Saint Charlie Posted 20 August, 2015 Share Posted 20 August, 2015 Jonathan De Guzman available and likely going to Sunderland. Good attacking midfielder who would add goals in the Davis role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 August, 2015 Share Posted 20 August, 2015 Jonathan De Guzman available and likely going to Sunderland. Good attacking midfielder who would add goals in the Davis role. I personally don't think we need those sorts of players, we just need to utilise what we have a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 (edited) Perhaps been posted elsewhere, found this quite interesting on @nufc_online. Usual caveats apply (and formatting a bit off). Edited 21 August, 2015 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 (edited) Hahahahah that net for spurs will be killing Daniel Levy, serves him right Edit - I am dumb - Levy will have a massive boner looking at that. Edited 21 August, 2015 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Hahahahah that net for spurs will be killing Daniel Levy, serves him right Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Hahahahah that net for spurs will be killing Daniel Levy, serves him right Surely thats the best way? Have a good team, consistent top 6 finisher, occassionally make the CL and also make a profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 I personally don't think we need those sorts of players, we just need to utilise what we have a lot better What are "those sorts of players"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Hahahahah that net for spurs will be killing Daniel Levy, serves him right You're looking at it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Surely thats the best way? Have a good team, consistent top 6 finisher, occassionally make the CL and also make a profit? and funding big stadium costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 What are "those sorts of players"? Thought it was pretty obvious. Attacking midfielders/wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Perhaps been posted elsewhere, found this quite interesting on @nufc_online. Usual caveats apply (and formatting a bit off). Hhhhmmm interesting. I would say that Spurs figure is slightly skewed by the sale of Bale. In fact only Bale and Modric have been sold for +£10.5m in the past 5 seasons (a few more for about £10m each). They also spent practically nothing in the 11/12 season. http://www.transferleague.co.uk/tottenham-hotspur/english-football-teams/tottenham-hotspur-transfers Seem to buy relatively cheap mostly and then sell on at a higher price. Sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Thought it was pretty obvious. Attacking midfielders/wingers. We don't have any attacking central midfielders apart from Ramirez though, and he obviously has no future at Saints. Haven't really ever replaced Lallana in that respect as Tadic seemingly will only play wide. Wijnaldum would have been ideal for oir CM three judging by his performance against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 We don't have any attacking central midfielders apart from Ramirez though, and he obviously has no future at Saints. Haven't really ever replaced Lallana in that respect as Tadic seemingly will only play wide. Wijnaldum would have been ideal for oir CM three judging by his performance against us. Agree, it's the central position of the 3 behind Pelle which could be looked at. We don't have anyone who is able to drop back and be comfortable in the centre of midfield yet is also comfortable in and around the box. Mane likes coming in more central but he isn't much good at dropping deeper when required as he still tries to take it past 3 players as standard and we know Davis and JWP don't have right instinct and confidence to be an effective no.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Is that not Juanmi? It seems we're going to play Mane in the central position whatever happens which I think is the wrong decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Agree, it's the central position of the 3 behind Pelle which could be looked at. We don't have anyone who is able to drop back and be comfortable in the centre of midfield yet is also comfortable in and around the box. Mane likes coming in more central but he isn't much good at dropping deeper when required as he still tries to take it past 3 players as standard and we know Davis and JWP don't have right instinct and confidence to be an effective no.10. Obviously not the player himself, but someone similar to Shelvey in that respect. Wijnaldum would've been good; struck me last night how there was little drive going forward from midfield. Perhaps Clasie will be that player, but it seems his strengths are making the ball doing the running, rather than him running with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Eh? Doh that's my dumbass comment for the week, will edit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Obviously not the player himself, but someone similar to Shelvey in that respect. Wijnaldum would've been good; struck me last night how there was little drive going forward from midfield. Perhaps Clasie will be that player, but it seems his strengths are making the ball doing the running, rather than him running with the ball. Comments from those who have watched Clasie most suggest that he a deep sitting CM and is rarely seen in and around the box. Juanmi seems to be the type to play off the shoulder as a second striker, not sure he can fulfill the full remit of that role given the formation we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/75329_southampton_enter_the_race_for_real_madrid_midfielder_lucas_silva.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/75329_southampton_enter_the_race_for_real_madrid_midfielder_lucas_silva.html Was also posted on here yesterday as he was linked to us in the Metro which is an awful source really. Probably on par with sambafoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Twitter noise we are signing Vlaar on a 2 year deal. Probably junk but who knows??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 Twitter noise we are signing Vlaar on a 2 year deal. Probably junk but who knows??? no chance. he is injured for a few months isnt he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 21 August, 2015 Share Posted 21 August, 2015 no chance. he is injured for a few months isnt he? Yeah, out until 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 We should bid for Shelvey. Destabilise a rival and get a proper midfield general. What we wouldn't do for Cork in the centre of our midfield now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 We will not sign Shelvey, he's already been discussed but did not pass the clubs character profiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 We will not sign Shelvey, he's already been discussed but did not pass the clubs character profiling. Would genuinely like to know what and how the screening process works And how players like Taider and that other defender chap slipped through the net so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Would genuinely like to know what and how the screening process works And how players like Taider and that other defender chap slipped through the net so to speak I assume we decided to bring that in AFTER we signed Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Personally I think it's a load of crap the character profiling. It goes without saying it can only be done on hearsay. Unfortunately I spent six weeks with Swansea when studying analysis and I can confirm he is an utter cvnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 I assume we decided to bring that in AFTER we signed Osvaldo Oh yeah, him! I try to forget about him haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Personally I think it's a load of crap the character profiling. It goes without saying it can only be done on hearsay. Unfortunately I spent six weeks with Swansea when studying analysis and I can confirm he is an utter cvnt. Part of why I'd like to know how it works... It's not like Saints can ring up and say Hi Jonjo, could you come in for an informal interview ease because we'd like to character profile you! It must be done from a distance so to speak and therefor not very reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 The timing of this (i.e on the eve of a match) does seem to suggest it's come from Spurs end, or another clubs end. Horrific foul play, but nothing we can do about it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 22 August, 2015 Share Posted 22 August, 2015 Part of why I'd like to know how it works... It's not like Saints can ring up and say Hi Jonjo, could you come in for an informal interview ease because we'd like to character profile you! It must be done from a distance so to speak and therefor not very reliable It's got to be done a lot on networking, surely. Clearly, Monk speaks to people in the club (and others in similar positions elsewhere, I'd imagine) and picks up info on character as he's just mentioned, and that's got to be fed up the chain at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 We will not sign Shelvey, he's already been discussed but did not pass the clubs character profiling. No great surprise to be honest. But the profiling amuses me a bit. The prospect of the 'panel' including Les Reed opening a dossier on him, and asking what the profilers have come up with. "Well. his name is Johnjo ffs.." , followed by a pause for thought and then a Katie Hopkins type response of "well I certainly wouldn't want my kids playing with him..". "Next ?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Should be give up on signing beyond the CB? We all know we need it but Koeman said no more right? Well we won't be signing a striker with Jay now back and we seem to be happy to keep our creative midfielders either on the bench or in positions that don't play to their strengths. Koeman so far gets a 5/10. Juanmi looked lively in pre-season and can't get any minutes, Tadic is stuck out on the right where he's ineffective (or on the bench) and meanwhile we have to put up with Steven Davis as a number 10 every week. Pretty painful to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Should be give up on signing beyond the CB? We all know we need it but Koeman said no more right? He might of course re-evaluate that after today, Thursday, and of course Everton at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Well we won't be signing a striker with Jay now back and we seem to be happy to keep our creative midfielders either on the bench or in positions that don't play to their strengths. Koeman so far gets a 5/10. Juanmi looked lively in pre-season and can't get any minutes, Tadic is stuck out on the right where he's ineffective (or on the bench) and meanwhile we have to put up with Steven Davis as a number 10 every week. Pretty painful to watch Who do you regard as our creative midfielders ? Juanmi I regard as a striker, Davis is pretty ineffective, and that leaves Tadic, who despite his reputation as king of assists seems to be living off the reputation in Holland and the first few months of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Who do you regard as our creative midfielders ? Juanmi I regard as a striker, Davis is pretty ineffective, and that leaves Tadic, who despite his reputation as king of assists seems to be living off the reputation in Holland and the first few months of last season. remember when we all said he was an upgrade on lallana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 remember when we all said he was an upgrade on lallana Perhaps he was... until the end of October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 remember when we all said he was an upgrade on lallana He's got the talent to be significantly better than him. But it would help him to play in his actual position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 He's got the talent to be significantly better than him. But it would help him to play in his actual position He simply is not cut out for the Prem. A show pony is a polite way of putting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 He simply is not cut out for the Prem. A show pony is a polite way of putting it. I disagree and I think he showed that in the first few months of last season (when played on the left) he was incredible. He then got moved to the right once Mane came into the side and didn't look the same player (coupled with his injury problem). He needs to either play on the left or, ideally, as a number 10 with 2 proper defensive players behind him (which we now have in Wanyama and Romeu). As long as we play Davis/JWP as an attacking midfielder we will struggle to create chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 He simply is not cut out for the Prem. A show pony is a polite way of putting it. a show pony who scored the winner at Old Trafford, scored at The Emirates, set up a goal at Anfield, provided four assists against Sunderland, provided an assist for one of the only two goals we have scored in the Premier League this season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 When was the last time Tadic had a shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 a show pony who scored the winner at Old Trafford, scored at The Emirates, set up a goal at Anfield, provided four assists against Sunderland, provided an assist for one of the only two goals we have scored in the Premier League this season..... Desperate stats. He's lightweight, flatters to deceive and can't actually even get into our side at the moment. Set up a goal at Anfield? Wow big deal! Four assists at home to Sunderland? Mate I'm 60 and I could have done that with my eyes shut. Sunderland were so ****e. Tell me this, if he is so good why isn't he in the team? Answer is even Koeman knows he is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Desperate stats. He's lightweight, flatters to deceive and can't actually even get into our side at the moment. Set up a goal at Anfield? Wow big deal! Four assists at home to Sunderland? Mate I'm 60 and I could have done that with my eyes shut. Sunderland were so ****e. Tell me this, if he is so good why isn't he in the team? Answer is even Koeman knows he is garbage. I, for one, am looking forward to Tadic's entry in the next edition of All The Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Desperate stats. He's lightweight, flatters to deceive and can't actually even get into our side at the moment. Set up a goal at Anfield? Wow big deal! Four assists at home to Sunderland? Mate I'm 60 and I could have done that with my eyes shut. Sunderland were so ****e. Tell me this, if he is so good why isn't he in the team? Answer is even Koeman knows he is garbage. What an utterly stupid way of viewing a player. By your logic, any player not in our first XI is s**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 I don't know how anyone can profess to be a "historian" of the game and be so ignorant. I suppose you don't need much in the way of comprehension to make glorified scrap books though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Desperate stats. He's lightweight, flatters to deceive and can't actually even get into our side at the moment. Set up a goal at Anfield? Wow big deal! Four assists at home to Sunderland? Mate I'm 60 and I could have done that with my eyes shut. Sunderland were so ****e. Tell me this, if he is so good why isn't he in the team? Answer is even Koeman knows he is garbage. Rather tadic than Shane long. Long is useless was terrible today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 (edited) Desperate stats. He's lightweight, flatters to deceive and can't actually even get into our side at the moment. Set up a goal at Anfield? Wow big deal! Four assists at home to Sunderland? Mate I'm 60 and I could have done that with my eyes shut. Sunderland were so ****e. Tell me this, if he is so good why isn't he in the team? Answer is even Koeman knows he is garbage. To be honest if you think he is that bad how the hell did you cope with genuine trash like Lee Todd, Paul Moody, Ollie Lancashire and Van Damme over the years ? Edited 23 August, 2015 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Andros Townsend....a player being wasted at spurs, and a player constantly being linked with us, i think roko could get the best out of him, and on form he is very good. think he has to be worth look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 August, 2015 Share Posted 23 August, 2015 Andros Townsend....a player being wasted at spurs, and a player constantly being linked with us, i think roko could get the best out of him, and on form he is very good. think he has to be worth look? I never understood why so many people are against this idea. Typical winger, on his day is excellent, on a bad day he's awful.....but will always cause defenders problems and he's got pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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