adrian lord Posted 29 July, 2014 Not all going sweetly for the defectors: Judas has done his knee and now Shaw feels the wrath of van Gaal: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10996925/Louis-van-Gaal-says-Luke-Shaw-not-fit-enough-to-meet-his-and-Manchester-Uniteds-demands-and-will-train-alone.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plastic Posted 29 July, 2014 Total balls re shaw IMHO, the guy is fit as anything. This is van Gaal stamping his authority after jose's comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericofarabia Posted 29 July, 2014 Ha ha ... looks like Luke has been spending all his extra money down Nando's ..... you fat baaaaarrrrrsted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syd_barrett_saint Posted 29 July, 2014 To be fair, Shaw can occasionally look a little on the porky side (although that could be more muscle than fat), and sometimes he ambles back slowly after his bursting runs forward (maybe that is more due to laziness than fitness though). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ericofarabia Posted 29 July, 2014 (edited) Total balls re shaw IMHO, the guy is fit as anything. This is van Gaal stamping his authority after jose's comments. Not so sure about that ... he was forever tweeting about how tired he was after training / matches last season. Maybe it's all the Three somes are taking their toll on him, or maybe he's bashing the bishop all night thinking about the threesomes he will be getting. Edited 29 July, 2014 by ericofarabia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 July, 2014 He's still young, I thought everybody knew that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plastic Posted 29 July, 2014 Not so sure about that ... he was forever tweeting about how tired he was after training / matches last season. Maybe it's all the Three somes are taking their toll on him, or maybe he's bashing the bishop all night thinking about the threesomes he will be getting. Funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CB Saint Posted 29 July, 2014 Wonder how the United stars are enjoying the new regime. Zaha - you are playing there or not at all. £10 to a bucket of pig**** there will be some tantrums in the offing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adrian lord Posted 29 July, 2014 Wonder how the United stars are enjoying the new regime. Zaha - you are playing there or not at all. £10 to a bucket of pig**** there will be some tantrums in the offing Difference between VG and Moyes is the former isn't in awe of, or scared of big time charlie players.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wurzel Posted 29 July, 2014 To be fair, Shaw can occasionally look a little on the porky side (although that could be more muscle than fat), and sometimes he ambles back slowly after his bursting runs forward (maybe that is more due to laziness than fitness though). Think he is naturally stocky built but re the 2nd point was I the only one asking myself so where's Shaw?" at many of the goals we conceded last season, only to see him on the replay reaching our 18 yard line as the ball went in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simo Posted 30 July, 2014 So that's shaw and Lovren training alone and lallana injured (so far) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ART Posted 30 July, 2014 Van Gaal is putting fear into all the players by what he's done. At the same time he's bringing Shaw back to earth and being forced to face the reality of what he's let himself in for being at 30 +million player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simo Posted 30 July, 2014 (edited) Van Gaal is putting fear into all the players by what he's done. At the same time he's bringing Shaw back to earth and being forced to face the reality of what he's let himself in for being at 30 +million player. Unless shaw seriously let himself go after the world cup Van Gaal is being a knob , with our high tempo game there's no way he's less fit than the others at utd Edited 30 July, 2014 by simo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint_Abroad Posted 30 July, 2014 Van Gaal is putting fear into all the players by what he's done. At the same time he's bringing Shaw back to earth and being forced to face the reality of what he's let himself in for being at 30 +million player. Agreed. I have images of Shaw, with a tear rolling down his cheek, telling Van Gaal, "bbb..but Poch never yelled at us..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BotleySaint Posted 30 July, 2014 Van Gaal has come in and was probably expecting more for his £27 million. But Shaw has probably had his head in the sky thinking he's the best left back in the world for the last few weeks. This be a nice bump down to earth for him. A real manager who doesn't take any bull****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a1ex2001 Posted 30 July, 2014 Van Gaal has come in and was probably expecting more for his £27 million. But Shaw has probably had his head in the sky thinking he's the best left back in the world for the last few weeks. This be a nice bump down to earth for him. A real manager who doesn't take any bull****. A real manager who falls out with his players, fails to get the most out of his teams and often gets fired...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The9 Posted 30 July, 2014 Think he is naturally stocky built but re the 2nd point was I the only one asking myself so where's Shaw?" at many of the goals we conceded last season, only to see him on the replay reaching our 18 yard line as the ball went in. Replace the word "conceded" with "scored" and "Shaw" with "Lambert" and you'll understand how I felt about our quick breaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 30 July, 2014 I like the fact that Man U are being linked with 2 other left backs as well (Daley Blind and Ricardo Rodriguez) both of whom would keep him on the bench and consequently getting fatter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BotleySaint Posted 30 July, 2014 ...both of whom would keep him on the bench and consequently getting fatter. It happens, he could be the next Brolin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mowgli Posted 30 July, 2014 ...and Lovren is forced to train with the U21s as the rest of the Liverpool squad fly off to the USA. He was denied a US visa apparently lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcjwills Posted 30 July, 2014 ...and Lovren is forced to train with the U21s as the rest of the Liverpool squad fly off to the USA. He was denied a US visa apparently lol. Nothing to do with saints fans tipping off US authorities that he is an alleged Crack Cocaine dealer. ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adrian lord Posted 13 September, 2014 Lallana very poor debut, and, typically, subbed after 60-odd mins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Causer Posted 13 September, 2014 At the moment as is stands we are ahead of Man United,Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs. It Won't last but quite satisfying to see us doing better than all the ex players and manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Without a Halo Posted 13 September, 2014 Scousehampton look very poor and have lost at home to villa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
farawaysaint Posted 13 September, 2014 (edited) Quotes from RAWK "Lovren could turn out to be a even worse buy than Andy Carroll, we got robbed for giving 20m for him." "He was taking five touches or so and then spraying the ball forwards and missing the target. If Carra had played those passes, people would be calling them hoofs" He is a good defender so it's not going to happen but I am enjoying his tribulations at the moment. Edited 13 September, 2014 by farawaysaint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saintnicoolas Posted 13 September, 2014 Thoroughly enjoyed watching saints destroy pards team today and our judas monkeys lose to villa, time for a large one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adriansfc Posted 13 September, 2014 Quote from RAWK "Lovren could turn out to be a even worse buy than Andy Carroll, we got robbed for giving 20m for him." He is a good defender so it's not going to happen but I am enjoying his tribulations at the moment. He is good, but I still think a lot of people miss how important a solid central midfield is. Any CB has an easier job with Schneiderlin, Wanyama and Cork in front of them. Allen, Gerrard and Henderson aren't the same sort of players and leave them exposed a lot. I don't think Liverpool will get anywhere near the title. They got near last season as a one off, momentum and no distractions. That run won't happen again, they'll struggle to find their best team, change it up every week and all be moaning very soon. So basically all back to normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Batman Posted 13 September, 2014 He is good, but I still think a lot of people miss how important a solid central midfield is. Any CB has an easier job with Schneiderlin, Wanyama and Cork in front of them. Allen, Gerrard and Henderson aren't the same sort of players and leave them exposed a lot. I don't think Liverpool will get anywhere near the title. They got near last season as a one off, momentum and no distractions. That run won't happen again, they'll struggle to find their best team, change it up every week and all be moaning very soon. So basically all back to normal. it seemed to me that the diamond formation suited them, it got the best out of sterling, sturridge and balotelli (away to spurs anyway) they went to a 4231 today. and it showed (although no sturridge and sterling from the off cant help) and they did not look all that quite how they are going to fit, coutinho, sterling, Cann, henerson, Allen, Lucas, "stevie", Mirkovic, lallana in a diamond midfield, I dont know I think you are right, lots of changes in most games, due to the extra games will not serve them well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangkoksaint Posted 13 September, 2014 Nice to hear Dwight Yorke say that Lallana hadn't yet stepped up to the plate. In fairness to AL he's been injured but his start has been far from inspiring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St Chalet Posted 13 September, 2014 Good to see the Sunderland jinx may be Pochettino's and not ours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turkish Posted 13 September, 2014 http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/13/adam-lallana-slated-by-fans-on-twitter-after-gabriel-agbonlahor-goal-hands-aston-villa-shock-win-over-liverpool-4868162/ Never mind Adam, you're at a club of the level you deserve, bless yah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adriansfc Posted 13 September, 2014 it seemed to me that the diamond formation suited them, it got the best out of sterling, sturridge and balotelli (away to spurs anyway) they went to a 4231 today. and it showed (although no sturridge and sterling from the off cant help) and they did not look all that quite how they are going to fit, coutinho, sterling, Cann, henerson, Allen, Lucas, "stevie", Mirkovic, lallana in a diamond midfield, I dont know I think you are right, lots of changes in most games, due to the extra games will not serve them well I''m not convinced by 2 up front really, can work but does leave you wide open. Suarez and Sturridge swapped well, was rarely 2 up front, but they were still wide open. But yeah, no idea what Liverpool's best team is now. If it's Ballotelli OR Sturridge then great, but doubt he'll do that. Same problem at Man Utd. Think they could do well with Sterling, Lallana and one of Coutinho or Markovic in a 3 behind the striker. As for Man Utd, that'll be interesting. This 352 thing is just a fad, and it won't suit them one bit. Holland were so negative post-spain game. You sign Di Maria, don't mess around, put him left wing and you might have a new Giggs. Herrara and Blind could form a nice central 2, but Mata is too good to leave out IMO. But he will. Mata is a team player, not a big ego, and I imagine he'll be sacrificed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turkish Posted 13 September, 2014 I''m not convinced by 2 up front really, can work but does leave you wide open. Suarez and Sturridge swapped well, was rarely 2 up front, but they were still wide open. But yeah, no idea what Liverpool's best team is now. If it's Ballotelli OR Sturridge then great, but doubt he'll do that. Same problem at Man Utd. Think they could do well with Sterling, Lallana and one of Coutinho or Markovic in a 3 behind the striker. As for Man Utd, that'll be interesting. This 352 thing is just a fad, and it won't suit them one bit. Holland were so negative post-spain game. You sign Di Maria, don't mess around, put him left wing and you might have a new Giggs. Herrara and Blind could form a nice central 2, but Mata is too good to leave out IMO. But he will. Mata is a team player, not a big ego, and I imagine he'll be sacrificed. Load of nonsenses pal. Playing 2 up front doesn't leave you wide open. Man city have often played with two up front, it's the talksport type 'playing two up top leaves you exposed' brigade that invented that sh*te. Playing two strikers means you play with less attacking full backs, two holding midfield players, or even a good old fashion 4-4-2. Absolute myth and something said by people who have heard other people say it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 September, 2014 I see LS is warming the bench, Rojo picked in front of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baird of the land Posted 14 September, 2014 Tadier Obviously inter weren't scared of Taider as they let him play against his parent club. Hopefully Osavldo does well enough so we can cut losses full time on him in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectisSaint Posted 14 September, 2014 Tadier 2 goals and 2 assists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted 14 September, 2014 2 goals and 2 assists Hope they buy him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coldridge Posted 14 September, 2014 Nice to hear Dwight Yorke say that Lallana hadn't yet stepped up to the plate. In fairness to AL he's been injured but his start has been far from inspiring. Remember Lallana is still a 'youngster' apparently.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_emu Posted 14 September, 2014 http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/13/adam-lallana-slated-by-fans-on-twitter-after-gabriel-agbonlahor-goal-hands-aston-villa-shock-win-over-liverpool-4868162/ Never mind Adam, you're at a club of the level you deserve, bless yah One of the twitter quotes... "Adam Lallana is didn't worth money! Rodgers are stupid fool!!!!!".... WTF! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lets B Avenue Posted 14 September, 2014 Poor Luke didn't get on. Never mind there's always Nandos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ohio Saint Posted 14 September, 2014 If Luke didn't have two opposable thumbs, he'd never get a threesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ohio Saint Posted 14 September, 2014 LVG during live interview right now: Shaw is injured, he's not coming back. What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
farawaysaint Posted 14 September, 2014 LVG during live interview right now: Shaw is injured, he's not coming back. What? 30 mill well spent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stud mark of doom Posted 14 September, 2014 Maybe we should all chip in for a full page ad in the Liverpool echo. I'm sure this can be refined but as a starter for ten - a small picture of adz adjusting his hair on the bench and maybe some brief text - "how's it going adz? Love saintsweb xxx" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ART Posted 14 September, 2014 Just read Osvaldo got 2 goals today for Milan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Durman Posted 14 September, 2014 One game does not make Adam poor. It will take time to make him a poor player. Lovren was played right centre back by Rogers yesterday. All his good work for Saints came when he played left centre back. Also let's not forget than Wanyama and Schneiderlin don't play in front of him. I think Van Gaal bought Rojo because he wasn't convinced by Shaw. I think Shaw has been poorly advised to go to Man U. Although he will become a very Rich young man, which isn't the worst thing in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ART Posted 14 September, 2014 Money doesn't always bring young people happiness. Luke is a very sensitive lad who may well succumb to big problems if his football career doesn't work out for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgiesaint Posted 14 September, 2014 Just read Osvaldo got 2 goals today for Milan. Was just going to add that. Started today for Inter against Sassuolo and scored the 4th after 43 minutes & 6th after 73 minutes in a 7-0 win. Interestingly last seasons golden boy Dominico Berardi who starred for Sassuolo (owned by Juventus from memory) got a straight red card on the hour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt6fwLJsEn0 The goals are in the first 6 & half minutes - looks like it was recorded live with the highlights tagged on the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sotonist Posted 14 September, 2014 LVG during live interview right now: Shaw is injured, he's not coming back. What? sounded like "is now coming back" to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bYSXTlFxo4w#t=187 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
