SaintRichmond Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 That's a bit disrespectful to her, I feel. It seems fairly common knowledge that they want to keep Mauricio and offered him a deal some weeks ago. If he doesn't want to be here, fine. Same for any player. This club needs a period of stability and if it can be provided in the Premier League, that is superb. You don't need to look too far for examples of clubs who have it far worse than us. Lets judge her based on her own era, by that I mean post-Cortese. Also I'd find it incredibly hard to ever tear into the Liebherr duo after everything they have done for us in the last five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Katharina. I promise to get two season tickets next season if you promise to cull some of the more complete divs we have as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 She is the one who has been putting the money in since our League One days. What a dicksplash you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Katharina. I promise to get two season tickets next season if you promise to cull some of the more complete divs we have as fans. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was Wind it in. It is her club now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Where is this? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Katharina. I promise to get two season tickets next season if you promise to cull some of the more complete divs we have as fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Be careful what you wish for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I predict a riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 When has she said this? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Priceless! MP decides he doesn't want to be here and the vitriol comes out for KL whose family have put this club where it is today using their own money. Staggering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was You're showing a fair amount of disrespect commenting on a lady that none of us know and her ability to follow her late father's intentions. Football messageboard or not, wind your neck in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was Actually you disrespectful little **** that is exactly what her Fathers project was. Cortese's remit from Markus was to make us a mid table Premier league team. Cortese said he couldn't stop there. So yet again you have made yourself look like a bell end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 She is the one who has been putting the money in since our League One days. What a dicksplash you are. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Don't blame Kat, blame Poch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was Wasn't the five year project to get to the PL? correct me If I'm wrong but that has been achieved. Doubt ML had time to put another plan after that together and if he did I doubt he told some knob like you what the plan was...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Blaming Katherina at this early stage is just ridiculous. Just wait and see what happens, that is all we can do as a fan. No person is better than the club. We thought all was gone when Adkins got the sack, but look what happened the following season! We only went and probably had the best season a Saints fan has seen in a long, long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I guess I could be mistaken, and I'm sure there is some counter argument, but wasn't it Kats money, albeit inherited, that got us out of league 1, through the championship and up to 8th in the top flight? If you want to know ever least sinew and get statements from the club every two minutes then what you need is a fan owned club, but I seem to recall that window of opportunity closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 This op gets worse every time I read it (and I have to keep reading it because I can't quite believe it was posted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Classic Richmond. Doesn't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Classic Richmond. Doesn't have a clue. If I was him I'd change my username - no coming back from that post, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was Or.... Saint RICHMOND, please go away, YOU simple-HEADED retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 We owe the Liebherrs everything, any personal attacks on Katharina are a total disgrace. If Pochitino is so desparate to join Spurs, we are better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 It takes a lot to get a united response on this board. I'll give OP credit for that at least. Other than that it's contemptible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Another one to add to my ignore list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Pretty sure it was the trust fund that Markus left Nicolina that we've used since league one, overseeing the 5 year plan. Maybe only now Katharina is having to dip into her pocket? This. She only became the owner last year. Prior to that the Club and following the sad death of Markus the club was owned and run by the Trustees and Estate of Markus Liebherr, that is not the same thing. She may have put money in last summer, that is open to conjecture. Swiss inheritance law is complex and it takes a long time before the probate process is completed and ownership is passed. I even suspect that Cortese was one of the trustees, but of that I cannot be sure. KL also wanted to keep Cortese, something else that is clear, but on her terms which were not what Cortese wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Crawl back into your hole Richmond your becoming very tedious now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel Yes along with her : " no point keeping someone who doesnt want to stay" " many applications received already" " few irons in the fire" " take our time and get the right man" " radio station and catering the envy of the Premiership" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Cortese's remit from Markus was to make us a mid table Premier league team. Hi Gemmel....interesting, I don't think I've seen Markus's "end game" target posted on here before? (perhaps it has and I've missed it?). I've always wondered if we'd ever know whether or not Katherina was matching or curtailing her father's vision for the club. If it's it's true that Markus never saw us being more than a mid-table club (and I have no reason to doubt what you say) and Katherina is simple following her father's wishes, then we were never going to be in a position to retain our best players, Pochettino or Cortese as they have higher aspirations than the club that Markus bought and that Katharina inherited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 Actually, I have to say that the approach that Katharina has had has been respectful, and sensible. Personally I could not really ask for a beer owner with regards to the running of the club. Loving Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 What a bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 26 May, 2014 Share Posted 26 May, 2014 I'm just waiting for Scooby Doo and ****gy to unmask Katharina and reveal her true identity to be, Rupert Lowe. He'll then say, "That Football Club would've been mine if it wasn't for you meddling kids." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was On a board with an ever increasing quantity of mongs, bedwetters, and downright f***ing squeezers, you sir, have just taken the cake. Regardless of what happens this week, next month, between now and August, the club will continue. Pull your head in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I'm actually quite shocked at the response to this post. Don't shoot me... yet!! Firstly, I don't agree with Richmond that you can at his stage round on Liebherr and criticise her as he has done. As people have pointed out there are many good things for which we can express major gratitude to the Liebherr family. Now is the time for watching, waiting and hoping, not rash petulance. Nevertheless, there are many here criticising Redmond who, if they are honest, have made more than their fair share of rash petulant criticisms of the club. Secondly, I can understand to some degree Richmond's frustration at the thought that just as things were looking really very good we may have lost the manager that has put us into such a great position as we now find ourselves (though much credit has got to go to many others including our academy coaches). I challenge anyone to honestly say they aren't wondering whether if Cortese were still here, Poch wouldn't even be talking to Spurs (with the exception of the ITKers who always know everything and should be worshipped for their incredible insight). In short, though Redmond may have spoken far too rashly, I'm sure we ALL feel very saddened at the likelihood that Poch will leave and a little frustrated that the unbelievable dream that we have been having could be under threat - the dream that we maybe had an owner, director and manager who all shared the fans aspirations; the dream that maybe, just maybe, we culd, like Atletico Madrid in Spain, rise up to challenge the elite of English football. For that reason, I'm suggesting that maybe we can cut the guy a bit of slack and let's wait and see what happens and hope and pray that this Krueger guy will have more of a clue about football than we suspect and that the dream might not be over - that Katherina may actually be making right decisions, that Cortese may have been pushing the club to get somewhere far faster than was realistic and that those in charge of OUR club do still have aspirations to achieve more than mid-table mediocrity. In short, I am saying that Redmond has been rash in saying what he has said at this time, but such rashness is perhaps the result of an aspiration that I hope we all share - that Southampton FC will continue to push onwards and upwards and to become a force to be reckoned with in English football. Now is neither the time for rash statements, but nor is it the time to round on a fellow fan who we don't know and give him hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 27 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 27 May, 2014 That's a bit disrespectful to her, I feel. It seems fairly common knowledge that they want to keep Mauricio and offered him a deal some weeks ago. If he doesn't want to be here, fine. Same for any player. This club needs a period of stability and if it can be provided in the Premier League, that is superb. You don't need to look too far for examples of clubs who have it far worse than us. Lets judge her based on her own era, by that I mean post-Cortese. Also I'd find it incredibly hard to ever tear into the Liebherr duo after everything they have done for us in the last five years. Katharina "honoured" her Father's Five Year Plan ( Project ) Once that finished, it was "her rules" , which did NOT aspire to anything like Markus's OK, she may want to keep Pochettino, but that of course depends on HER plans for the Club. That was the same scenario as for Cortese. She said she tried to keep him, but Failed for the same reason as she has Failed with Pochettino, AMBITION IMHO, Cortese wanted to continue Markus's "dream" of advancing SFC further UP the Football scale, which of course means/meant more INVESTMENT in Quality Players It should be painfully obvious to everybody that those aspirations are NOT shared by Katharina Leibherr That is why Cortese "left", that is why Pochettino is leaving, and that is why Players will follow suit Pochettino is only "in advanced talks" with THFC because SFC gave them permission ( there are Rules that even they have to follow ), so they did not try very hard, or most likely, the New Project offered to Pochettino was just a watered down version of Markus's original Dream Funny thing about Les Reed, I've always said he has the "Albatros" syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I'm not shocked by the response to Richmond. He sounds like a right knicker p#####g melt to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Actually you disrespectful little **** that is exactly what her Fathers project was. Cortese's remit from Markus was to make us a mid table Premier league team. Cortese said he couldn't stop there. So yet again you have made yourself look like a bell end Mods please add Bell End Points to the agenda for the next curry session. Granted I may be gone within a week for hitting the maximum allowance but others could be culled now if you agree to backdate. Special consideration for insulting the Liebherrs would be fine by me. 2 BEPs for Richmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 While Richmond did his argument no favours by his OP prose - which was clumsy and palpably angry and petulant - the vituperative backlash fails to notice that there is more than a kernel of truth in what he says. Kat inherited her late father's dream - but it is becoming clear that she does not share that dream or the will to drive it forward. The lack of focus and direction since she took over, and now the imminent fire - sale, all point to the possibility of her balancing the club's financial books prior selling the club after a 'decent interval' has passed after Markus' death. Cannot blame her - why should she persist with something she's not really interested in, doesn't really understand, and, medium to long term, is very high risk financially? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 2 BEPs for Adrian. Judging someone sooner than is fair. These BEPs can be rescinded if indeed proven that KL does not care for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Is this Stalinist Saintweb? Is no discussion, let alone dissent, of The Glorious Owing Family allowed? Get ready to rescind the BEPs in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 The lack of focus and direction since she took over, and now the imminent fire - sale, all point to the possibility of her balancing the club's financial books prior selling the club after a 'decent interval' has passed after Markus' death. RK's words about being here for 'at least' this coming season have hardly filled me with positivity about KL's long-term plans either. Is he in it for the long-term or is this job a quirky addition to his C.V. before resuming his career in Hockey? No ones intentions are clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Have I missed her " we tried very hard to keep him " spiel PLEASE sell the Club .... Your " Project " is nothing like what your Father's was Is this the end of your meltdown poppet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 A bit of transparency would help the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Saint "RICHMOND'S" posting "style" only SERVES to"prove" THAT he "is" HEAD MENTAL. It is well documented (if you can believe the press) that saints offered Pochettino a bumper contract to stay. So yes, they did try hard to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 While Richmond did his argument no favours by his OP prose - which was clumsy and palpably angry and petulant - the vituperative backlash fails to notice that there is more than a kernel of truth in what he says. Kat inherited her late father's dream - but it is becoming clear that she does not share that dream or the will to drive it forward. The lack of focus and direction since she took over, and now the imminent fire - sale, all point to the possibility of her balancing the club's financial books prior selling the club after a 'decent interval' has passed after Markus' death. Cannot blame her - why should she persist with something she's not really interested in, doesn't really understand, and, medium to long term, is very high risk financially? She seems a tad slow in putting the club up for sale if that's her attitude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Actually you disrespectful little **** that is exactly what her Fathers project was. Cortese's remit from Markus was to make us a mid table Premier league team. Cortese said he couldn't stop there. So yet again you have made yourself look like a bell end I would like to see anyone 'plan' for mid table!!! To plan for mid table is to dice with relegation in this league.. Without our manager and best players what do you seriously predict will happen? We are playing with fire.... If we don't push on now we never will... If people are happy without the aspiration to play with the big boys that's up to them... Personally I preferred Cortese's ambition and vision not to say his ruthless management.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Do we REALLY want her to sell? Think of some of the charlatans and crooks involved in club ownership these days - would we really want to risk someone of that ilk owning our club? Better the devil you know and all that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Is this Stalinist Saintweb? Is no discussion, let alone dissent, of The Glorious Owing Family allowed? Get ready to rescind the BEPs in time... Yes. BEPs are managed with an iron fist particularly where the aristocracy is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 While Richmond did his argument no favours by his OP prose - which was clumsy and palpably angry and petulant - the vituperative backlash fails to notice that there is more than a kernel of truth in what he says. Kat inherited her late father's dream - but it is becoming clear that she does not share that dream or the will to drive it forward. The lack of focus and direction since she took over, and now the imminent fire - sale, all point to the possibility of her balancing the club's financial books prior selling the club after a 'decent interval' has passed after Markus' death. Cannot blame her - why should she persist with something she's not really interested in, doesn't really understand, and, medium to long term, is very high risk financially? Similar post from you on a par with Richmond's opener. You labour under the impression that you know more about a deceased man's dreams and plans than his own daughter. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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