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Yet again the name of Portsmouth Football Club will be dragged through the mud

 

Anyone else and you would be wondering why they missed out "good".

 

The self admission that they have used convers to get round the ban on Snoras is a very good find but you wonder about the regulatory authorities if they have not found it themselves. As it is "payday loans" is as close as we get to legal loan sharking in this country so guess we should not be surprised.

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i really do love the fact that it's saints fans actively trying to scupper this cesspool of a club. And that post linking it all together is worthy of the closing scenes of Poirot! Now could we please make sure the Guardian reporter, FSA and Tax Office receive that so we can add more nails to their coffin.

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Oh, and as an aside... for those worried about preserving pages associating Antonov with CSI, have no fear. Whenever anything is published on the internet, it is likely there for all eternity. No matter how much you might try to suppress it, you cannot take it back, for the world wide web will carry its indelible mark long after you're gone.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, all hail the almighty Wayback Machine ...

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20110722043401/http://www.converssport.com/structure

 

Hehheeee, back from training, and I've reading the latest posts and actually thinking about hoe long things are cached for: not so much worried that somebody somewhere hasn't saved a page, but how accessible they might be.

 

Thanks!

 

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This thread should be used as a teaching aid to all media students to highlight how citizen media can identify and keep track of fraudulent individuals and corporations,we have had the Arab Spring is this the begining of the POMSKI Winter.As for locking it? No Chance! it is a constantly evolving database of evidence that points to Incompetence and/or Corruption within English Football at the highest level.The British taxpayer deserves answers,over to you Mr Lampitt.

 

I assume Baj and/or Steve are archiving it somewhere safe and in triplicate....? Remember the great "database crash" of 2008..... ;-)

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Anyone had a google of Chris Akers' past too?

 

This is what I found:

 

http://www.bournelocal.co.uk/sport/profile_chris_akers_1_2401136

 

He was chairman of communications firm EuroTelecom Inc, which collapsed in 2001 only 10 months after floating on the Alternative Investment Market. Nothing ever came of a Stock Market probe.

 

and

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2858370/Zimet-tells-court-Akers-was-contact-with-Regan.html

 

Chris Akers, the entrepreneur and former Leeds United chairman, yesterday became the latest high-profile City figure to get caught up in the Andrew Regan corruption trial.

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Underneath the lolage, I think the really BIG story that we have broken on here today is actually the link between the external consultant for the FAPP and CSI.

 

Read carefully. I don't think it says he advises the FA on FAPP . Probably he just advises clubs how to present their potential new owners in a favourable light.

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dubai_phil

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OK panic over, everything is OK

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/portsmouth/8910939/Europe-wide-arrest-warrant-issued-for-Portsmouth-joint-owner-Vladimir-Antanov.html

“We are operationally unaffected by Snoras Bank entering temporary administration. CSI has been solely financed through the private wealth of its owners.

 

So CSI is funded by the Private Wealth of it's owners, not by Snoras. Bet that comes as a relief then

 

Dear Vlad can you do an online transfer for this month's wages please?

 

Hmmm probably not so easy while banged up

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dubai_phil

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So CSI brought much needed stability to Nott Arf Krap.

 

Yup 5 months worth, that has to be a record for their recent history to be fair

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/portsmouth/8549567/Convers-Sports-Initiatives-complete-takeover-of-Portsmouth.html

 

(WARNING - Article contains offensive image - ie TCWTB celebrating being saved again)

 

 

"We have conducted extensive due diligence and held detailed negotiations with a number of clubs in the English Premier League, Championship, League One and Scottish Premier League over the past twelve months," he said.

 

Yeah "They got the club Debt Free" in their words - pretty extensive DD then

 

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06/01/2011 07:54 PM

 

 

After a number of false dawns at Fratton Park, it would appear that these new owners have the financial clout to stabilise the club, and see it move foreward, retaining its position as top team on the South Coast.

 

 

 

Yup you got that one nailed down dude

 

 

Meanwhile just so TSW elite know it is all true the Grauniad version

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/23/portsmouth-vladimir-antonov-arrest-warrant

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A slightly ironic thought entered my head when reading that piece....Pompey fans know more about their owners than we do...

 

The article talks about fans having blind faith in what plans the owners have/had for their club, which is where we are, philosophically....

 

Then the comparison popped out of my head as quickly as it popped in.

 

The way my mind 'works' worries me at times... ;-)

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A slightly ironic thought entered my head when reading that piece....Pompey fans know more about their owners than we do...

 

The article talks about fans having blind faith in what plans the owners have/had for their club, which is where we are, philosophically....

 

Then the comparison popped out of my head as quickly as it popped in.

 

The way my mind 'works' worries me at times... ;-)

 

Don't worry Trousers.

 

Only Pompey fans have CONTINUALLY believed what they've been told.

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dubai_phil

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OK don't get too hung up by FSA and Vlad.

 

SNORAS wasn't allowed a Banking Licence by FSA is what I think can be concluded IF you read everything carefully. But from what I could find wfb DO have a licence.

 

Now how the FSA would look on matters if it could be proven that wfb was just a front for Snoras is another matter but that would take a different type of investigation.

 

The tasty treat is still that cached web page though. It drops Roman and Convers Group (who own CSI) into the mess

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OK don't get too hung up by FSA and Vlad.

 

SNORAS wasn't allowed a Banking Licence by FSA is what I think can be concluded IF you read everything carefully. But from what I could find wfb DO have a licence.

 

Now how the FSA would look on matters if it could be proven that wfb was just a front for Snoras is another matter but that would take a different type of investigation.

 

The tasty treat is still that cached web page though. It drops Roman and Convers Group (who own CSI) into the mess

 

Thing is Phil, a Consumer Credit Licence like ConversMoney has is only put in place again once the individuals have been checked out in a similar fashion to the FSA (I know this because I've got a CCL licence and FSA approval).

 

It's a lot of hoops to jump through - my only assumption on this is that Mr A isn't named as a Director (as all directors that the company has have to be checked out before the company gets the CCL).

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Don't worry Trousers.

 

Only Pompey fans have CONTINUALLY believed what they've been told.

 

Yeah but, no but, yeah but.... We share an element of blind faith in what we've been told about the future of our club. Don't get me wrong, I place much more credence on what we've been told about our owners than what Pompey have been told about theirs but that doesn't alter the fact that most of us "believe what we are being told".

 

Of course, the difference is we have no reason to believe otherwise.

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Thing is Phil, a Consumer Credit Licence like ConversMoney has is only put in place again once the individuals have been checked out in a similar fashion to the FSA (I know this because I've got a CCL licence and FSA approval).

 

It's a lot of hoops to jump through - my only assumption on this is that Mr A isn't named as a Director (as all directors that the company has have to be checked out before the company gets the CCL).

 

Correct.

 

IF you look at the wfb website you can see that Vlad is mentioned as....

 

A Manager

 

Roman is a Director

 

So licenced they are. Rules bent? Possibly.

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stepping back from the comedy of it all, we've been here before.

The blatant criminality and insolvent trading, still unpunished.

 

Will anything be different this time?

Experience suggests not.

 

For sure, Vlad's street cred is shot to bits unless he is cleared of all charges, and there are a lot of charges that go back a long time, so his part in this comedy may be over.

 

That leaves the village simpleton bouncer in a suit, the Leeds man with a dodgy history, and Lampitt.

They will continue to spin positivity, but I suspect the access to funds may be an issue.

This would see a decline in the team, and that could be the only punishment.

 

I'm not expecting the football authorities to suddenly do their job, or the courts to ignore the dodgy handshake that seems to have kept them afloat thus far.

So it's really bad news for them, but they have had bad news before, and let's remember they are debt-free with nothing historical to bother them.

 

The PR side? They no longer appeal to honest businessmen so damage to the brand doesn't matter.

 

 

The real test is April - Saints away, and a CVA.

 

Time to do some maths again, my recollection is they lost something like a million over six months recently and pretended they hadn't by not paying Ben Haim's wages?

That said, it was enough to fool the Russians' due diligence!

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Meanwhile just so TSW elite know it is all true the Grauniad version

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/23/portsmouth-vladimir-antonov-arrest-warrant

 

Should events proceed as far as a successful prosecution against Antonov – and a conviction for what are so far only allegations is by no means guaranteed – he would fall foul of the Football League's owners' and directors' test.

That states that anyone found guilty by a competent court of an offence involving a "dishonest act", even if the jurisdiction is outside England and Wales, cannot hold directorial office or significant equity in a Football League club.

 

So does that mean that if Antonov is found guilty that he would have to find someone else to sell his share of CSI to or that CSI would have to find someone else to buy pompey?

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On the footballing front, the three loans are coming... http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/duo_arrive_as_pompey_eye_emergency_hat_trick_1_3274974. All from WBA

 

But it's the first comment that made me laugh...

Great News and hopefully will stop all the stupid panic on here. A club about to fold does not get in players simple as that. Also if Antonov has been removed from the CSI web site then that is also GOOD. It means his connections may well have been severed to protect CSI's interests. Good news all round................................... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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But it's the first comment that made me laugh...

 

Great News and hopefully will stop all the stupid panic on here. A club about to fold does not get in players simple as that. Also if Antonov has been removed from the CSI web site then that is also GOOD. It means his connections may well have been severed to protect CSI's interests. Good news all round................................... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

 

Yes because everyone knows that even though you own 75% of a company having your name taken off the website makes so much difference.

 

Of course if he is innocent and prepared to clear his name why remove it at all? Plus everyone knows his position with CSI and pompey so airbrushing him off the websites just looks like an admission of guilt.

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Long time lurker, first time poster..

 

Just a little snipper, picked up about half an hour ago:

 

Baranauskas and Antonov and handed the passport in London to local government and argued that not going anywhere to flee from the UK, reported "Respublika".

 

Former "Snoras" Chairman of the Board and the second largest shareholder Baranauskas newspaper claimed that they fear to return to Lithuania, and admitted that they could ask for political asylum in Britain.

 

http://tinyurl.com/cx2ggd5

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Long time lurker, first time poster..

 

Just a little snipper, picked up about half an hour ago:

 

http://tinyurl.com/cx2ggd5

 

Full translation:

 

Lithuanian commercial banks taken over by "Snoras" former major shareholders, Vladimir Antonov, and Raymond Baranauskas in the UK, on ​​Thursday reported the Lithuanian newspaper "Respublika".

 

Baranauskas is Antonov and handed the passport in London local government and argues that not going anywhere to flee from the UK, reported "Respublika".

 

Former "Snoras" Chairman of the Board and the second largest shareholder Baranauskas newspaper claimed that they fear to return to Lithuania, and admitted that he could ask for political asylum in Britain.

 

"I suppose I really need to think about it seriously," interview, "Respublika" said Baranauskas, in answer to the question of possible political asylum in Britain.

 

Already the argument goes, the Lithuanian Prosecutor General Darius Whale on Wednesday signed the European Union (EU) warrant "Snoras" the former major shareholders Antonov and Baranauskas detention. General's statement says that the Antonov, and Baranauskas allegations of misappropriation of property on a large scale, and falsification of documents, but Baranauskas - also on the accounting data distortion and abuse of office.

 

The Latvian National Police chief Ints Ķuze said on Tuesday that the Antonov, who was a "Latvian Savings Bank" Chairman of the Board, has been declared suspects and decides on his call for a search. Detained in the "Latvian Savings Bank" former board members, but the former Board Chairman Ivar Priedītis arrested.

 

November 16, the Lithuanian government nationalized 100% Bank "Snoras" shares, which a controlling interest - 68.1% of shares - owned Antonov, while 25.31% - Baranauskas. Lithuania's central bank received information from abroad that "Snoras" lack of security assets of more than one billion litas (204 million lats) value.

 

The Latvian Financial and Capital Market Commission Board on November 21 decided to stay "Snoras" subsidiaries "Latvian Savings Bank" of all financial services. Decision was made based on the findings of the shortfall of funds in the bank.

 

"Snoras" owns slightly more than 60% of the "Latvian Savings Bank" shares. After the asset size of "Latvian Savings Bank" in late September was the ninth largest of the 31 Latvian banks.

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"Vladimir Aleksandrovich Antonov, you have pleaded guilty to the charges brought by this court, and it is now my duty to pass sentence. You are an habitual criminal, who accepts arrest as an occupational hazard, and presumably accepts imprisonment in the same casual manner. We therefore feel constrained to commit you to the maximum term allowed for these offences — you will go to prison for five years."

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"Vladimir Aleksandrovich Antonov, you have pleaded guilty to the charges brought by this court, and it is now my duty to pass sentence. You are an habitual criminal, who accepts arrest as an occupational hazard, and presumably accepts imprisonment in the same casual manner. We therefore feel constrained to commit you to the maximum term allowed for these offences — you will go to prison for five years."

 

Ha, like it :-)

 

Can any of you photoshop whizz kids do anything with this:

 

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"Vladimir Aleksandrovich Antonov, you have pleaded guilty to the charges brought by this court, and it is now my duty to pass sentence. You are an habitual criminal, who accepts arrest as an occupational hazard, and presumably accepts imprisonment in the same casual manner. We therefore feel constrained to commit you to the maximum term allowed for these offences — you will remain as Poopey's owner, for five years."

 

Made a slight correction for you! ;)

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they are even bending the meaning of political asylum as most would see it. Fleeing from the arms of the law seems a little different to me, than fleeing from a foreign court in fear of your life due to political beliefs.

Andrew Pomfrett at the FL should be put through FPPT as he has overseen and deflected any attempt by fans to get explanations of their actions, by allowing such people through their 'new FPPT'

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Getting yet another dodgy owner isnt just co-incidence, it proves that there is no honest, legal and decent potential owner out there for them. At some point the FA, courts or somebody will have to decide whether or not the club can be recovered. Given the lack of assets, numerous legacy issues, a severely compromised brand, small fanbase and continuing losses its hard to see how they could.

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Getting yet another dodgy owner isnt just co-incidence, it proves that there is no honest, legal and decent potential owner out there for them. At some point the FA, courts or somebody will have to decide whether or not the club can be recovered. Given the lack of assets, numerous legacy issues, a severely compromised brand, small fanbase and continuing losses its hard to see how they could.

 

Yes that is correct, and what a fantastic situation we (expectedly) now find ourselves in, chuffing marvelous.

 

Pompey are now a skate fish thats been pulled out of the ocean and tossed on the poop deck, its kicking and flapping about and slowly dying whilst starting to stink - eventually some one will have to come along and put it out of its misery

 

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Shouldnt we be hearing from the Lithuanian government today? I believe they said they should have greater detail on the extent of Vlad the impalers criminal activity for this Thursday...

 

November 16, the Lithuanian government nationalized 100% Bank "Snoras" shares, which a controlling interest - 68.1% of shares - owned Antonov, while 25.31% - Baranauskas. Lithuania's central bank received information from abroad that "Snoras" lack of security assets of more than one billion litas (204 million lats) value.

 

... ive said it before and il say it again...:

 

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am I in heaven? Thank you skate fc, love it... PMSL

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Full translation:

 

Lithuanian commercial banks taken over by "Snoras" former major shareholders, Vladimir Antonov, and Raymond Baranauskas in the UK, on ​​Thursday reported the Lithuanian newspaper "Respublika".

 

Baranauskas is Antonov and handed the passport in London local government and argues that not going anywhere to flee from the UK, reported "Respublika".

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We were hoping for hellicopters, dogs and a sweeny style car chase at 90, or an OJ Simpson 20mph chase round the back streets of Nottarf :)....

..... ending in Langstone harbour with him running into the mud persued by 3 hungry alsatians....

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Gruffalo nice job!!

 

Some intresting tweets brom Antonov; Mocking other banks, getting crabby over Saab / EIB and laughing at people calling him a criminal.

 

Additionally nothing since 1st November (From a frequent tweeter) If he knew this was coming, that's 3 weeks to prepare (I will leave the definition of "prepare" down to personal choice)

 

http://twitter.com/#!/vladantonov1975

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