egg]

4 hours ago, whelk said:

10 games

The Canada ban was 12 months, and the average matches played by a female international team in 12 months is 8-12 games. Your 10 is bang in the middle of that. 

[egg]

1 hour ago, Nordic Saint said:

The Club does and the Club has already been punished. He is just one of many employees of the Club, for which the owner is responsible, including scouts and analysts. He didn't personally break the 72-hour rule and, by all accounts he didn't instruct anyone to break it. If it happened 73 hours before the game, no rule would have been broken. In a year when FIFA were telling teams they must make their final training sessions open to the public or face punishment, it might just as well have been Middlesbrough who were being punished for a petty breach of an arbitrary rule. It's hardly a serious crime like violence on the pitch.

But, the FA will want the publicity that a big headline punishment will garner. Severe punishments are always popular, even if they are inappropriate. 

Reference to the club punishment is irrelevant. Tonda will be punished for what Tonda has done. 

Re the rest, what Lighthouse said. 

[SW5 SAINT]

I think it’s unlikely that Tonda said to Salt go and spy on Middlesbrough, and make sure you do it within 72 hours of kick off..!

[Window Cleaner]

43 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

 

 

 

Absolutely baseless hysteria. The FA have absolutely nothing to gain from punishing Tonda.

Well apart from discouraging the same sort of endeavour in the future. Establish a base line punishment for future reference, avoid well Bielsa wasn't punished by the FA sort of stuff.

Footballing jurisprudence if you will.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said:

I think it’s unlikely that Tonda said to Salt go and spy on Middlesbrough, and make sure you do it within 72 hours of kick off..!

Why is it?

[trousers]

16 minutes ago, egg said:

The Canada ban was 12 months, and the average matches played by a female international team in 12 months is 8-12 games. Your 10 is bang in the middle of that. 

Although, FWIW, Canada only played 3 competitive matches in that 12 month period. #likeforlike

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Nordic Saint said:

But, the FA will want the publicity that a big headline punishment will garner. Severe punishments are always popular, even if they are inappropriate. 

This makes no sense whatsoever.

[Window Cleaner]

3 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said:

I think it’s unlikely that Tonda said to Salt go and spy on Middlesbrough, and make sure you do it within 72 hours of kick off..!

Of course it isn't. Schedules were made, hôtels and flights booked. Salt was also supposed to return the follow ing day.

[Wade Garrett]

Any chance the FA can put us out of our misery soon?

How fucking long do they need?

[Window Cleaner]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

Any chance the FA can put us out of our misery soon?

How fucking long do they need?

Well I expect they anticipated that he'd have been sacked long ago and keeping him on is a problem of our own création that has no bearing on their procédures. All their investigations take time.