Deano6 Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 http://www.barcablaugranes.com/2015/6/11/8764867/atletico-madrid-signs-with-barcelona-target-center-back Atletico planning for life without the Tobmeister? Why didn't we sign this kid instead of Toby?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 15 June, 2015 Share Posted 15 June, 2015 Why didn't we sign this kid instead of Toby?!? Is this the same guy who signed with Valencia three days ago? http://www.beinsports.tv/news/title/valencia-agree-rodrigo-caio-deal-with-sao-paulo/article/qccuq1h39qe61oacczfr76zom Maybe we can still sign him. Actually, I doubt we could sign him because he would not be eligible for a work permit. He has no caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=128664 West Ham interested apparently. Although much of the article is just....wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=128664 West Ham interested apparently. Although much of the article is just....wrong. They've done well to get that much wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 West Ham article is laughable. It'll be us or a top 4 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=128664 West Ham interested apparently. Although much of the article is just....wrong. Do chumps actaully ever read things back to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 June, 2015 Share Posted 16 June, 2015 Has Toby's loan officially ended yet? We were still covering his international activities for the Wales game so I'm guessing not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/448778/EXCLUSIVE-Chelsea-in-talks-over-swap-deal-for-Atletico-Madrid-star-Toby-Alderweireld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Hmmm. Toby's said his main motivation is to be playing and not back on the bench as with his season in Madrid. I can't see Chelsea dropping Terry or Cahill so it'll be interesting to see how.this pans out. There's been quite a bit about Atletico wanting Luis back so I imagine this would be tempting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Would be surprised if he went to Chelsea to sit behind Cahill, Terry and Zouma. But then a hefty wage will soften that blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Hmmm. Toby's said his main motivation is to be playing and not back on the bench as with his season in Madrid. I can't see Chelsea dropping Terry or Cahill so it'll be interesting to see how.this pans out. There's been quite a bit about Atletico wanting Luis back so I imagine this would be tempting for them. I can easily see cahill being dropped. was losing his mojo for quite a bit of the springtime and there were rumours back then that mourinho was losing confidence in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Hmmm. Toby's said his main motivation is to be playing and not back on the bench as with his season in Madrid. I can't see Chelsea dropping Terry or Cahill so it'll be interesting to see how.this pans out. There's been quite a bit about Atletico wanting Luis back so I imagine this would be tempting for them. Surely they could just buy Luis back if they sold Toby anyway? I'm not too sure this will pan out: 1) its in the Daily Star and 2) as others have said, his main motivation seems to be first team football which he is in no way guaranteed at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Surely they could just buy Luis back if they sold Toby anyway? I'm not too sure this will pan out: 1) its in the Daily Star and 2) as others have said, his main motivation seems to be first team football which he is in no way guaranteed at Chelsea. Theres also rumours of a swap Toby for Luis. Transfer makes zero sense in my eyes, we've just signed Bertrand to a long deal and we now sign another, older, less consistent LB from the same club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Theres also rumours of a swap Toby for Luis. Transfer makes zero sense in my eyes, we've just signed Bertrand to a long deal and we now sign another, older, less consistent LB from the same club. A swap deal would have nothing to do with us, Toby is not our player. Luis would be going back to Atletico in exchange for Toby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Theres also rumours of a swap Toby for Luis. Transfer makes zero sense in my eyes, we've just signed Bertrand to a long deal and we now sign another, older, less consistent LB from the same club. Alderweireld is an A.Madrid player, Luis is a Chelsea player; any swap deal wouldn't involve Southampton other than A.Madrid paying the clause in the loan deal. What does Bertrand have to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Alderweireld is an A.Madrid player, Luis is a Chelsea player; any swap deal wouldn't involve Southampton other than A.Madrid paying the clause in the loan deal. What does Bertrand have to do with it? Did you have to? You could see the post above yours already explained this, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 I had this thread open for a while and only saw Saint_clark's reply once I hit post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 I had this thread open for a while and only saw Saint_clark's reply once I hit post. Please ensure you refresh the page and check recent posts in future as common courtesy to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 http://www.barcablaugranes.com/2015/6/11/8764867/atletico-madrid-signs-with-barcelona-target-center-back Atletico planning for life without the Tobmeister? But they're also selling Miranda to Inter apparently. Fees for that sale are nearly exactly the same as those that the article reports them paying for this Brazilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Alderweireld is an A.Madrid player, Luis is a Chelsea player; any swap deal wouldn't involve Southampton other than A.Madrid paying the clause in the loan deal. What does Bertrand have to do with it? yup, very good point . didnt think it through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 I read that chelsea were interested in toby and would offer luis in return. which would seem unlikely as I can't think saints would be interested in another LB You're kind of missing the major point here. Toby is not our player. Madrid can do whatever they want with him. We just borrowed him for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 You're kind of missing the major point here. Toby is not our player. Madrid can do whatever they want with him. We just borrowed him for a few months. edited having noticed the major elephant in the room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 I like the idea of Chelsea giving us Luis for Toby, just don't tell A.Madrid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 June, 2015 Share Posted 18 June, 2015 Tweet by Rob Beasley (who IIRC has decent contacts at Chelsea) @1RobBeasley: Whatever you hear, whatever you see....Toby Alderweireld is NOT coming to Chelsea!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 From the Telegraph: "La Liga side left in limbo while Jose Mourinho considers other options." "Alderweireld has been told by Atlético that Chelsea are interested in signing him, but the player fears the Spanish club are using the Premier League champions as a way to try to drive his price up." "Tottenham Hotspur and Southampton, where Alderweireld spent last season on loan, are also interested in the 26-year-old but are waiting to see Chelsea’s next move." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 A bit about him in The Times today. Basically, Chelsea are interested, we will take up the option of buying him for about £7m but Atletico will then take up their option to exercise a counter-clause and cancel our agreement by giving us £2m if he moves to another side. Atletico think he's worth upwards of £15m amid strong interest from Tottenham who are willing to offer the likes of Capoue and Soldado as part of the deal. Make of this what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em00jie Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Why is it that all Tottenham's deals seem to include some sort of player swap...they want Schneiderlin we get Townsend, they want Toby AM get Capoue/Soldado. Are they feeling a bit of a financial squeeze with stadium plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiggy Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Why is it that all Tottenham's deals seem to include some sort of player swap...they want Schneiderlin we get Townsend, they want Toby AM get Capoue/Soldado. Are they feeling a bit of a financial squeeze with stadium plans? Or that most of their squad is deemed surplus to requirements so are trying to ship them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Why is it that all Tottenham's deals seem to include some sort of player swap...they want Schneiderlin we get Townsend, they want Toby AM get Capoue/Soldado. Are they feeling a bit of a financial squeeze with stadium plans? I'm not quite sure why Spurs think players, they deem not good enough, would seem like a fair swap for actual quality players. It would be like saints trying to get Chelsea to part with Remy and offering them Mayuka in exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 I'm not quite sure why Spurs think players, they deem not good enough, would seem like a fair swap for actual quality players. It would be like saints trying to get Chelsea to part with Remy and offering them Mayuka in exchange. A 24 year old current Zambian international for a 28 year old player that hasn't played for France in nearly a year? We'd be getting screwed on that deal. :-) I hope we hear about the Toby situation soon one way or another, if we don't sign him it means we can crack on with finding a decent replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 According to the oracle that is Twitter, Toby got married today. Might be a while before this gets resolved if he's off on honeymoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Why is it that all Tottenham's deals seem to include some sort of player swap...they want Schneiderlin we get Townsend, they want Toby AM get Capoue/Soldado. Are they feeling a bit of a financial squeeze with stadium plans? They're still feeling it from their mega-spend a few seasons ago. It turned out that they bought a load of utter dross. They don't have £25m to spend on single players anymore, which is why they're using it as an opportunity to throw some of their unwanted players into deals. And one of the reasons Mitchell was bought in - to try and unearth gems at lower costs. In a way, through all of this, I feel a little sorry for Toby. It seems as if A.Madrid are playing games with him, and trying to use him in their pursuit for other players. He just wants his future sorted out, but they're not making it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 According to the oracle that is Twitter' date=' Toby got married today. Might be a while before this gets resolved if he's off on honeymoon?[/quote'] Indeed he did. He had red and white balloons. Must be a sign [emoji51] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 I'm not quite sure why Spurs think players, they deem not good enough, would seem like a fair swap for actual quality players. It would be like saints trying to get Chelsea to part with Remy and offering them Mayuka in exchange. Complete garbage. Soldado was a massive hit in Spain and is a reasonable bargaining chip. Nothing like Mayuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Complete garbage. Soldado was a massive hit in Spain and is a reasonable bargaining chip. Nothing like Mayuka. Very true. But would Atletico need Soldado based on their current forward options? Capoue wouldn't be much more than squad filler for them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 (edited) Very true. But would Atletico need Soldado based on their current forward options? Capoue wouldn't be much more than squad filler for them either. Depends. Reports suggest that Griezmann and/or Mandzukic are on their way out and they're after a replacement. Edited 19 June, 2015 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Only thing I've been told is that Toby really likes it at Saints, and his missus loves living here. I reckon there's a deal to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Only thing I've been told is that Toby really likes it at Saints, and his missus loves living here. I reckon there's a deal to be done. Told by who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Told by who? Not quite bloke down the pub, but not far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 Only thing I've been told is that Toby really likes it at Saints, and his missus loves living here. I reckon there's a deal to be done. It must really put doubt in the mind of players like Schneiderlin and Clyne if players like Bertrand and Toby want to stay at Southampton. They know they could be pipped at the post for Champions League football at Liverpool and Spurs by Saints...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 June, 2015 Share Posted 19 June, 2015 We should just offer them the £15million and get on with contract negotiations while Chelsea fanny about. FFS, we paid that much for Osvaldo, we KNOW Toby is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Would Toby handing a transfer request to Atletico speed a move along if he wanted to come here? Makes you wonder, player power and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 I have a decent ITK contact, he thought we stood a fair chance of signing Toby when I last spoke to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/13343669._/?ref=mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 It must really put doubt in the mind of players like Schneiderlin and Clyne if players like Bertrand and Toby want to stay at Southampton. They know they could be pipped at the post for Champions League football at Liverpool and Spurs by Saints...... Except Bertrand and Toby (if he stays) aren't here because they think we're getting into the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Spurs. They're here because they can't get regular football at Champions League clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 We should really look to break the bank if necessary. If we get him, we'd only need another 3-4 players to complete our squad Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 A team with Toby, Fonte, Wanyama and Morgan is going to be difficult for anyone to beat. If we sign Toby and keep Morgan, I reckon we could have an even better side next season. No reason why we couldn't finish higher than Spurs or Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 For me Toby would be the signing of the summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 get toby and keeper and then replace anyone else who leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 A team with Toby, Fonte, Wanyama and Morgan is going to be difficult for anyone to beat. If we sign Toby and keep Morgan, I reckon we could have an even better side next season. No reason why we couldn't finish higher than Spurs or Liverpool. I agree, but I don't think either will still be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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