DT Posted Wednesday at 13:48 Posted Wednesday at 13:48 1 minute ago, Dusic said: I reckon we will end up compromising with Everton for Dibling. Clear after only loaning Ramsdale that we have banked on cash for either or both of Dibling and Fernandes. I think given Everton's outlay on Grealish's wages it may be more likely that Dibling goes to Palace as an Eze replacement 1
ErwinK1961 Posted Wednesday at 13:49 Posted Wednesday at 13:49 6 minutes ago, Appy said: Haha I wasn’t far off with my £30,000,001 guess. 7 17
Toussaint Posted Wednesday at 13:52 Posted Wednesday at 13:52 5 minutes ago, Dusic said: I reckon we will end up compromising with Everton for Dibling. Clear after only loaning Ramsdale that we have banked on cash for either or both of Dibling and Fernandes. Do you think there is still an offer on the table? I’m not so sure that ship hasn’t sailed.
S-Clarke Posted Wednesday at 14:01 Posted Wednesday at 14:01 8 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Do you think there is still an offer on the table? I’m not so sure that ship hasn’t sailed. Didn't we send them a 'counter offer', which if they agree to will be immediately accepted? I'm sure that's still on the table in their dugouts. 1
qwertyell Posted Wednesday at 14:23 Posted Wednesday at 14:23 1 hour ago, Saint NL said: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25403497.west-ham-reportedly-make-improved-offer-southamptons-fernandes/ Not sure if this was posted already, but the Echo are reporting that Wham are coming back with an increased offer for Fernandes. Hopefully he'll wake us up before he go goes. 1 8
saintant Posted Wednesday at 14:24 Posted Wednesday at 14:24 Maybe not realistic but wouldn't it be brilliant to keep Dibling and Fernandes and build a team around them. Fernandes is already superb and Dibling can potentially be a superstar. Keep them both and get them on the ball as much as possible. 7
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted Wednesday at 14:42 Posted Wednesday at 14:42 19 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Hopefully he'll wake us up before he go goes. that article just sounds like careless whispers to me
Chez Posted Wednesday at 14:43 Posted Wednesday at 14:43 10 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Of course they are going to come back in for him. You don't bid £37m and call it a day. I have little doubt they will end up paying the £45m+£5m. He's mustard and Everton know it. Everyone know's it. But not everyone is ideally placed to buy a potential star at the price we want. 1
Chez Posted Wednesday at 14:45 Posted Wednesday at 14:45 42 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Didn't we send them a 'counter offer', which if they agree to will be immediately accepted? I'm sure that's still on the table in their dugouts. the counter offer story sounded bogus to me.
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 14:47 Posted Wednesday at 14:47 22 minutes ago, saintant said: Maybe not realistic but wouldn't it be brilliant to keep Dibling and Fernandes and build a team around them. Fernandes is already superb and Dibling can potentially be a superstar. Keep them both and get them on the ball as much as possible. If I'm honest I'd rather sell Dibling and bring in the fresh new players that we need. Selling Dibling and bringing in a new 10, rb on loan and top winger woukd improve our chances of promotion a lot. 5
SuperSAINT Posted Wednesday at 14:47 Posted Wednesday at 14:47 1 minute ago, Chez said: the counter offer story sounded bogus to me. Came from Germany - which I thought was odd - but maybe that isn’t so odd.
bugenhagen Posted Wednesday at 14:53 Posted Wednesday at 14:53 21 minutes ago, saintant said: Maybe not realistic but wouldn't it be brilliant to keep Dibling and Fernandes and build a team around them. Fernandes is already superb and Dibling can potentially be a superstar. Keep them both and get them on the ball as much as possible. I agree. One of the most satisfying things watching Saints, after winning, is watching talented players evolve and grow (for us). Sadly, as you start off with, not much of a chance. I am pretty convinced both will leave at the very end of the window. There will be noise every day untill the last few days of August, and then the real bids come that meets our vauluation, just before the window SLAMS shut, and leaves us scrambling, gambling and overpaying for their replacements... 1
saintant Posted Wednesday at 14:57 Posted Wednesday at 14:57 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: If I'm honest I'd rather sell Dibling and bring in the fresh new players that we need. Selling Dibling and bringing in a new 10, rb on loan and top winger woukd improve our chances of promotion a lot. This has been our problem - we always sell our best players. If we sell Dibling the replacements will not be of his standard. It's a sure way to stagnate or take backward steps so the team never improves. I'm not for a minute saying it'll be easy to hold on to our stars but if we always sell them how do we improve and build a side that can stand a chance of surviving in the Premier league? 4
gio1saints Posted Wednesday at 14:58 Posted Wednesday at 14:58 1 hour ago, DT said: I think given Everton's outlay on Grealish's wages it may be more likely that Dibling goes to Palace as an Eze replacement Given it’s a £60m or so contract for EZe do you think they’d go nearer £50m than Everton on Tyler? I think no. But at the least it gives Everton some competition and a bit of a gee up. Palace could try to just give us £35m and throw in Rak saki on top in exchange for Tyler - theoretically that’s about £45m and if we get a good sell on that might be doable?
John B Posted Wednesday at 15:01 Posted Wednesday at 15:01 1 minute ago, gio1saints said: Given it’s a £60m or so contract for EZe do you think they’d go nearer £50m than Everton on Tyler? I think no. But at the least it gives Everton some competition and a bit of a gee up. Palace could try to just give us £35m and throw in Rak saki on top in exchange for Tyler - theoretically that’s about £45m and if we get a good sell on that might be doable? What makes you think Dibling can replace Eze immediately and perform well in the PL 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 15:02 Posted Wednesday at 15:02 4 minutes ago, saintant said: This has been our problem - we always sell our best players. If we sell Dibling the replacements will not be of his standard. It's a sure way to stagnate or take backward steps so the team never improves. I'm not for a minute saying it'll be easy to hold on to our stars but if we always sell them how do we improve and build a side that can stand a chance of surviving in the Premier league? Every team apart from about 5 have to sell their best players. Our problem is mostly we have too many misses in the transfer market and we didn't bring in sufficient quality last season and tried to rely on players already here. 2
Farmer Saint Posted Wednesday at 15:31 Posted Wednesday at 15:31 48 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: that article just sounds like careless whispers to me I think Dibling just wants him Freedom. He's been poor since Last Christmas anyway. 4
Farmer Saint Posted Wednesday at 15:32 Posted Wednesday at 15:32 44 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: If I'm honest I'd rather sell Dibling and bring in the fresh new players that we need. Selling Dibling and bringing in a new 10, rb on loan and top winger woukd improve our chances of promotion a lot. We don't want loans, and we still need to shift Edozie and Aribo (and ABK!).
Whitey Grandad Posted Wednesday at 15:33 Posted Wednesday at 15:33 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Incredible 2nd bid 😂 Not even keeping pace with inflation. 3 5
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 15:34 Posted Wednesday at 15:34 1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said: We don't want loans, and we still need to shift Edozie and Aribo (and ABK!). It doesn't matter what we want it makes financial sense to get one or two loans in. 1
Farmer Saint Posted Wednesday at 15:38 Posted Wednesday at 15:38 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: It doesn't matter what we want it makes financial sense to get one or two loans in. Sorry, I'm not talking the Royal "We", I'm talking the club. They don't want to be in the same position we were last time we were promoted, being taken to the cleaners to stand still. We want to purchase players to grow with the club.
madge Posted Wednesday at 15:39 Posted Wednesday at 15:39 There’s nothing I’ve really seen that suggests that dibling will Be a huge success in the premier league… I think anyone paying over 40m is taking a huge risk. 7
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 15:45 Posted Wednesday at 15:45 6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Sorry, I'm not talking the Royal "We", I'm talking the club. They don't want to be in the same position we were last time we were promoted, being taken to the cleaners to stand still. We want to purchase players to grow with the club. The likes of brooks were really decent last time and we never looked to sign him. I agree we shouldn't be reliant on too many loans but there is a place for one or two is appropriate. 6
Fabrice29 Posted Wednesday at 15:55 Posted Wednesday at 15:55 14 minutes ago, madge said: There’s nothing I’ve really seen that suggests that dibling will Be a huge success in the premier league… I think anyone paying over 40m is taking a huge risk. There wasn’t many more productive teenagers in the PL last season. That’ll be why might think he’s worth the risk. And the more important question is why we would sell someone who could be very useful in a promotion campaign for less than 40m.
AlexLaw76 Posted Wednesday at 15:58 Posted Wednesday at 15:58 (edited) 18 minutes ago, madge said: There’s nothing I’ve really seen that suggests that dibling will Be a huge success in the premier league… I think anyone paying over 40m is taking a huge risk. I suspect that the price we let Dibling go for will be the lowest fee associated with him over the 8 years or so, unless he goes on a free at some point Edited Wednesday at 15:58 by AlexLaw76 2
tdmickey3 Posted Wednesday at 15:59 Posted Wednesday at 15:59 59 minutes ago, saintant said: This has been our problem - we always sell our best players. If we sell Dibling the replacements will not be of his standard. It's a sure way to stagnate or take backward steps so the team never improves. I'm not for a minute saying it'll be easy to hold on to our stars but if we always sell them how do we improve and build a side that can stand a chance of surviving in the Premier league? Don’t fret mate about that mate, if/ when we get back to PL we will be buying for the championship . 1
Toadhall Saint Posted Wednesday at 16:02 Posted Wednesday at 16:02 59 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Every team apart from about 5 have to sell their best players. Our problem is mostly we have too many misses in the transfer market and we didn't bring in sufficient quality last season and tried to rely on players already here. Exactly this. 1
saintant Posted Wednesday at 16:17 Posted Wednesday at 16:17 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Every team apart from about 5 have to sell their best players. Our problem is mostly we have too many misses in the transfer market and we didn't bring in sufficient quality last season and tried to rely on players already here. But it isn't impossible for us to keep both Dibling and Fernandes for at least this season. I get that Dibling will need to be persuaded to sign a new contract but that's not out of the question if we don't get a decent offer for him. With a couple of shrewd loans we could have a really good side that will stand a great chance of promotion. The club need to show some ambition and not be content to just buy and sell to make a profit. Those are the choices - carry on bumbling along as we are or take a few risks and try to re-establish ourselves in the Premier league. If Bournemouth can do it there is no reason we can't. Poor decision making and lack of ambition has got us where we are and it's about time something changed for the better. 1
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 16:31 Posted Wednesday at 16:31 45 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: The likes of brooks were really decent last time and we never looked to sign him. I agree we shouldn't be reliant on too many loans but there is a place for one or two is appropriate. Of course there is, most successful championship teams have a couple of top loans 5
redkeith Posted Wednesday at 17:21 Posted Wednesday at 17:21 I think with the loans, the problem can be the obligation to buy. I am sure that a lot of centre backs went for less than the 20 million we paid for THB that summer, eg the Spanish lad at Bournemouth. There should be loads and loads of Chelsea players available on loan unless they want 30 unregistered players hanging out at Cobham. Maybe we could get Sterling and that Ukranian lad on loan
BARCELONASAINT Posted Wednesday at 17:25 Posted Wednesday at 17:25 cannot wait for the transfer window to close, it gets more and more tedious every season. Sky News with their completely over the top reporting and players like Newcastles Isac and Brentfords Wissa behaving like complete twats just turn off the average football fan. I'm sure i'm not the only one disgusted by reporting of the Isak situation by Sky Sports who absolutely love the soap opera being played out and are themselves gently poking the bear by rolling out all these ex professionals with their take on the situation. I know no club can afford to do it but i would absolutely love Newcastle to stay strong and not sell Isak and let him rot. I bet every football club apart from Liverpool is hoping the same. 8
Ted Bates Statue Posted Wednesday at 17:29 Posted Wednesday at 17:29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Football Special said: Of course there is, most successful championship teams have a couple of top loans Jos Hooiveld and Steve De Ridder Iago Falque in 2012 👍 Edited Wednesday at 18:02 by Ted Bates Statue
SWLondon Saint Posted Wednesday at 17:39 Posted Wednesday at 17:39 11 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: cannot wait for the transfer window to close, it gets more and more tedious every season. Sky News with their completely over the top reporting and players like Newcastles Isac and Brentfords Wissa behaving like complete twats just turn off the average football fan. Agree on it being bloody annoying but not sure I feel much sympathy for Sportswashing United in any case! If they and the entitled Scousers could both lose that would be perfect but not sure how... 1
Appy Posted Wednesday at 17:53 Posted Wednesday at 17:53 23 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: Hooiveld and De Ridder in 2012 👍 De Ridder wasn’t on loan was he?
Matthew Le God Posted Wednesday at 17:59 Posted Wednesday at 17:59 5 minutes ago, Appy said: De Ridder wasn’t on loan was he? Nope
Ted Bates Statue Posted Wednesday at 18:03 Posted Wednesday at 18:03 7 minutes ago, Appy said: De Ridder wasn’t on loan was he? Having checked, you are absolutely right, but I only remember him contributing to our promotion season. Corrected it now 😅
ErwinK1961 Posted Wednesday at 18:10 Posted Wednesday at 18:10 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Appy said: Now we’re talking… Edited Wednesday at 18:10 by ErwinK1961 1
Appy Posted Wednesday at 18:11 Posted Wednesday at 18:11 Pretty sure we wanted him when he left Plymouth but we ended up with Brooks on loan 1
ErwinK1961 Posted Wednesday at 18:12 Posted Wednesday at 18:12 Just now, Appy said: Pretty sure we wanted him when he left Plymouth but we ended up with Brooks on loan Is he a Rudoni alternative do we think, or Spertsyan?
goodymatt Posted Wednesday at 18:12 Posted Wednesday at 18:12 Just now, Appy said: Pretty sure we wanted him when he left Plymouth but we ended up with Brooks on loan Yes I remember us being linked at the time. He’d performed very well against us for Plymouth. 1
Convict Colony Posted Wednesday at 18:15 Posted Wednesday at 18:15 (edited) I guess different positions Edited Wednesday at 18:16 by Convict Colony 3
whelk Posted Wednesday at 18:15 Posted Wednesday at 18:15 I’d pay good money to go into an induced coma for the next 11 days and come round when it is all over 7
ally_uk Posted Wednesday at 18:16 Posted Wednesday at 18:16 41 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: cannot wait for the transfer window to close, it gets more and more tedious every season. Sky News with their completely over the top reporting and players like Newcastles Isac and Brentfords Wissa behaving like complete twats just turn off the average football fan. I'm sure i'm not the only one disgusted by reporting of the Isak situation by Sky Sports who absolutely love the soap opera being played out and are themselves gently poking the bear by rolling out all these ex professionals with their take on the situation. I know no club can afford to do it but i would absolutely love Newcastle to stay strong and not sell Isak and let him rot. I bet every football club apart from Liverpool is hoping the same. The Premier league is a absolute 🎪 The usual suspects of commentators wanking over the bigger clubs. 🍆 💧 " Oh isn't it amazing Gary, How City are dominating Luton " Well no shit considering they have spent more on one player, then the whole city of Luton is worth 🤣 It's all rigged to keep the big boys up the top 1
AlexLaw76 Posted Wednesday at 18:22 Posted Wednesday at 18:22 16 minutes ago, Appy said: He is very good. 1
Costa del Solent Posted Wednesday at 18:27 Posted Wednesday at 18:27 20 minutes ago, Appy said: ‘I want that one’ 2
Harry_SFC Posted Wednesday at 18:31 Posted Wednesday at 18:31 19 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Is he a Rudoni alternative do we think, or Spertsyan? Spertsyan I'd imagine
Smirking_Saint Posted Wednesday at 18:32 Posted Wednesday at 18:32 Id imagine Azaz is the Rudoni alternative But yeah… excited for that one 1
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