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Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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56 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

Sales of 🇦🇲 flags in Southampton going to increase soon…✅ 

Not doubting you… but he doesn’t sound like someone who is about to imminently leave, plus he played tonight by sounds of it?

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Turkish

Turkish

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3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Reminds me of the Gakpo situation, he stayed with PSV thereafter.

Not long til My G is looking fresh is Saints garms fam

SNSUN

SNSUN

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2 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Not doubting you… but he doesn’t sound like someone who is about to leave, plus he played tonight by sounds of it?

Might as well use your assets while you still have them. 

sockeye

sockeye

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5 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

No one on this forum had probably heard of Spertsyan until maybe two weeks ago. 😂

Is that meant to be a bad thing? A scouting team at this level needs to unearth gems. It gets a bit boring seeing the same names being banded about.

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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Interesting that Spertsyan has been managed by Daniel Farke before. Which may or may not be an advantage. He might think he's a right twat.

Quite a lot of noise now so let's hope this gets over the line. It’s pretty clear we can afford him fees and wages.

So what we are up against is him deciding to leave this summer or wait at his current club (like Gakpo did) or if a higher league club comes in last minute then we can't beat that. 

 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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Fingers crossed anyway. I'm booked in at the Tattooist tomorrow afternoon. Red blue yellow flag, right?

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Verbal

Verbal

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53 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Fingers crossed anyway. I'm booked in at the Tattooist tomorrow afternoon. Red blue yellow flag, right?

More orange, black and white, but it only really works if you do it Yakuza style. 

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Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

No one on this forum had probably heard of Spertsyan until maybe two weeks ago. 😂

A month ago. Saint_lambden posted on the 11th July when it was first revealed by Armenian football that we'd made a bid.

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CSA96

CSA96

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2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Reminds me of the Gakpo situation, he stayed with PSV thereafter.

Yeah, when I saw this latest run of updates I was feeling major Gakpo vibes from it

chiknsmack

chiknsmack

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3 hours ago, gio1saints said:

       Given Will’s current preference for 3 CB’s I’ve been trying to assess how Spertsyan fits into that kind of team - and where the rest go ( assuming MF stays but Tyler leaves).  Does behind a little and large front two look like the position for Spertsyan?               
 

                      Gavin.

      THB.       Stephens.  Quarshie 

                   Flynn.     Charles

Mateus.                                    Manning

                      Spertsyan(#10) 

                Armstrong. Downs.  

                         Bazunu

      Edwards       THB          Quarshie 

             Downes         Charles

  Dibling         Fernandes        Spertsyan

              Downs          Archer

 

That's a perfectly cromulent Premier League midfield with Robinson, Armstrong, and Smallbone as depth. Downs/Archer/Stewart building confidence in the Championship and handling the step up to the PL next season. Three young CBs also improving with experience. Ramsdale back from loan. Maybe three or four £30m new recruits. That's a side that wins a dozen games in the Prem rather than picking up a dozen points.

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Hamilton Saint

Hamilton Saint

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1 hour ago, chiknsmack said:

     ...

             Downes         Charles

  Dibling         Fernandes        Spertsyan

              Downs          Archer

 

That's a perfectly cromulent Premier League midfield with Robinson, Armstrong, and Smallbone as depth. Downs/Archer/Stewart building confidence in the Championship and handling the step up to the PL next season. Three young CBs also improving with experience. Ramsdale back from loan. Maybe three or four £30m new recruits. That's a side that wins a dozen games in the Prem rather than picking up a dozen points.

Well, now, that's a new word for me. But research reveals this: " ... generally it is used to refer to something that isn't legit, but is being presented as legit." So, to use a cliche used here a lot (which I thought I would never stoop to using!), how very Saintsy!

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chiknsmack

chiknsmack

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57 minutes ago, Hamilton Saint said:

Well, now, that's a new word for me. But research reveals this: " ... generally it is used to refer to something that isn't legit, but is being presented as legit." So, to use a cliche used here a lot (which I thought I would never stoop to using!), how very Saintsy!

 

TheAlehouseBrawlers

TheAlehouseBrawlers

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3 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said:

ES will join the long list of players ‘that might have been’. SR will then trot out the well trodden ‘we tried’ line. Nothing to see here……

It may very well turn out that the player and his agent are just using the SFC link to leverage a better deal at a higher level club, ala Gakpo. Annoying but understandable really, and little SR can do about that situation. 

We're clearly after him, reports suggest Will Still is an admirer, and Saint-lambden appears pretty reliable with his information.

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Barsiem

Barsiem

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45 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

It may very well turn out that the player and his agent are just using the SFC link to leverage a better deal at a higher level club, ala Gakpo. Annoying but understandable really, and little SR can do about that situation. 

We're clearly after him, reports suggest Will Still is an admirer, and Saint-lambden appears pretty reliable with his information.

Unfortunately, that's how it reads to me as well.  Doesn't sound like he's desperate to get it done, so probably stalling in the hope of a PL club coming in for him

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macca155

macca155

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Pretty obvious now why Saints are pushing the Dibling deal. That brings in cash which they can use as serious muscle in the the Championship. 

Going after a player of Spertsyan's quality, with a rivals key player as a backup is encouraging.

If it all ends up as bollocks I shall be ..... irritated.

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Daft Kerplunk

Daft Kerplunk

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23 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

These people are paid well to give informed opinions

The state of this….

 

also needs to learn how transfers work and that in 2025, the manager isn't the one determining fees or transfer policy isolation. Then think about how relegation and points total have no impact on transfer fees. Thick. As. Mince.   

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Chez

Chez

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1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

We seem to be linked to young Scottish players quite often. I suspect we are not alone there. Have we brought any of them to the club MLG over the last five years or so?

I guess there are lots of reasons why moves don't materialise.

Colinjb

Colinjb

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1 hour ago, macca155 said:

Pretty obvious now why Saints are pushing the Dibling deal. That brings in cash which they can use as serious muscle in the the Championship. 

Going after a player of Spertsyan's quality, with a rivals key player as a backup is encouraging.

If it all ends up as bollocks I shall be ..... irritated.

If it all ends up as bollocks that would hopefully imply one or both of Dibling and Fernandes would still be here.

Saint NL

Saint NL

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Wrexham splashing the cash.

Another player leaving Ipswich, interesting to see if they have someone lined up as a replacement.

 

Edit: just saw he only has a year left on his contract, that's a high price 😱

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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10 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

I don’t think we need the money… its just accommodating them all as well as TD and MF is hard to manage

I also think we’ll shift another of our forwards if possible 

I assume we'd like rid of Brereton Diaz if we can find any takers. I can't see us losing Archer or Stewart certainly not until we see how they fit in with new creative players providing them with more chances. I'd love to see how Archer gets on with a proper run of games and getting good service from the wings or from a creative midfielder. 

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trousers

trousers

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6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I assume we'd like rid of Brereton Diaz if we can find any takers. I can't see us losing Archer or Stewart certainly not until we see how they fit in with new creative players providing them with more chances. I'd love to see how Archer gets on with a proper run of games and getting good service from the wings or from a creative midfielder. 

I'm yet to be convinced by Archer.... on paper, he's a good player at this level, but he just seems to be anonymous in games a lot of the time.... not sure if that's purely down to lack of service or if he's not "putting himself about" enough...? A player like Ings, for example, if he wasn't getting any service would say "f*** that" and go hunting for the ball himself, whereas Archer seems content to wait for things to happen rather than make things happen. Just an observation although, admittedly, I've not studied him avidly (so every chance I'm talking nonsense, for a change....)

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Colinjb

Colinjb

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23 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

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Wrexham splashing the cash.

Another player leaving Ipswich, interesting to see if they have someone lined up as a replacement.

 

Edit: just saw he only has a year left on his contract, that's a high price 😱

Perhaps Wrexham tax is becoming a thing.

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saintant

saintant

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10 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm yet to be convinced by Archer.... on paper, he's a good player at this level, but he just seems to be anonymous in games a lot of the time.... not sure if that's purely down to lack of service or if he's not "putting himself about" enough...? A player like Ings, for example, if he wasn't getting any service would say "f*** that" and go hunting for the ball himself, whereas Archer seems content to wait for things to happen rather than make things happen. Just an observation although, admittedly, I've not studied him avidly (so every chance I'm talking nonsense, for a change....)

Tend to agree. He just seems to disappear and you forget he's playing half the time. The frustrating thing is that he has the tools to be a decent player but it rarely seems to happen when he is selected. I keep expecting him to suddenly burst into life and show what he can do but I'm starting to think it's time to move him on.

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Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

Tend to agree. He just seems to disappear and you forget he's playing half the time. The frustrating thing is that he has the tools to be a decent player but it rarely seems to happen when he is selected. I keep expecting him to suddenly burst into life and show what he can do but I'm starting to think it's time to move him on.

He’s a pure poacher, first and foremost

We’ve never really played him as such

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saintant

saintant

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Just now, Smirking_Saint said:

He’s a pure poacher, first and foremost

We’ve never really played him as such

Lineker was what I would call a poacher - in the right place at the right time. Archer always seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time 🙂 Maybe I'm missing something but he's generally been a massive disappointment for us.

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Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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3 minutes ago, saintant said:

Lineker was what I would call a poacher - in the right place at the right time. Archer always seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time 🙂 Maybe I'm missing something but he's generally been a massive disappointment for us.

Lineker was played in a position that played to his strengths 

We don’t with Archer

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saintant

saintant

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Just now, Smirking_Saint said:

Lineker was played in a position that played to his strengths 

We don’t with Archer

Where should we play him?

lambtiss

lambtiss

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2 minutes ago, saintant said:

Where should we play him?

I've always thought his skills would best be deployed if we played him alongside a target man (Downs/Stewart) with a creative number 10 behind him (Spertsyan?) who could pick up his runs and slide the ball to him for him to run onto behind the centre halves.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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31 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm yet to be convinced by Archer.... on paper, he's a good player at this level, but he just seems to be anonymous in games a lot of the time.... not sure if that's purely down to lack of service or if he's not "putting himself about" enough...? A player like Ings, for example, if he wasn't getting any service would say "f*** that" and go hunting for the ball himself, whereas Archer seems content to wait for things to happen rather than make things happen. Just an observation although, admittedly, I've not studied him avidly (so every chance I'm talking nonsense, for a change....)

How many games has he played for us at this level? More importantly how many games has he played with the correct service? I accept he's not as good as Ings was but he's a different type of player. I'd like him to be given a chance in his correct position with the proper service. 

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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30 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm yet to be convinced by Archer.... on paper, he's a good player at this level, but he just seems to be anonymous in games a lot of the time.... not sure if that's purely down to lack of service or if he's not "putting himself about" enough...? A player like Ings, for example, if he wasn't getting any service would say "f*** that" and go hunting for the ball himself, whereas Archer seems content to wait for things to happen rather than make things happen. Just an observation although, admittedly, I've not studied him avidly (so every chance I'm talking nonsense, for a change....)

I don't think we've ever used him in the right way, the closest we've come to doing so was against Northampton as he was playing off of a 'big man' - but I still think he needs to be 'closer' to the striker, and not hugging the touchline. He was at his best when he played up close with Akpom at Middlesborough, and fed off of his strength and knocks ons. His movement in and around Akpom also opened the space for Akpom to score stacks of goals.

In the right setup, I believe he's useful - but we just haven't fully played him in that environment yet. I think he's a typically 'buzzy' forward who makes good runs in and around, but playing up front on his own or out wide is never his game. He's also not helped by the lack of quality wide players to support him, all of which I hope we'll sort in the next few weeks.

I still see a place for Archer here, but we need to help him. He's not perfect and his touch isn't amazing, but he can still be an asset as he's proven at this level.

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Dman

Dman

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1 hour ago, trousers said:

I'm yet to be convinced by Archer.... on paper, he's a good player at this level, but he just seems to be anonymous in games a lot of the time.... not sure if that's purely down to lack of service or if he's not "putting himself about" enough...? A player like Ings, for example, if he wasn't getting any service would say "f*** that" and go hunting for the ball himself, whereas Archer seems content to wait for things to happen rather than make things happen. Just an observation although, admittedly, I've not studied him avidly (so every chance I'm talking nonsense, for a change....)

If we can find a system that plays to his strengths, I reckon he'd be the best striker in the leauge.  The problem is, we need to find a system to suit him, rather than he suiting us. 

That being said, Still managed to get a tune out of Balogun, who has a similar profile. 

Personally, I think its the creativity behind him that is lacking - Archer is never going to be a player to play with his back to goal. We need someone who can get inbetween the lines and dictate the play. This russian fella could be the missing link. 

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John B

John B

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Do not feel very confident regarding the coming season as like previous windows have not recrited a decent CF 

Our creative future seems to be in the hands of a teenager who is bound to turn into a genius  but does not want to sign a Saints contract  and  could not get in to one of the worst PL teams ever and a relatively even to Chez unknown Armenian who plays in Russia and wants a decent pay day anywhere but not necessarily Southampton

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